CLAIM THAT FORMER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA WIRETAPPED HIM
DURING THE LAST ELECTION.
IN FACT, THOSE WHO WOULD KNOW, WHO
WOULD HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THIS, HAVE ALSO DROPPED OFF.
THE
REPUBLICAN HEAD OF THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAD THIS
TO SAY ABOUT TRUMP'S CLAIM --
>>ABOUT THE ISSUE WITH THE PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT TAPPING
TRUMP TOWER, EVIDENCE STILL REMAINS THE SAME, WE DON'T HAVE
ANY EVIDENCE THAT THAT TOOK PLACE, AND IN FACT I DON'T
BELIEVE IN THE LAST WEEK OF TIME THE PEOPLE WE'VE TALKED TO, I
DON'T THINK THERE WAS AN ACTUAL TAP OF TRUMP TOWER.
PRESIDENT
OBAMA WOULDN'T PHYSICALLY GO AND WIRETAP -- [LOST AUDIO] --
>>SORRY ABOUT THAT PROBLEM, BUT BASICALLY MAKING CLEAR THAT IF
THERE IS EVIDENCE THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE DOESN'T
HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
THAT IS THE REPUBLICAN HEAD OF THE
COMMITTEE, WE ALSO HAVE THE CEDAR DEMOCRAT LARGELY
ECHOING THE SAME POINT.
>>THE CLAIM THE PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE THAT HIS PREDECESSOR
WIRETAPPED HE AND HIS ASSOCIATES AT TRUMP TOWER, THUS FAR WE HAVE
SEEN NO BASIS FOR THAT WHATSOEVER.
WE STILL WANT THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND TO OUR LETTER, WE HAVE GIVEN THEM
UNTIL MARCH 20, WE ARE BOTH WILLING TO USE COMPULSORY
PROCESS IF NECESSARY.
I DO THINK IT'S INCUMBENT, IF WE GET TO
MARCH 20 AND WE HAVE THE TESTIMONY I THINK WE ALL EXPECT
FROM THE DIRECTOR THAT THERE WAS NO SUBSTANCE TO THE ACCUSATION
THAT BARACK OBAMA ILLEGALLY WIRETAPPED TRUMP TOWER, THAT THE
PRESIDENT EXPLAIN HIMSELF.
YOU CAN'T LEVEL AN ACCUSATION OF
THAT TYPE WITHOUT EITHER RETRACTING IT OR EXPLAINING WHY
IT WAS DONE.
AND I THINK FROM A NATIONAL SECURITY PERSPECTIVE
THERE ARE GREAT CONCERNS IF THE PRESIDENT IS WILLING TO SAY
THINGS LIKE THAT WITHOUT ANY BASIS, BECAUSE THE COUNTRY NEEDS
TO BE ABLE TO RELY ON HIM, PARTICULARLY IF WE HAVE A CRISIS
THAT IS AN EXTERNAL CRISIS, AS EVERY PRESIDENT DOES WITHIN
THEIR TERM OF OFFICE.
SO I THINK IT IS A SERIOUS MATTER, AND I
APPRECIATE THE WILLINGNESS TO HAVE AN OPEN HEARING ON
THIS AND I THINK THE TESTIMONY WILL BE IMPORTANT.
>>WE WILL HAVE LINDSEY GRAHAM GOING ON THE WARPATH OVER THIS
IN A SECOND, BUT BRIEFLY, IT IS AMAZING THAT HE CLAIMS THAT THE
FORMER PRESIDENT BROKE A FEDERAL LAW AND CONDUCTED ILLEGAL
SURVEILLANCE OF HIM, AND NOW WE JUST HAVE TO BE LIKE, OH, KIDS
WILL BE KIDS.
THERE IS PROBABLY NO EVIDENCE BUT LET'S LET HIM
SLIDE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE IF BARACK OBAMA HAD COME INTO OFFICE AND
CLAIMED THAT GEORGE W. BUSH WAS WIRETAPPING HIS HOME DURING THE
CAMPAIGN?
>>IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS IS TRUMP 101.
EVERYTHING IS
DEFLECTION AWAY FROM THE FACT THAT HE IS ACTUALLY --
HIS OWN INTELLIGENCE ISSUES.
THIS IS ALL, LOOK OVER THERE, LOOK OVER THERE.
I DON'T THINK IT WORKS IN GOVERNMENT THE WAY IT DID
IN THE CAMPAIGN.
>>OF COURSE THERE IS A GREAT CHANCE THIS WILL BACKFIRE,
BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM FROM HIS
OWN PARTY WHO ARE SAYING I WANT TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED.
BECAUSE IF THERE IS A WARRANT, IF TRUMP IS RIGHT AND
THERE IS A WARRANT, EVEN IF THEY ASKED FOR A WARRANT, THAT MEANS
THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS A SERIOUS CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION OF
SOMEONE AT TRUMP TOWER.
THAT IS VERY INTERESTING.
BUT HE IS TOO
STUPID TO FIGURE OUT HE'S OPENING UP THAT CAN OF WORMS,
AND IS TOO STUPID TO REALIZE HE'S THE PRESIDENT AND IF HE
THOUGHT THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WAS WIRETAPPING HIM HE
COULD JUST ASK SOMEONE.
BECAUSE HE IS THE PRESIDENT.
YOU CAN
JUST GO TO THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS, OR AS BUSH USED TO
SAY, MY INTELLIGENCE GUY, AND SAY WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE
WIRETAP?
THIS IS A KNUCKLEHEADED MOVE, AND ANOTHER REASON WHY
IT'S STUPID IS IT FORCES A REPUBLICAN CHAIRMAN TO COME OUT
AND DO A PRESS CONFERENCE SAYING, NO, THE PRESIDENT
HAS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT HIS CLAIMS.
HE IS FORCED INTO THAT.
IT IS SO SHORTSIGHTED OF TRUMP.
>>IT MAKES HIM LOOK WEAK.
WHEN YOU CAN'T CONTROL HIS OWN PARTY, WE ALL KNOW HE
CAN'T, IT MAKES HIM LOOK WEAK.
>>THE DAMAGES MITIGATED A LITTLE BIT BY THE NATURE OF HIS PARTY,
HOW MUCH PEOPLE DEFER TO AUTHORITY.
I SAW A POLL, THE
PERCENTAGE OF REPUBLICANS WHO BELIEVE OBAMA ORDERED ILLEGAL
WHERE TAPPING OF TRUMP, 60%.
AND THIS IS AFTER A WEEK OF EVEN
REPUBLICANS SAYING THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THAT, YOU CAN'T JUST
SAY THAT.
THE MAJORITY BELIEVE IT.
BUT AS WE SAID, LINDSEY
GRAHAM NOT LETTING THIS ISSUE OF THE HOOK, NOT LETTING IT DIE.
HERE HE IS CLAIMING THAT THERE COULD BE SUBPOENAS COMING.
>>IN TERMS OF THE LETTER WE WROTE, I WANT AN ANSWER.
WE ASKED THE FBI OR DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE LAST WEEK FOR
ANY EVIDENCE OF A WARRANT THAT WOULD ALLOW WIRETAPPING, WE
HAVEN'T HEARD A THING.
>>YOU SAID IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN THE FBI WILL SCREW UP BIG
TIME.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T COMPLY BUT WE WILL ISSUE A
SUBPOENA, WE WILL HOLD UP THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
NOMINATION UNTIL COMMERCE IS PROVIDED WITH AN
EXPLANATION TO CLEAR THE AIR ON WHETHER THERE WAS A WARRANT
AGAINST THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
CONGRESS WILL RAMP UP THE PRESSURE.
>>I THINK GRAHAM IS TROLLING FROM.
HE BRIEFLY RAN AGAINST HIM
AND TRUMP MADE A LOT OF FUN OF HIM, TRUMP HAS A LOT OF ENEMIES
OUT THERE ON BOTH SIDES.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING NOT TO GET
IMPEACHED, THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO GO.
BUT THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY.
FOR TODAY, LINDSEY GRAHAM INSISTING THAT THEY GIVE HIM ANY
INFORMATION ABOUT ANY WARRANT THAT THEY EVEN REQUESTED -- IT
COULDN'T POSSIBLY HELP TRUMP.
IF THEY FIND EVIDENCE THAT THERE
WAS A WARRANT, THAT MEANS THEY HAD A LOT OF EVIDENCE.
GRAHAM,
HE IS A REPUBLICAN, NOT LOOKING TO HELP TRUMP HERE.
HE IS LIKE,
I'M CURIOUS, WHAT WAS HIS WARRANT ABOUT?
AND I'VE SEEN
FROM DAY ONE JUST BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THERE WAS A
WARRANT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DIDN'T REQUEST A WARRANT.
THE GUARDIAN
REPORTED IN JANUARY THAT THEY REQUESTED A WARRANT AND IT WAS
TURNED DOWN, AND YOU REQUEST A WARRANT WHEN YOU THINK THERE
MIGHT BE COLLECTIVITY IN TRUMP TOWER.
YOU DON'T DO THAT
LIGHTLY, AND IF THEY REQUESTED ONE IT'S NOT ILLEGAL, IT IS NOT
OBAMA HIDING IN A MICROWAVE WITH A CAMERA, THAT IS THE FBI SAYING
HEY, FEDERAL JUDGE, I HAVE ALL THIS EVIDENCE AND I THINK THERE
IS A CRIMINAL IN TRUMP TOWER AND I WOULD LIKE TO WIRETAP THEM.
IN
THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION.
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A WORLD OF
EVIDENCE.
THEY TURNED IT DOWN, IF THE GUARDIAN IS CORRECT,
APPARENTLY NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE, BUT THE MORE LINDSEY GRAHAM
KEEPS DIGGING, THE MORE TROUBLED AND TRUMP COULD BE IN.
>>EXACTLY.
OTHER ALLIES OF DONALD TRUMP HAVE ALSO HAD TO
FLAIL TO DEFEND HIM, AND BEFORE I REFERENCED IT, BASICALLY YOU
HAVE A CHILD AND YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE IT'S BEHAVIOR, LOOK AT
THE LENGTHS THEY HAVE TO GO TO PLAY MY TRUMP WASN'T WHOLLY
INACCURATE.
>>WIRETAPPING, THAT SPANS A WHOLE HOST OF SURVEILLANCE
OPTIONS.
THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES
WILL NOW LOOK INTO THAT AND PROVIDE A REPORT BACK.
HE
DOESN'T REALLY THINK THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA WENT UP AND
TAPPED HIS PHONE PERSONALLY.
BUT I THINK THERE IS NO QUESTION
THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, THAT THERE WERE ACTIONS ABOUT
SURVEILLANCE AND OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT OCCURRED IN THE
2016 ELECTION.
THAT IS A WIDELY REPORTED ACTIVITY THAT OCCURRED
BACK THEN.
THE PRESIDENT USED THE WORD WIRETAP IN QUOTES TO
MEAN OTHER BROAD SURVEILLANCE ACTIVITIES.
AND IT'S INTERESTING
HOW MANY NEWS OUTLETS REPORTED THIS ACTIVITY WAS TAKING PLACE
DURING THE 2016
ELECTION CYCLE, NOW WE ARE WONDERING WHERE THE PROOF IS.
>>THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
>>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY ARE REPORTING IT?
BECAUSE YOUR
PRESIDENT SAID IT HAPPENED, THAT'S WHY THE REPORTED.
YOU
MADE IT UP, NOT THEM.
AND I LOVE THE NEW -- IT'S OKAY, IT'S NOT
WIRETAPPING, IT'S "WIRETAPPING."
>>AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
WHATEVER WE NEEDED TO MEAN BASED ON WHAT TRUMP DID TODAY.
>>IS THERE A LEGAL REASON WHY THEY WENT LIKE THIS VERSUS
SAYING IT?
>>OF COURSE NOT, THERE IS NO LEGAL THING TO THIS -- OH, YOUR
HONOR, WILL YOU PLEASE RECOGNIZE THE AIR QUOTES?
>>THAT AUDIOTAPE IS NOT ADMISSIBLE IN COURT BECAUSE
WE CAN'T TELL WHAT HE'S DOING WITH HIS FINGERS.
>>IN OTHER WORDS WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS, DON'T TAKE THE
PRESIDENT LITERALLY, TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY.
THAT IS A QUOTE
THEY'VE SAID BEFORE.
MEANING TREAT HIM WITH GREAT RESPECT,
BUT DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS.
WHAT HE SAYS
WIRETAPPING, HE MEETS "WIRETAPPING."