light up a conventional cigarette. These devices were first patented in 2003, and they've been
available for sale in the US since 2007. Manufacturers of these products advertise them as safe,
safer than traditional forms of smoking, as a way to actually quit smoking is their pitch.
Right now, the jury is still out on the long-term health effects from e-cigarettes.
Recent studies though have shown a link between the use of e-cigarettes in a very serious
irreversible lung disease known as popcorn lung. The lung disease is the result of e-cigarettes
being flavored with a chemical that can cause scarring of the air sacs in the lungs that
result in thickening and narrowing of the airways. Symptoms of popcorn lung include
coughing, wheezing and shortness of breath similar to the symptoms of COPD.
But, what we're focusing on today are the lawsuits being filed against the manufacturers
of e-cigarettes because the lithium-ion batteries in the devices have been known to explode
during normal use and during the time that you're charging the batteries. 80% of the
fires with e-cigarettes occur while the device is being charged in the USB port. The problem
stems from the fact that different USB ports put out different levels of voltage and current
which can cause the battery in e-cigarettes to overheat. This overheating triggers a reaction
that's been called the thermal runaway. Once this reaction begins, there's nothing that
can be done to stop it. This thermal runaway creates a super heated explosion that caused
second to third degree burns and, in some cases, the e-cigarette explosions have caused
bone fractures, and muscle damage, and even blindness. You need to understand that these
aren't just small sparks we're talking about. They're full throttle explosions.
According to report by FEMA in 2014, these devices essentially became missiles with an
explosive impact. The FEMA document states e-cigarettes are more likely than other products
with lithium-ion batteries to behave like flaming rockets when a battery fails. That's
their words. And, just like real rockets and missiles, the explosions created by these
e-cigarettes, the batteries, they can be devastating. In 2012, a man in Florida had e-cigarette
explode in his mouth shattering most of his teeth and blowing off a portion of his tongue.
In December 2016, an e-cigarette device exploded in a man's pocket while he was riding on a
bus in California. The explosion caused third degree burns and that seems to be a repetitive
problem that we're seeing here. In January of this year, an Idaho man had an e-cigarette
blow up knocking out seven of his teeth leaving second degree burns on his face. It also shattered
his bathroom sink when the exploding device flew onto this counter.
The FDA has documented more than 130 incidents of battery explosions since these devices
were brought onto the market. Unfortunately, it wasn't until 2016 that the FDA even acquired
the authority to regulate these devices. The formal science based public hearings aren't
even set to begin until April 2017. This problem will only become worse as the use of these
devices continue to grow. More than three million middle and high school students used
e-cigarettes in 2015 making these devices the most utilized tobacco product among kids.
Nearly 4% of adults in the US regularly use e-cigarettes. The growing use can be attributed
to both the number of people using the devices to quit smoking traditional tobacco and because
of the aggressive marketing campaigns that big tobacco is using to sell e-cigarettes.
Joining me now to discuss the problem with e-cigarettes is Atty. Andy Mcgraw. Andy, tell
us why the lithium-ion batteries in e-cigarettes are so prone to explosions and why are they
more dangerous than other devices that use these kinds of batteries.
Well, sure. First, thanks for having me on the show, Mike. Now, lots of devices have
these lithium-ion batteries. They're known for packing a lot of power into a very small
space: laptops, cellphones, lots of devices use these. But, lithium-ion batteries in e-cigarettes
are specifically dangerous because of the shape that they're in. The cylinder can actually
act as a rocket when, as you're talking about, the thermal runaway starts, the end of the
cylindrical battery can rupture, and the material inside of this battery basically can ignite
acting, like you said, just like a rocket. When that happens, these devices act like
bullets and rockets, and they will cause catastrophic damage when used either in somebody's face
or even being stored in the pocket or backpack. The shape of these ion batteries-
Andy, let me ask you this. Considering the relatively small pool of victims, 134, the
FDA has recognized, now that doesn't mean that's all, but they've recognized that versus
the nine million regular adult users of these devices, is it possible that these incidents
can be attributed to user error? Isn't that what we're going to be hearing from this company,
the companies that make this product that, by the way, happen to be the same people that
sold us tobacco and killed millions of people with tobacco and now they're moving to this
product? Talk to us about this defense that we're going to hear. Well, gee whiz, it wasn't
our product. It happened because the dummy didn't use the product right. Isn't that what
we're going to hear and what's your response to that?
Well, first of all, I think that there's a concern that these are being severely under
reported. The number could be much, much higher than that. If you talk to hospital or professionals,
they will tell you that. But, with regards to user error, that is a response to a lot
of manufacturers, a lot of the retailers that they say that they're not being stored properly.
They're not being charged properly. And, the people who are using these batteries, it's
their fault, but that can be the cause of some of them, but the number of explosions
that are existing can also be attributed to the manufacturing of the product. A lot of
these batteries are made overseas. They're made in China where the production may not
be the same quality as other places as well as the materials of the battery. The production
and the materials also cause a very high rate of failure with these, so it cannot just be
by reflected by user error, or improper charging, or improper storage of these batteries.
Okay. There's currently litigation against the makers of these devices because of these
explosions. Can you tell us what the status of the lawsuits are? Before you do though,
did I get it right about the fact that people have had their tongues blown off, the teeth
blown out of their mouth? They've been partially blinded. Are those the facts that you're seeing
as you review these cases?
Yes, absolutely. Although these don't fail incredibly often, when they do, the effect
are catastrophic. They go off in people's cars. They set cars on fire. They go off in
people's houses. They set houses on fire. They go off in pockets causing severe burns
to legs. When they do go off in use, they can destroy teeth. They can destroy parts
of people's tongue. They can break jaws. One individual had his neck broken due to the
force of the impact. These are not small explosions. These are serious, serious malfunctions when
these devices do explode. You're exactly right in that. Those are some major, major-
What is the status right now of these lawsuits? You have probably a handful of people throughout
the country that typically go after these corporations, that have the ability to go
after these corporations. I mean, a lot of people collect cases but you got to have lawyers
that actually can do something once they have them. What is the status of all of that nationally
as far as lawsuits?
There are dozens of lawsuits pending right now. As I stated earlier, part of the problem
is the batteries themselves that are failing, and malfunctioning, and exploding, a lot of
them are made in China and it's very difficult to go against them, but people are suing the
manufacturers of the cigarettes. They're suing the retailers for not advising them of the
dangers of using these lithium-ion batteries and these devices. There are dozens of lawsuits
across the country, again, based on the catastrophic injuries that people are suffering, and those
are the people that they're suing. They're suing the manufacturers.
Earlier you got it exactly right. These big tobacco players, they're still involved. They're
the ones that are involved now in this vaping and this e-cigarette manufacturing. R. J.
Reynolds, Philip Morris, Altria, all of these companies that made those cigarettes, the
traditional cigarettes, they're still in the game, and they're still doing the same kinds
of things. They're advertising-
Okay. Andy, think of the irony of that. Here you have the companies that killed millions
of people and they say, "Oh, we've got to wait. We know we addicted you to the product.
We had plans." I know you've seen the documents, too, where they lay out step by step how they're
going to go about addicting children. They focused on children, 15 to 16 year olds. How
do we addict the child? We've handled those cases. Now, we have them saying, "Gee whiz,
we got you addicted. Now, we want to make a product that's going to get you unaddicted."
Unfortunately the product that they're making to get you unaddicted has the ability to blow
your face off. That is kind of what the scenario is here, isn't it? What's your take?
Absolutely. The statistic I saw, I think, according to the CDC was between 2011 and
2015. The use of these devices by high school students increased 900%. The advertising that
these companies are putting forward into these between 2011, the advertising expenditure
was about 6.4 million. In 2015, the advertising, excuse me, they exploded to $115 million.
That time the use in high school students and in middle school students skyrocketed.
These tobacco companies, they're still advertising these products using the sex appeal, using
the rebellion aspect, using the individuality aspect of it. All of the same kind of tactics
and techniques that they use to sell original cigarettes they're using again.
Andy, I can tell you firsthand since I handled the tobacco litigation, we saw the CEOs, 12
of them stand up, raised their right hand and lie to congress. They're going to do the
same here. It's going to be a tough lawsuit. I hope you'll hang in there and do something
about it, okay?