YOU FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAD A, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE AS DESPICABLE AS
HITLER WHO DIDN'T EVEN SINK TO USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
>> THE FIRST COMMENT FROM SEAN SPICER TODAY THAT STARTED A
SEEMINGLY UNCONTROLLABLE BALL STARTING TO ROLL.
THAT COMMENT SPARKED THE FIRESTORM LED TO A SPOKEN
CLARIFICATION, THREE SPREAD FOLLOW-UP STATEMENTS WITH
WORDING ADDED AND CHANGED EACH TIME.
THEN A FULL-BLOWN APOLOGY. MSNBC'S CHIEF BUSINESS
CORRESPONDENT ALI VERY WELL SHE, BEANA AND ASHLEY REMAIN WITH US.
IT IS WITH DEEP AFFECTION AND APPRECIATION FOR ASHLEY'S WORK
THAT WE WELCOME OUR FRIEND BACK TO THE BROADCAST TONIGHT.
ASHLEY OF COURSE WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FORETHE "WASHINGTON
POST." WE MUST SHOW YOU THIS.
A CAMERA WAS ROLLING ON ASHLEY AS SHE REACTED TO SEAN SPICER.
REPEATED ON A LOOP, IT SLOWLY TOOK OVER THE INTERNET.
WE WILL NOW RERUN THE CLIP WITH THE ACCOMPANYING AUDIO TO SEE
WHAT SHE WAS REACTING TO. >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN
OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY SOMETHING YOU SAID.
QUOTE, HITLER ISN'T EVEN SINK TO THE LEVEL OF USING CHEMICAL
WEAPONS, WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT.
>> I THINK WHEN YOU COME TO SARIN GAS, THERE WAS NO -- HE
WAS NOT USING THE GAS ON HIS OWN PEOPLE THE SAME WAY THAT ASSAD
IS DOING. I MEAN, THERE WAS CLEARLY -- I
UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT. THERE WAS NOT IN THE -- HE
BROUGHT THEM INTO THE HOLOCAUST CENTER.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I'M SAYING THE WAY ASSAD
USED THEM, WHERE HE WENT INTO TOUPS, DROP THEM DOWN, THE USE
OF IT. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION
THERE, THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT. >> AFTER THAT CLARIFICATION, THE
WHITE HOUSE PUT OUT THREE VARIATIONS OF A STATEMENT
LANDING IN THE EP ON THIS, IN NO WAY WAS I TRYING TO LESSEN THE
HORRENDOUS NATURE OF THE HOLOCAUST.
I WAS TRYING TO DRAW A DISTINCTION OF THE TACTIC OF
USING AIRPLANES TO DROP CHEMICAL WEAPONS ON POPULATION CENTERS.
ALL DID NOT GO SMOOTHLY EVEN AFTER THAT, HOWEVER.
SPICER WENT ON LIVE WITH WOLF BLITZER STRESSING HE WANTED TO
APOLOGIZE SO AS NOT TO DISTRACT FROM THE PRESIDENT'S EFFORTS TO
DESTABILIZE THE MIDDLE EAST. HE ALSO TOLD OUR PETER ALEXANDER
THE PRESIDENT DID NOT ASK HIM TO APOLOGIZE.
>> BOTTOM LINE, YOU MADE THE CLARIFICATIONS BEFORE, YOU
WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT THE MESSAGE WAS YOU WERE
TRYING TO DELIVER. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY.
>> OBVIOUSLY I WAS REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALKED
ABOUT ASSAD'S ACTIONS IN TERMS OF USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AND
COMPARING IT TO THE HOLOCAUST WAS INAPPROPRIATE AND
INSENSITIVE AND ESPECIALLY DURING A WEEK LIKE THIS, WE
REGRET THAT. >> YOUR DESIRE WAS TO APOLOGIZE.
>> OH, YEAH. ESPECIALLY DURING A WEEK LIKE
THIS, TO MAKE A COMPARISON THAT IS INPOPE AND INEXCUSABLE.
>> NANCY PELOSI SAYS YOU SHOULD BE FIRED.
IS YOUR JOB SAFE? >> YOU KNOW, WHAT, I MADE A
MISTAKE, I'M OWNING UP TO IT. OBVIOUSLY, I HOPE THAT EVERYONE
UNDERSTANDS WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS.
>> THERE IS SPECULATION THAT A NEWS MAX ARTICLE ON ASSAD AND
HITLER MAY HAVE PUT THE IDEA IN HIS HEAD AS NEWS MAX IS WIDELY
READ IN THE TRUMP WEST WING. BE THAT AS IT MAY THE DAMAGE WAS
DONE. OUR PANELISTS ARE STANDING BY.
ASHLEY IN FAIRNESS I HAVE TO START WITH YOU.
TALK ABOUT THE DYNAMIC IN THE ROOM.
WHAT THE DYNAMIC IS LIKE LOOGLY TO BE TOMORROW.
I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
DO YOU THINK HE SURVIVES THIS? >> YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU NEVER
KNOW WITH THIS WHITE HOUSE. YOU SHOULD SAY AT THE OUTSET.
BUT I THINK HE DOES. ONE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING
WAS THAT THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT VERY RARELY SHOWS
CONTRIBUTION OF ANY SORT. THEIR SORT OF RESPONSE TO MAKING
A MISTAKE OR BEING WRONG IS TO DOUBLE OR TRIPLE DOWN.
AFTER SORT OF THE FIRST GAFF AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN IT
UP AND THE SECOND GAFF, I THINK IT WAS STRIKING AND IMPORTANT
THAT YOU SAW HIM SORT OF GO OUT AND UNEQUIVOCALLY ON A NUMBER OF
NETWORKS SORT OF APOLOGIZE IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS.
I THINK THAT MATTERS. >> BEANA, THERE WAS A
CONTENTIOUS AND TENSE INTERVIEW WITH WOLF BLITZER ON CNN WHERE
HE PAUSED TO EVEN CORRECT SEAN SPICER'S MULTIATTITUDE NOWS
PRONUNCIATIONS OF THE LEADER OF SYRIA'S NAME.
HE KNEW HE WAS FACING A ROUGH EVENING, AND HE TOOK IT.
>> AND WOLF BLITZER, THE SON OF HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS, REMINDED
SEAN SPICER OF THE FEW REMAINING HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS THAT WE HAVE
TO TELL THE STORY. WE STILL KNOW THERE ARE
HOLOCAUST DENIERS, SOME OF THEM UNFORTUNATELY TRUMP SUPPORTERS
IN THE CAMPAIGN. THIS IS A SENSITIVE SUBJECT AND
A SENSITIVE ISSUE TO BE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW DURING THE WEEK
OF PASSOVER. I THINK IT WAS RIGHT FOR SEAN TO
GO OUT AND APOLOGIZE. WE'LL SEE.
IF THIS ADMINISTRATION YOU DON'T NOW HOW THEY WILL REACT.
AT LEAST FOR NOW IT SEEMS HIS JOB IS SAFE.
>> ALI, THE FIRST TIME EVER THE WHITE HOUSE PUT OUT A STATEMENT
ON HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE THAT DIDN'T MENTION JEWS.
>> JEWS YEAH. AND THEY STRUGGLED WITH IT.
PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ASKED ABOUT IT, OTHERS WERE ASKED ABOUT OF
THE. FINALLY CRAIG MELVIN ON MSNBC
GOT HIM TO ACTUALLY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT ON TV.
THE STRUGGLE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE CONSIDERING THAT DONALD TRUMP
HAS JEWS IN HIS BLOOD FAMILY. THE WHOLE THING IS PUZZLING.
I'VE GIVE SEAN CREDIT. HE GOT THIS OUT OF THEIST NEWS
CYCLE PRETTY FAST. I AM WORRIED BECAUSE HE MADE A
COMMENT IF BASHAR ASSAD WERE TO DROP BARREL BOMBS ON HIS PEOPLE
IT MIGHT GET REACTION OUT OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
HE HAS BEEN DOING THAT FOR SIX YEARS.
THIS THING HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SIX YEARS.
WE ARE NOT WORRIED HE IS DEVIOUS OR HE'S A BAD GUY.
DO THEY NOT KNOW THE BEHAVES OF WHAT'S GOING ON?
THE REASON IT'S WORRISOME IS BECAUSE OF WHAT MALCOLM NANCE
SAID TO YOU. WHEN WURP TALKING ABOUT NUCLEAR
WAR WITH IRAN. WE SAID WE DIDN'T WANT IT.
IRANIANS SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT IT.
THAT'S DIFFERENT WITH NORTH KOREA.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PROVOCATION.
DONALD TRUMP SAID IF THE CHINZ DOWN HELP US WE WILL TAKE CARE
OF THINGS. WE MAY BE ON BRINK OF NUCLEAR
WAR, WE CAN'T BE GETTING DISTRACTED BY FACTUAL
INACCURACIES COMING OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
THAT'S THE PART THAT WORRIES ME. >> ASHLEY, I'LL TAKE ON THE
DANGEROUS TASK OF PARAPHASING RYAN LIZZA WHO I HEARD VOICING A
CRITICISM FROM THE PRESIDENT DOWN TO THE SPICER LEVEL THAT
THE THINGS ONE LEARNS ON A DAILY BASIS IN THE PAPER -- YOU KIND
OF ABSORB IT, IN LIFE, THE HISTORY WE LEARN OVER THE COURSE
OF A LIFE ARE SOMETIMES NOT EVIDENT.
AND YOU ARE COVERING A KIND OF NEW REALITY THERE.
>> I THINK THAT'S TRUE. YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE THING
GOING BACK TO ALI'S UPON VERY BRIEFLY IS THAT ON THE BARREL
BOMBS TODAY YOU SAW SEAN SPICER GOING OUT AND CLEANING UP THIS
HOLOCAUST STATEMENT BUT YESTERDAY ACTUALLY IT GOT LESS
ATTENTION BUT IT WAS THE BARREL BOMB STATEMENT HE WAS CLEANING
UP. HE DID SAY THAT REPEATEDLY IN
THE PRESS CONFERENCE, SEEMING TO DRAW ANOTHER RED LINE WITH
BARREL BOMBS WHICH IF HE HAD DONE THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE IN
U.S. POLICY. SORT OF AGAIN AS SOON AS THE
BRIEFING WAS OVER YOU HAD REPORTERS RACING BACK TO THE
PRESS OFFICE TO ASK IS THAT WHAT SEAN SPICER WAS JUST ANNOUNCING
FROM THE PODIUM? DID HE INTEND TO ANNOUNCE THAT?
IF NOT K YOU CLARIFY AND CLEAN THAT UP?
THEY DID. THEY CAME OUT AND SAID NO THE
ADMINISTRATION IS NOT ANNOUNCING A NEW POLL SEE.
I THINK FOR SOME OF THE WATCHERS ESPECIALLY IN THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY AND FOREIGN POLICY THERE IS SOMETHING DISCONCERTING
WHEN SOME OF THESE BASIC FACTS CAN SOMETIMES SEEM TO BE IN
QUESTION. >> WE DID THE MATH TODAY, TO
ASHLEY'S POINT, ALI AND FIGURED OUT IF THEY ARE DROPPING BARREL
BOMBS AT THE SAME RATE AS LAST YEAR ON CIVILIAN POPULATIONS
IT'S ONE EVERY 45 MINUTES. THAT TO BE A TASIC DECLARATION
OF WAR IF THAT WAS OUR LINE. >> THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION,
WITH MANY FLAWS ON ITS SYRIA POLICY OR ITS ABSENCE OF A SYRIA
POLICY DIDN'T DRAW THAT LINE BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT WAS A
LINE -- IF YOU DECIDE YOU ARE GOING AFTER SYRIA FOR ASSAD
DROPPING BARREL BOMBS ON HIS PEOPLE WE ARE AT WAR WITH SYRIA.
WE HAVE TO THINK THESE THINGS THROUGH.
I WOULD HOPE THAT WITH SIX YEARS OF PREPARING FOR THIS, PEOPLE
WOULD HAVE READ IN VERY WELL. THE WHITE HOUSE NEEDS TO KNOW
THE FACTS ABOUT THE TWO PLACES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE LIKE THE
WORLD WAS IN 1914. THE WORLD IS A TINDER BOX ASK.
THE LIGHT CAN GO OFF IN SYRIA OR IN NORTH KOREA.
WE HAVE TO KNOW EVERY LAST DETAIL ABOUT OUR RELATIONS WITH
THOSE COUNTRIES AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.
THIS IS NOT TIME FOR -- IT'S NOT AMATEUR HOUR.
>> DON'T FORGET OUR PRESIDENT JUST TONIGHT SAID WE ARE NOT
GOING INTO SYRIA. OUR DEFENSE SECRETARY SAID OUR
STRATEGY HASN'T CHANGED. THE NUMBER ONE STRATEGY THERE IS
CONTINUING T