GAMES, EVERYONE.
GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR
COMING ON, I'M SURE YOU HEARD
THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH
MICHAEL ERIC DYSON RIGHT NOW, I
WANT TO PLAY THE COMMENTS FROM
BEN CARSON, WHERE HE APPEARS TO
COMPARE SLAVES TO IMMIGRANTS.
HE BEGINS TO TALK ABOUT THE
PHOTOS OF PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE
TO ELLIS ISLANDP 3.
>> NOT EIGHT HOURS A DAY, BUT
10, 12, 16 HOURS A DAY, NO SUCH
THING AS A MINIMUM WAGE.
THEY WORKED NOT FOR THEMSELVES
BUT FOR THEIR SONS AND THEIR
DAUGHTERS.
AND THEIR GRANDSONS AND THEIR
GRANDDAUGHTERS THAT THEY MIGHT
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THIS
LAND.
THAT'S WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT.
A LAND OF DREAMS AND
OPPORTUNITY.
THERE WERE OTHER IMMIGRANTS WHO
CAME HERE, ON THE BOTTOM OF
SLAVESHIPS WHO WORKED EVEN
LONGER, EVEN HARD IRFOR LESS,
BUT THEY TOO HAD A DREAM, THAT
ONE DAY THEIR SONS DAUGHTERS,
GRANDSONS, GRANDDAUGHTERS,
GRANDSONS, GREAT GRANDDAUGHTERS,
GREAT GRANDSONS MIGHT PURSUE
HAPPINESS AND PROSPERITY IN THIS
LAND.
>> CAN YOU GIVE US SOME INSIGHT
AS TO WHAT HE MEANT HERE AND WHY
HE WOULD SAY THAT?
>> LOOK, DON, DR. CARSON HAS
RELEASED A STATEMENT THAT WAS
POSTED TO HIS FACEBOOK PAGE
ABOUT AN HOUR AGO, WHERE HE DID
COLLAR PHI THE REMARKS THAT HE
MADE EARLIER TODAY, WHEN HE WAS
ADDRESSING THE STAFF, THE CAREER
STAFF AT THE AGENCY.
AND IN THOSE REMARKS, HE MADE
IT -- IN THAT CLARIFICATION, HE
MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT IN NO
WAY WAS ATTEMPTING TO COMPARE
THE SLAVE NARRATIVE TO THE
IMMIGRANT NARRATIVE, THE TWO ARE
EXTREMELY DISPER ATE.
AND THE FORTITUDE OUR ANCESTORS
DISPLAYED WHEN BEING FORCED INTO
THIS COUNTRY IS NOT SOMETHING
ANYONE WOULD ATTEMPT TO
CHALLENGE.
>> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> HOLD ON, DON.
HOLD ON.
>> NOPE, NOPE, NOPE, NOPE.
IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
YOU SAID HE WASN'T ATTEMPTING
TO, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE
DID, BY COMPARING PEOPLE FROM
ELLIS ISLAND.
SLAVES COULDN'T EVEN COME
THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND OR SEE THE
STATUE OF LIBERTY, BECAUSE IT
WASN'T DURING THAT TIME, THAT'S
THE POINT.
THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT
EXPERIENCES.
HE HIMSELF HE WAS COMPARING IT,
MAYBE IN HIS EXPLANATION HE SAID
THAT.
>> I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE
FACTS AS IT PERTAINS TO SLAVERY
AND IMMIGRANTS COMING FROM
EUROPEAN COUNTRIES INTO AMERICA.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ATTEMPTING
TO DO, I'M SAYING DR. CARSON
MADE A STATEMENT.
CLEARLY, HE'S RECOGNIZED THAT
HIS STATEMENTS WERE NOT THE BEST
STATEMENTS AT THAT TIME, AND
COLLAR PHIED THOSE STATEMENTS,
ONCE ON ARMSTRONG WILLIAMS SHOW.
>> OKAY, I GET WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING.
>> DON.
>> HE FURTHER COLLAR PHIED IT O
MADDEN, AND SHERMICHAEL
SINGLETON.
ALL RIGHT, MR. MADDEN, I KNOW
YOU WANT TO GET IN ON THIS.
WE TALK ABOUT THESE SUBJECTS ALL
THE TIME AND I WANT TO PLAY WHAT
IS D
DR. CARSON SAID ON STROM
WILLIAMS' RADIO SHOW.
>> I THINK PEOPLE ACTUALLY NEED
TO LOOK UP THE WORD "IMMIGRANT."
WHETHER YOU'RE VOLUNTARY OR
INVOLUNTARY, IF YOU COME FROM
OUTSIDE TO THE INSIDE, YOU'RE AN
IMMIGRANT.
WHETHER YOU'RE LEGAL OR YOU'RE
ILLEGAL, YOU COME FROM THE
OUTSIDE TO INSIDE, YOU'RE AN
IMMIGRANT.
SLAVES CAME HERE AS INVOLUNTARY
IMMIGRANTS.
BUT THEY STILL HAD THE STRENGTH
TO HOLD ON.
>> OKAY, SO, AN IMMIGRANT IS A
PERSON WHO COMES TO ANOTHER
COUNTRY TO LIVE VOLUNTARILY FOR
A LONG TIME, WHO COMES.
AND THEN HE, SHERMICHAEL SAID,
HE WROTE ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK,
BUT HE NEVER SAID, I MESSED UP
OR WHAT I INTENDED TO SAY WAS,
HE JUST SAID, THE TWO, THAT
IMMIGRANTS AND SLAVES, THE
NARRATIVE THAT THE TWO SHARE
SPIRAL DIFFERENT