Mike Pence Used Private Email, Got Hacked

IT TURNS OUT MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT, WHILE HE WAS GOVERNOR
OF INDIANA, USED A PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER TO DO IS CORRESPONDENCE
IN CERTAIN MATTERS.
ACCORDING TO THE INDIANAPOLIS STAR --
-- HE HAD AN AOL ACCOUNT, IS
HOW HE CHOSE TO KEEP UP WITH HIS
CORRESPONDENCE.
BECAUSE OF THOSE CDS, HE HAD 90 MINUTES STORED UP
--
NOW, WHEN ASKED, THIS IS THE RESPONSE THE VICE PRESIDENT HAD.
THE EMAIL PRACTICES WERE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF
INDIANA'S LAWS.
THERE'S NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER BETWEEN
HILLARY CLINTON'S PRACTICE OF HAVING A PRIVATE SERVER,
MISHANDLING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, DESTROYING EMAILS
WHEN THEY WERE REQUESTED BY THE CONGRESS AND BY OFFICIALS.
WE
HAVE FULLY COMPLIED WITH ALL OF INDIANA'S LAWS.
AT WHAT HE SAID, BUT IF YOU READ UP ON WHAT EXACTLY -- HOW
THIS INFORMATION CAME TO THE PUBLIC, IT'S BECAUSE SOME OF IT
WAS RELEASED BY THE NEW GOVERNOR OF INDIANA, AND ACCORDING TO THE
INDIANAPOLIS STAR --
SO WHATEVER YOU THINK ABOUT PRIVATE EMAIL ACCOUNTS, IF YOU
WANTED TO GO AFTER HILLARY CLINTON FOR IT, THERE IS CLEARLY
A HYPOCRISY HAPPENING.
IS THERE?
I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
IN 2015 THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
DID A SURVEY, OVER ONE THIRD OF GOVERNMENT APPOINTEES USE
PERSONAL UNSECURED EMAIL.
WHICH I DID, AND EVERY GOVERNMENT
EMPLOYEE I KNOW.
HERE IS WHAT CHUCK GRASSLEY SAID IN 2015, I
WANT TO QUOTE IT -- I THINK THEY ALL FALL INTO ONE GREAT BIG
MISTAKE HE MADE, IT COULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE LAW, IT
PROBABLY IS.
SUMMER SUGGESTING HE COULD EVEN BE PROSECUTED.
HE
WAS USING A PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS INSTEAD OF A GOVERNMENT
ONE AND PROBABLY VIOLATES THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND
PROBABLY NATIONAL SECURITY LEGISLATION.
I CHANGED THE
GENDER.
THE THING IS, IT DOESN'T. AND JUST LIKE HILLARY
DIDN'T, IT DOESN'T HERE EITHER.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THE
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A REQUEST.
AND THAT
MEANS YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTS.
PENCE DOES PROVIDE
THEM, HE SAVED HIS AOL ACCOUNT SO YOU CAN RETRIEVE THE EMAILS
AND YOU HAVE IT.
IT'S A POTENTIAL VIOLATION OF
RECORD-KEEPING REGULATIONS IF THE THINGS WERE CLASSIFIED, BUT
THAT STILL REMAINS SOMETHING THAT INTERNAL STUFF, THAT ISN'T
A BIG DEAL.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A BIG WASTE OF TIME WHEN YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT EMAILS.
WHAT THESE THINGS ARE IS, WE OPERATE IN
CHAOS THEORY.
TOO MANY THINGS COME AT US ALL AT ONCE AND WE
MAKE LAWS THAT SEEM TO MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU START DRAFTING
THEM, AND BY THE TIME THEY ARE IMPLEMENTED THEY ARE OUTDATED
AND IRRELEVANT.
THIS IS STUFF, THEY ARE TRYING TO CODIFY TECHNOLOGY FROM
15 YEARS AGO.
BUT YOU WERE A POLICE OFFICER, I UNDERSTAND WE SHOULDN'T LOOK
INTO YOUR PRIVATE EMAILS AND YOUR TENDER ACCOUNT, BUT I'VE
WORKED FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND IN
MY EXPERIENCE THERE'S ONLY ONE REASON YOU HAVE A PERSONAL EMAIL
ACCOUNT YOU USE FOR GOVERNMENT BUSINESS, AND THEN YOUR
GOVERNMENT EMAIL ACCOUNT.
IF YOU ARE CONDUCTING GOVERNMENT
DECISIONS ON THE PRIVATE EMAIL ACCOUNT IN MY EXPERIENCE THERE'S
ONLY ONE REASON TO DO THAT, AND THAT IS TO SHIELD IT FROM THAT
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, TO MAKE DECISIONS AND HAVE
CONVERSATIONS AND DO THINGS THAT ARE AGAINST THE PUBLIC INTEREST,
OR ARE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S PRIVATE INTERESTS.
BUT DOESN'T HAVE TOP-SECRET CLASSIFICATION?
THE HYPOCRISY, TO ME, I WOULD BE LIKE WE SHOULDN'T BE MAKING A
BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS, NOR SHOULD WE HAVE MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT
THAT.
AND MOST AMERICANS DON'T HAVE A FIRM GRASP, NEITHER DOES
MIKE PENCE -- UNLESS OF COURSE HE'S JUST BEING POLITICAL, WHICH
IS FINE -- AS TO WHAT HILLARY DID.
HE'S JUST STARTING TO SAY
STUFF, DESTROYED EMAILS, MISHANDLING CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION, WHICH WAS NOT THE FINDING OF THE FBI, THAT THEY
MISHANDLED CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
HILLARY CLINTON I
WISH HAD USED AN AOL ACCOUNT BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD'VE HEARD
YOU'VE GOT JAIL.
THAT'S GOOD.
THAT IS A LOSS FOR AMERICA.
AND THEN THE NOTION THAT THEIR
BIG GET IS WE FOUND OUT HE HAD A PRIVATE EMAIL EXCHANGE ABOUT THE
FEDERAL OFFICIALS ARRESTING PEOPLE ON TERRORISM CHARGES,
WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLIC -- IT'S NOT LIKE -- THERE IS NO AH
HA MOMENT THERE.
ALSO I'M DEFENDING IN GENERAL POLITICIANS
WHO USE PRIVATE EMAIL.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT
SHIELDING THE PUBLIC, AND PROTECTING AND SHIELDING
THEMSELVES FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND NOT FOR NOBLE PURPOSES, FOR CORRUPT ONES.
BUT IS THAT TRUE?
YOU THINK MIKE PENCE IS FACILE ENOUGH, AND GUYS LIKE HIM, TO
REMEMBER TO USE THE DIFFERENT EMAIL ACCOUNTS?
THIS IS NOT A
MAKE FUN OF ALL PEOPLE, THIS IS IT WAS HARD ENOUGH TO GET ME TO
UNDERSTAND THIS IN GENERAL, NOW I HAVE TO REMEMBER WHICH IS
WHICH AND SWITCH BACK AND FORTH?
I THINK SOME OF THAT HAS TO DO
-- WE KNOW IT WAS TRUE WITH HILLARY, WHO WOULDN'T GIVE UP
THE BLACKBERRY BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE
ANYTHING ELSE.
AOL WORKS, THOUGH.
THAT'S NOT A DEFENSE OF WHY THEY KEPT A SEPARATE SERVER,
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE.
THAT WAS POLITICAL TONE DEAFNESS.
MIKE PENCE HAS ENOUGH OR PUBLICANS DEFENDING HIM, WE
DON'T NEED TO JOIN THE CHORUS.
BUT I'M WITH BERNIE, ENOUGH WITH THE DAMN EMAILS.
I MET WITH ANYONE, STICK TO THE FACTS OF THE CASE, THIS
DEMONSTRATES THE IDENTITY POLITICS WE ARE HAVING.
I READ
THIS QUOTE FROM 2015 TALKING ABOUT HILLARY AND I JUST CHANGED
THE GENDERS SO IT WAS A MALE.
THIS TAKES US AWAY FROM
EVERYTHING THAT MATTERS.
FOR INSTANCE RIGHT NOW CAMDEN, NEW
JERSEY WILL DO RADICAL POLICE REFORM, THEY HAVE A RADICAL
MAYOR, WE HAVE SEVEN FUCKING STORIES ON TRUMP.
WE HAVE A
YOUNG BLACK MALE WAS COMING UP, RUNNING FOR MAYOR, HAS A LOT OF
COMMUNITY SUPPORT, HE WANTS TO DO MY CIVILIAN LED MODEL WHERE
HE WILL PUT CONTROL OF POLICING IN THERE, WE WILL TRY TO CONNECT
HIM WITH JUSTICE DEMOCRATS TO GET A REFORM MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF
BITCHING ABOUT THE SAME POLITICS WE HAVE BEEN FOR 100 YEARS.
AOL IN ITS DEFENSE IS ONLY 75 YEARS OLD.
ONE REASON I LOVE THE
STORY IS A) BECAUSE IT AOL, AND B)
I WANT TO FIND A WAY WE CAN
HANDLE EMAILS WHERE IT IS NOT AN ISSUE ANYMORE.
IT'S PROBABLY AOL AND STUFF.
FROM A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE
PERSPECTIVE, HOW SHIT NEVER WORKS, THEY COME AND FIND OUT
THEY DELETED ALL THESE EMAILS, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WENT --
BECAUSE GOVERNMENT IS INEPT.
WE WANT TO PUT THIS BIG CONSPIRACY,
BUT THERE'S A CONSPIRACY OF MORONS.
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES.
IT'S COMPLETE INEPTITUDE.
I HEAR YOU --
AS A GENERALIZATION.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE TRYING TO DO GOOD WORK, AND SOME
TRYING TO DO GOOD THINGS.
I HESITATE TO ADAPT THAT MANNER OF
THINKING BECAUSE I THINK IT BREEDS TRUMP.
MIKE PENCE IS SMART ENOUGH TO USE GMAIL.
I ALSO THINK HE
PROBABLY WON'T LAUNCH ONE OF SEVERAL THOUSAND NUCLEAR
WEAPONS, AND WE ALL KNOW TRUMP WILL, WHICH IS WHY WE SHOULD
FOCUS ON THAT EXISTENTIAL THREAT.
BUT HOW WILL WE KNOW IF HE HAS A PRIVATE SERVER HOW INDIANA'S
GOVERNOR RESPONSE TO A TERROR ATTACK IN BELGIUM?
AND HERE'S
SOMETHING I WANT TO KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO THESE PEOPLE HAD
MEETINGS AND PHONE CALLS, IT WAS THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD.
NOW BECAUSE OF -- WE ARE NOT QUITE KEEPING UP WITH
TECHNOLOGY.
TO ME, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT A GOVERNMENT THAT
WORKS IN THE SHADOWS, BUT IT'S OKAY WITH ME IF A CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OR SOMEONE ON HIS STAFF EMAIL SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT
A PRESSING PUBLIC MATTER AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SEE ALL THOSE
EXCHANGES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WALK SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH A
STENOGRAPHER WHO WRITES DOWN EVERYTHING THEY SAY, THAT IS
PRIVATE, WHY IS THE EMAIL AUTOMATICALLY PUBLIC?
I WANT TO KNOW EVERY CONVERSATION THAT DONALD TRUMP
AS CHIEF EXECUTIVE HAS HAD WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN, STEVE
BANNON, ALL THOSE GUYS.
SOME OF THEM RISE TO THAT LEVEL.
IT'S THE SAME EVERYWHERE, YOU HAVE TO BRING IT INTO THE
LIGHT, YOU CAN'T LET THEM CONDUCT BUSINESS IN THE
DARK AND IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT AND MAKE MONEY OFF IT,
THERE'S A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR DARK THINGS TO HAPPEN.
WE'RE ON THE SAME SIDE, I'M NOT SECRETLY PRETENDING TO BE ON
YOUR SIDE WHEN I'M NOT.
BUT WHAT ABOUT CONVERSATIONS THAT AREN'T
ELECTRONIC?
OR PHONE CONVERSATIONS?
WELL, NOW WE KNOW
THOSE ARE RECORDED ALSO.
BUT MEETING IN THE HALL TO DISCUSS A
THING?
THEN WE NEVER KNOW.
SO THE IDEA THAT BECAUSE THERE
BECAME A WAY TO TRACK EVERY MEMO, IT USED TO BE WE WOULD
SEND MEMOS BACK AND FORTH, AND THEN THE CARBURETOR BLOWS UP AND
THEY DESTROY THAT MEMO --
SUNLIGHT IS THE BEST DISINFECTANT, WE NEED IT ON THE
GOVERNOR'S DECISIONS AND THE PRESIDENT'S DECISIONS AND THE
MAYOR'S AS EXECUTIVES, WE NEED TO SEE WHY THEY MAKE THE
DECISIONS THEY DO, AND WHO WITH.
A LOT OF TIMES DECISIONS AREN'T
MADE IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM OR ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS, THEY ARE
MADE ON K STREET.
IN THE LOBBYIST OFFICE, OR SMOKE-FILLED
--
WE ARE STILL NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT, AND AS A RESULT WE ARE
RUNNING THE RISK OF HYPER FOCUSING ON EMAILS.
THEN WE ARE
UNABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WHAT IS GRAVE AND WHAT IS MERELY
CARELESS OR SILLY.
AND WE NEED TO ALWAYS DISTINGUISH WHAT IS
GRAVE FROM WHAT IS CARELESS OR SILLY.

Mike Pence Used Private Email, Got Hacked

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