Josh Lucas Had A Machine Gun Pointed At Him

WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW.
FOLKS, YOU KNOW HIM FROM "SWEET HOME ALABAMA" AND "A BEAUTIFUL
MIND."
HE NOW STARS IN "THE MOST HATED WOMAN IN AMERICA."
>> I'M SORRY.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR EXCUSES.
RIGHT NOW ALL I WANT OUT OF YOU IS BREATHING AND VERY LITTLE OF
THAT.
>> COME ON, I JUST HAD A LITTLE TOO MUCH TO DRINK.
>> OH, I AM ASSUMING IT'S THE DRINK TALKING.
OTHERWISE I WOULD FIRE YOUR ASS.
>> WHAT?
YOU WANT TO GET RID OF ME?
GO AHEAD.
BUT I KNOW A LOT OF SECRETS ABOUT THE AMERICAN EIGHTHEST,
SECRETS THAT MIGHT INTEREST THE I.R.S. IN PARTICULAR.
>> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME JOSH LUCAS.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ♪ ♪ ♪
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
>> THIS IS MY VERY FIRST TIME IN THIS THEATER AND, WOW.
I WAS TOLD NOT TO LOOK UP BECAUSE IT WOULD BECOME
DISTRACTING BUT WOW.
>> Stephen: IT'S QUITE BEAUTIFUL, ISN'T 2T?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: WE LOVE IT HERE.
I'M SO GLAD TO MEET YOU BECAUSE I DON'T OFTEN GET TO INTERVIEW
SOMEBODY WHO GREW UP ON SULLIVAN'S ISLAND, SOUTH
CAROLINA, WHICH IS WHERE I SPENT A LOT OF MY CHILDHOOD.
I STILL GO DOWN THERE.
>> THIS IS THIS AMAZING LITTLE ISLAND-- TWO ISLANDS, SULLIVAN'S
ISLAND, AND THE ISLE OF PALM, WHICH IS A REMOTE, VERY
BEAUTIFUL -- >> Stephen: SLEEPY.
>> BEACHY VILLAGE.
I LITERALLY WENT TO SKOAL SCHOOLNEXT DOOR TO MY HOUSE ON
THE BEACH AND THIS IS THE KIND OF PLACE IT WAS, WHERE A PELICAN
ONCE CRASHED AS WE WERE PLAYING IN THE PLAYGROUND, WHICH WAS IN
THE SAND DUNES.
AND IT BROKE ITS WING, AND I WALKED IT HOME TO THE SCHOOL--
TO NEXT DOOR, AND MY MOTHER AND I WRAPPED IT UP AND HELPED IT.
IT'S AN AMAZING SPECIAL PLACE.
I KNOW IT'S CHANGING.
>> Stephen: NOT TOO MUCH.
IT WAS PRETTY MUCH BUILT OUT IN THE 1930s, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A
RESORT, BUT THE SCHOOL IS A LOT BIGGER.
>> WE RIFD WHEN WE RENTED OUT DURING THE SUMMER AND HAD NO
HEAT.
WE ONLY RENTED IT IN THE WINTER BECAUSE WE HAD NO MONEY.
WE WOULD GET IT FOR NINE MONTHS A YEAR, MOVE OUT IN THE SUMMER
AND PEOPLE WOULD SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO STAY THERE FOR A WEEK
OR TWO WEEKS, LIKE AIR BNBAT THE TIME.
>> Stephen: YOU LIVED A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACESAISE KID, 30
DIFFERENT PLACES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHY DID YOU MOVE SO MUCH?
>> MY PARENTS WERE VERY ACTIVE, PARTICULARLY IN PROTESTING AT
THAT POINT NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION.
THEY FELT THIS COUNTRY WAS SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME AND
ENERGY BUILDING BOMBS AND WEAPONS AS OPPOSED TO EDUCATION
AND HEALTH CARE.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: SO THIS WAS LIKE 1970s-- 1970s, 1980s, "NO
NUKES" MOVEMENT, JACKSON BROWN, DARRELL HANNAH, THAT KIND OF
THING?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Stephen: MOSTLY IN THE SOUTH.
>> THEY FOCUSED IN THE SOUTH BECAUSE THAT'S WHY MY FATHER WAS
FROM, IT'S WHERE I WAS BORN AND IT WAS A PLACE THEY FELT NEEDED
THE MOST ATTENTION.
AND THEY WOULD GO-- WE MOVED TO SOUTH CAROLINA BECAUSE THERE WAS
A NUCLEAR PLANT THERE -- >> Stephen: THE POLARIS SUB
BASE THERE WAS, TOO.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
>> Stephen: THE GIANT POLARIS SUBS WHICH LOOKED LIKE WHALES OF
DEATH CAME RIGHT OUT OF SULLIVAN'S ISLAND, OF THE HARBOR
THERE.
>> MY MOTHER WAS STANDING ON THE DECK OF THE HOUSE WE LIVED IN ON
SULLIVAN'S ISLAND-- YOU'LL LOVE THIS STORY-- SHE WAS VERY
PREGNANT, NINE MONTHS PREGNANT WITH MY BABY SISTER.
AND SHE SEES THIS LIGHT COMING TOWARDS HER AT HIGH SPEED.
SHE STARTS TO FREAK OUT AND PANIC THINKING IT'S A UFO.
IT WAS AN F-18 FIGHTER THAT SPHWUZZED THE HOUSE AND KNOCKED
HER ON HER FEET AND ALMOST SENT HER INTO BIRTH BECAUSE OF THE
BASES THERE.
SHEESHE IMMEDIATELY FREAKED OUT, CALLED THE BASE, CALLED THE
MILITARY BASE, AND THEY SAID THERE WAS NO AIRCRAFT THERE AT
ALL BUT IT LITERALLY KNOCKED HER TO THE GROUND.
>> Stephen: DID PEOPLE KNOW YOUR PARENTS WERE THERE
PROTESTING NUCLEAR WEAPONS?
>> I'M SURE THEY DID IT ON PURPOSE.
>> Stephen: WOW, YOU SHOULD GET A SENATE SUBCOMMITTEE TO
INVESTIGATE THAT FOR YOU.
IT'S NEVER TOO LATE AND YOU DON'T NEED ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL.
JUST SAY, "YOU'RE GOING TO CALL MY MOM A LIAR?
I'LL TAKE YOU TO COURT."
HOW COME YOU DON'T HAVE A SOUTHERN ACCENT.
>> LIKE YOU I HAD IT BEANTOWN OUT OF ME.
>> Stephen: I WENT TO ACT EXPOOL THEY SAID, "NO MORE OF
THAT."
>> I HAD THE REAL, CHARLESTON ACCENT --
>> Stephen: YOU WERE BORN IN LITTLE ROCK.
>> FAYETTEVILLE.
>> Stephen: MY APOLOGIZE.
>> BUT I DID, I HAD IT.
I HAD A REAL SOUTHERN ACCENT, AND MY MOTHER WAS FROM NEW YORK.
>> Stephen: WHEN DOES IT COME BACK?
>> LET'S GET DRUNK, MAN.
>> Stephen: I'M FINE, BUT WHEN IT DOES IT COME BACK.
IT IS.
YEAH, A LITTLE TOO MUCH TO DRINK, YOU GET A LITTLE ANGRY.
OR TALK TO SOMEBODY BACK HOME ON THE PHONE.
NOW HOW-- HOW HIPPIE ARE YOUR PARENTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HERE?
LIKE, HOW-- HOW COMMITTED?
HOW CHAIN YOURSELF TO A NUCLEAR REACTOR WERE THEY
( LAUGHTER ) >> MY FATHER WOULD BE SO
DISAPPOINTED I SAY THAT BUT ON A SCALE FROM A SIGN-OUT AND BEING
ARRESTED AND GOING TO JAIL, THEY WENT TO JAIL.
THEY DID.
THEY BELIEVED HARD IN WHAT THEY DID.
MY FATHER-- ( APPLAUSE )
I WATCHED MY FATHER BE ARRESTED A NUMBER OF TIMES FOR
TRESPASSING BECAUSE THAT WAS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CIVIL
PROTEST WITHOUT ANY VIOLENCE WHATSOEVER.
THEY ABSOLUTELY BELIEVED IN THE NONVIOLENT MOVEMENT.
BUT IT WAS AMAZING AS A KID WHEN IT HAPPENED BECAUSE ONCE, THEY
PUT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE ARRESTED, ABOUT 50 PEOPLE,
99 NDZ THESE PENS THAT THEY WERE MADE OF GATES.
AND I-- I WAS THIS ANGRY LITTLE FIVE, SEVEN-YEAR-OLD BOY OUTSIDE
THIS GATE AND I PICKED UP A PINE CONE AND THREW IT ACROSS-- NOT
AT ANYTHING-- BUT I NEARLY HIT ONE OF THE GUARDS, ONE OF THE
COPS THAT WAS WATCHING.
AND HE HAD-- HE HAD A-- THIS IS TRUE-- HE HAD A AUTOMATIC
MACHINE GUN IN HIS HAND, AND HE TURNED AND POINTED IT RIGHT AT
ME.
AND TO THIS DAY, TO THIS DAY, A COP PULLS ME OVER FOR A PARKING
TICKET.
>> AND START SHAKE.
IT TERRIFIES ME.
>> Stephen: YOU DON'T KEEP ANY PINE CONES IN YOUR GLOVE
COMPARTMENT, DO YOU?
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT AT ALL.
>> PINE CONES ARE MY CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.
I CONSIDER THEM NONVIOLENT.
>> Stephen: WELL, YOU HAVE A NEW FILM CALLED "THE MOST HATED
WOMAN IN AMERICA," WHICH IS ABOUT MADELINE MURRAY O'HARE,
AND HER ABDUCTION.
AND I GREW UP, I WAS RAISED A CATHOLIC, AND I WAS, BOY, BOY,
THERE WAS NOTHING-- >> YOU HATED HER RIGHT.
>> Stephen: SHE WAS CERTAINLY SOMEBODY YOU THREW DARTS AT IN
YOUR MIND.
IF YOU TELL THE PEOPLE WHO SHE WAS AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE
FILM.
>> MADELINE MURRAY O'HARE WAS THIS HOUSEWIFE WHO HAD A
COUPLE-- MAYBE ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN LIVED AT HOME WITH HER
VERY RELIGIOUS PARENTS.
AND ONE DAY, ONE OF HER KIDS CAME HOME HOMEAND TALKED ABOUT
HOW HE HAD TO SAY THE LORD'S PRAYER AT SCHOOL-- HE WENT TO
PUBLIC SCHOOL.
>> Stephen: IT WAS IN THE 60s.
>> AND SHE SAID, "NO, YOU DON'T."
AND HE SAID, "WELL, MOM, THEY SAID I DO.
SHE DRAGGED HIM INTO THE SCHOOL AND SAID,"MY SON DOES NOT HAVE
TO PRAY."
AND THE WOMAN SAID, "YES HE DOES."
SHE SAID, NO, HE DOESN'T.
SUE US."
SHE TOOK IT ALL WAIT TO THE SUPREME COURT-- I THINK THE
AMAZE THING ABOUT THE STORY FOR EVERYONE TO CONSIDER, THIS WOMAN
HAD NO MONEY, NO POLITICAL POWER WHATSOEVER, BUT SHE TOOK THIS
MISSION SO FAR AS TO GO TO THE SUPREME COURT AND HAVE THE
CONSTITUTION, THE LAWS -- WELL, THE CONSTITUTION MAY BE HONORED,
IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
BUT HAVE THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY CHANGE.
AND IT'S AN AMAZING THING THAT SHE DID.
AND IN THE PROCESS SHE BECAME, YOU KNOW, A REAL TRUE PARIAH TO
MUCH OF AMERICA.
THEY FELT LIKE SHE HAD TAKEN AWAY THIS, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL
THING THAT HAPPENED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL DAY.
>> Stephen: RIGHT, THE IDEA THAT THERE WAS SORT OF-- AGAIN,
THERE'S A PERENNIAL SORT OF FOOTBALL WHICH IS PRAYER IN
SCHOOLS.
>> EXACTLY.
>> Stephen: SHE'S THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY STOPPED THAT FROM
HAPPENING.
>> SHE STOPPED IT EXACTLY.
AND HER WHOLE POINT WAS YOU CAN PRAY BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRAY
THE LORD'S PRAYER.
SHE SAID SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO A PRAYER FROM THE KORAN IF YOU
WANT.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT.
IT SHOULD BE YOUR PRIVATE MOMENT.
IT BECAME SOMETHING THAT WAS BATTLED OVER.
THERE WERE RIOTS.
SHE HAD DEATH THREATS AND SHE CREATEDLY THE AMERICAN ATHEIST
SOCIETY, AND TOOK IT AND WOULD LITERALLY GO TO A THEATER LIKE
THIS WITH A CATHOLIC PRIEST AND THEY WOULD HAVE THESE DISPBZ SHE
WOULD RIP UP THE BIBLE IN FRONT OF EVERYONE AND YELL AND SCREAM.
>> Stephen: DID NOT MAKE A LOT OF FRIENDS.
>> SHE LOVED -- >> Stephen: AND I'M NOT GIVING
IT AWAY-- IT DID NOT END WELL FOR HER.
>> IT DID NOT END WELL, WHICH IS WHAT I PLAY.
I PLAY THE GUY WHO SHE HELPED-- SHE WAS A-- SOMEONE WHO BELIEVED
IN HELPING OTHERS, WITHOUT A DOUBT.
SO SHE TOOK THIS GUY WHO WAS IN PRISON AND HE WORKED FOR HER AND
IN THE PROCESS, SHE STARTED SHOWING HIM HOW SHE WAS
BASICALLY TAKING THE MONEY THAT PEOPLE WERE SENDING HER FOR THE
WORK THAT SHE WAS DOING, AND EMBEZZLING IT AND PUTTING IT IN
OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS.
SO HE REALIZED THAT.
WHEN THEY HAD THAT BATTLE THAT YOU SEE IN THAT SCENE, SHE
EMBARRASSES HIM AND HE DECIDES TO RETALIATE BY TAKING HER--
KIDNAPPING HER AND HER SON AND HER GRANDDAUGHTER.
AND IT DOES NOT GO WELL.
>> Stephen: DOES NOT GL GWELL.
AND THE POLICE DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO LOOK BECAUSE SHE WAS--
>> SHE DISAPPEARED FOR FIVE YEARS AND NOBODY INVESTIGATED,
THE POLICE OR F.B.I., BECAUSE THEY WERE SO HAPPY SHE WAS
MISSING.
>> Stephen: WOULD.
WELL, HAPPY THAT YOU'RE HERE.
>> GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.
>> Stephen: PLEASE COME BACK TO SULLIVAN'S ISLAND.
YOU'LL STILL LIKE IT.
"THE MOST HATED WOMAN IN AMERICA" IS ON NETFLIX MARCH 24.
JOSH LUCAS, EVERYBODY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH ANDY DALY.

Josh Lucas Had A Machine Gun Pointed At Him

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