PRESIDENT TRUMP BEHIND US HERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE GOT THERE
PARTLY BY TALKING TOUGH ON IMMIGRATION.
BUT HE HASN'T BEEN TALKING MUCH AT ALL ABOUT DOCA, HASN'T BEEN
TOUCHING PROTECTIONS FOR THE SO-CALLED DREAMERS.
AT LEAST NOT YET. NEW QUESTIONS WHERE THIS ALL
GOES NEXT. .
"USA TODAY" REPORTING HE WAS DEPORTED TO MEXICO A COUPLE
MONTHS AGO. THE PAPER SAYS HE WAS GRANTED
DEPORTATION PROTECTION TWICE UNDER DOCA.
BUT THEY SAY ON THE NIGHT OF FEBRUARY 17th, HE DIDN'T SHOW
I.D. OR PROOF OF HIS STATUS WHEN HE WAS APPROACHED BY A BORDER
PROTECTION OFFICER. HE LEFT HIS WALLET IN A FRIEND'S
CAR AND TOLD HE COULDN'T GO BACK AND GET THE DOCUMENTS HE NEEDED.
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY TOLD "USA TODAY" THEY
COULDN'T CONFIRM. ALAN, WHERE IS MONTEZ NOW?
WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THAT NIGHT ON FEBRUARY 17th?
>> EVER SINCE THAT NIGHT HE HAS BEEN LIVING DOWN IN WESTERN
MEXICO. THAT IS AS CLOSE AS I CAN TELL
YOU. WHEN MY COLLEAGUE MET HIM DOWN
THERE, HE ASKED THAT THAT NOT BE PUBLICIZED.
HE DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE A THING WHERE HE'S CONSTANTLY
BEING HARASSED. SO, HE ASKED THAT HE WANTED
TATELL HIS STORY ONCE AND GET IT OUT THERE AND EXPLAIN WHAT
HAPPENED. NOW, HE'S LIVING DOWN THERE
WHILE HIS ATTORNEY IN THE UNITED STATES FILED THE LAWSUIT AGAINST
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO COMPEL THEM TO RELEASE DETAILS ABOUT
WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED THAT NIGHT.
THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR MONTHS AND BEEN WAITING AND NOW THIS IS
GOING TO MOVE INTO THE FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM TO SEE HOW MUCH
INFORMATION CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION HAS AND HOW MUCH THEY
CAN TURN OVER. >> TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL STEPS
HERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT LAWSUIT WAS FILED YESTERDAY.
SO, WHERE WOULD THEY GO AT THIS POINT?
IS IT ABOUT MORE INFORMATION AND ABOUT TAKING ACTION AGAINST THE
ADMINISTRATION OR IS THAT DOWN THE ROAD, IF IT COMES TO THAT?
>> THAT COMES DOWN THE ROAD. RESOLVING HIS CASE AND TRYING TO
GET HIM BACK TO THE UNITED STATES.
THAT COMES DOWN THE ROAD. THE VERY FIRST STEP IN THE
PROCESS. HIS ATTORNEYS FOLLOWED THE
FREEDOMDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST.
REGARDING THAT CASE AND REGARDING THAT DEPORTATION.
THEY DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER AND THEY'RE FILING THIS LAWSUIT IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TO TRY TO GET A JUDGE TO ORDER CPD TO
RELEASE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE NEXT STEPS
OF WHAT HAPPENED. >> A FEW MINOR CONVICTIONS ONE
FOR SHOPLIFTING AND THREE FOR DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE.
TALK ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S GROUNDS FOR DEPORTATION.
>> QUITE SIMPLY, ABSOLUTELY NOT. A FEDERAL AGENCY THAT
ADJUDICATES THESE CASES THAT APPROVES DOCA AND REVOKES DOCA
FOR PEOPLE AND ON THEIR WEBSITE THEY USE THE EXAMPLE OF DRIVING
WITHOUT A LICENSE AS AN OFFENSE THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED WHEN
EITHER APPROVING OR DENYING DOCA.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS CONSIDERED SO LOW PROFILE AND SO
MINOR THAT IT DOESN'T EVEN COME INTO THE EQUATION TO HAVE YOUR
DOCA REVOKED YOU HAVE TO COMMIT A FELONY, WHAT THEY CALL A
SIGNIFICANT MISDEMEANOR, A VIOLENT OFFENSE AND A BIT OF
PRISON TIME OR AN ACCUMULATION OF AT LEAST THREE MINOR
MISDEMEANORS. SO, ACCORDING TO THEM, HE HAS
ONE STRIKE BECAUSE OF THAT SHOPLIFTING CHARGE BUT HE HASN'T
REACHED THOSE THREE AND DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE OFFENSE DOESN'T
FACTOR INTO IT AT ALL. >> STICK AROUND.
I WANT TO TURN TO OUR PANEL. PRESIDENT TRUMP ON FEBRUARY 16th
WAS TALKING ABOUT DOCA. LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.
>> YOU HAVE SOME ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE KIDS.
I WOULD SAY MOSTLY. THEY WERE BROUGHT HERE IN SUCH A
WAY -- IT'S A VERY, VERY TOUGH SUBJECT.
WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH DOCA WITH HEART.
>> DAVID? >> IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.
A BIG DILEMMA FOR THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE AS MUCH AS TRUMP
HAS TALKED ON IMMIGRATION AND HARDLINERS UNDERSTAND THE
POLITICAL CALCULUS HERE. THE DOCA PARTICIPANTS WHICH
NUMBER ALMOST A MILLION ARE SOME OF THE MOST SORT OF SYMPATHETIC
CASES. THE KIDS WHO WERE BROUGHT HERE
AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SAY IN IT AND THEY GREW UP MOSTLY HERE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THEM AS STRIVERS AND TO
OVERTURN THAT TO OFFICIALLY GET RID OF DOCA WOULD PRODUCE A
MAJOR OUTCR AND BOOM RANG BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
LIVE IN LIMBO STATUS. >> IN BETWEEN PHASE.
>> ADVOCATES SAYING, LOOK, WE'RE NOT ADVISING PEOPLE TO SIGN UP
NEW TO THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING FORWARD AT A TIME
WHEN THIS ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING TO PROMOTE MORE PEOPLE.
THIS EXACT TYPE OF CASE THAT ADVOCATES WILL POINT TO AND SAY,
LOOK, THEY'LL GO AFTER THESE PEOPLE AND BEHIND THE SCENES AND
NOT PUBLICIZE IT BUT BOOST THEIR DEPORTATION NUMBERS BY GOING
AFTER PEOPLE. >> JULIE, ANY POLITICAL
INCENTIVE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE NOW TO GET OUT OF THIS LIMBO
WHEN IT COMES TO DOCA? >> IT'S A TOUGH ONE.
JUST HAVING THAT HUMAN FACE OF AN EXAMPLE NOW, AN EMOTIONAL
EXAMPLE OF THE REPERCUSSIONS SOME OF SOME OF THESE POLICIES.
I'M WONDERING WHAT KIND OF OUTREACH, IF ANY, THE WHITE
HOUSE IS DOING TO THIS INDIVIDUAL AND HIS ATTORNEYS OR
VICE VERSA. I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW IT
DEVELOPS FROM A PUBLIC RELATIONS PERSPECTIVE FROM THE WHITE
HOUSE. >> THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN
FOCUSING MORE ON THE OPPOSITE. THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED
BY IMMIGRANTS. SOME SAT WITH THE PRESIDENT IN
HIS BOX DURING THE ADDRESS TO CONGRESS AND MET WITH HIM IN THE
OVAL OFFICE. >> AL, DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORTING
ON WHITE HOUSE REACTION YET OR ANY GUIDANCE TO JULIE'S POINT OR
HER QUESTION, HAS THERE BEEN ANY OUTREACH ON EITHER SIDE?
>> FROM THE WHITE HOUSE SO FAR WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
BUT DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY IS FIGHTING BACK ON
THIS PRETTY HARD. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY DON'T
HAVE A RECORD OF HIM BEING DEPORTED.
THEY ONLY HAVE A RECORD OF HIM TRYING TO REENTER THE COUNTRY
AND THEY'RE QUESTIONING HIS DOCA STATUS.
THEY'RE SAYING IT EXPIRED BACK IN 2015.
I'VE SENT THEM DOCUMENTS SHOWING THAT -- DOCUMENTS THAT HE HAD
THAT SEEMED IT WAS RENEWED IN JANUARY OF 2016 AND EXTENDED
THROUGH 2018. IT WAS VALID FOR ANOTHER TWO
YEARS AND THEY HAVEN'T'T RESPOND TO NAT YET.
>> YOUR STORY PROVOKED REACTION STEVE KING TOASTING,
ESSENTIALLY, THIS DEPORTATION. YOUR REACTION -- HERE'S THE
TWEET RIGHT HERE. THIS ONE IS FOR YOU, WITH A LINK
TO YOUR STORY, ALAN. REACTION TO THAT?
>> I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO WHAT YOU GUYS WERE JUST TALKING
ABOUT. HOW DIFFICULT THIS IS
POLITICALLY. ON THE ONE HAND, YOU HAVE A VAST
MAJORITY. ALMOST ALL DEMOCRATS SUPPORT
GIVING SOME SORT OF LEGAL STATUS TO THESE DREAMERS.
YOU HAVE A GOOD CHUNK OF REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE THAT
SYMPATHY FOR THEM AND WHO HAVE THAT SOFT SPOT FOR THEM AND WANT
TO SEE SOMETHING DONE FOR THEM. BUT I THINK STEVE KING SPEAKS
MORE TO THAT BASE OF TRUMP SUPPORT THAT HAS BEEN VERY, THAT
WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HIS ANTI-IMMIGRATION MESSAGE AND,
SO, I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S SPEAKING TO RIGHT THERE AND
THAT'S WHAT HE RISKED POLITICALLY IF HE JUST
COMPLETELY ADOPTS DOCA AND ALLOWS IT TO PROCEED.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE HARDEST LINE CONGRESS MEMBERS OVER THE
LAST FEW YEARS, ESPECIALLY IN 2013 WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA TRIED
TO GO FORWARD WITH A COMPREHENSIVE BILL.
SESSIONS IS NOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
THESEESE IDEAS ARE VERY CLOSE T THE WHITE HOUSE.
THIS IS WHAT DONALD TRUMP RAN ON.
STEVE KING IS ONE OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN.
TO HIM THE POLITICS ARE DIFFERENT IN IOWA.
HE WILL GO OUT AND CONTINUE TO SAY THAT.
FOR OTHERS, A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED SITUATION.
THAT'S WHY TRUMP HAS NOT OVERTURNED THIS YET.
>> VERY DIVISIVE EVEN IN THE GOP.
>> MAYBE NOT IN 2018, BUT CERTAINLY 2020.
LATINOS ARE AMONG THE FASTEST GROWING VOTER BLOC.
>> DAVID, JULIE, THANK YOU VERY