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>> CLEVELAND POLICE ARE LOOKING FOR A SUSPECT THAT POSTED A
VIDEO OF HIM MURDERING SOMEONE
ON FACEBOOK LIVE.
HE SHOT AND KILLED AN ELDERLY PASSERBY
SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN POSTED
IT TO FACEBOOK.
HIS ACCOUNT ON FACEBOOK HAS BEEN REMOVED.
CLEVELAND OFFICIALS HAVE IDENTIFIED THE SUSPECT.
WE WILL
NOT SAY HIS NAME.
THEY ARE SEARCHING FOR HIM IN THE
CLEVELAND AREA AND BEYOND.
THE
VICTIM WAS 73-YEAR-OLD ROBERT.
LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHAT IS
IN THE VIDEO.
IT IS
INCREDIBLY UPSETTING TO THOSE
WHO HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO.
FACEBOOK HAS ISSUED A RESPONSE.
THE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE
ASKING SURROUNDING THIS CASE IS THAT PERHAPS FACEBOOK IS
COMPLICIT IN SOME WAY AND FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAVE BEEN ON
THE INTERNET FOR THREE HOURS.
PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK UP TO MAD MEN LIKE THIS.
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE?
>> I THINK THERE IS A GOVERNING SECTION 230 IS A LAW INTENDED TO
PROTECT INTERNET SITES OR
SERVICE PROVIDERS FROM BEING PROSECUTED FOR THE ACTS OF
PEOPLE WHO POST ON THAT SITE.
THAT IS REALLY WHERE THE RUBBER
MEETS THE ROAD.
ANY KIND OF TWEAK TO THAT COULD HAVE
WIDE-RANGING EFFECTS ON THE
GENERAL LIABILITY OF INTERNET COMPANIES BY AND LARGE DOT IN
THIS CASE IT DOES SEEM LIKE
FACEBOOK ñ FACEBOOK HAS BEEN CHANGING AS RAPIDLY AS I CAN
EXPECT THEM TO.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD PHYSICALLY
BE ABLE TO AUTOMATICALLY NOTIFY
PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THAT KIND OF ILLICIT CONTENT IS PUT
ON THEIR SITE.
>>REMEMBER THIS WAS A FACEBOOK LIVE.
IT WAS NOT LIKE IT WAS A
PRERECORDED VIDEO.
THIS WAS HAPPENING IN REAL TIME.
IT
DOESN'T SEEM AS THOUGH THERE IS THAT KIND OF TECHNOLOGY WHERE
THEY CAN SENSE THIS AND TAKE THE
VIDEO DOWN OR TELL AUTHORITIES TO AVOID THIS.
>> FACEBOOK IS TOTALLY NOT GUILTY.
IN ORDER TO STOP THIS
YOU HAVE TO STOP ALL LIVE BROADCAST.
THAT THEN GIVES THE
MONOPOLY BACK TO GIANT MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS.
THEN
YOU COULD DO YOUR SEVEN SECOND DELAY THAT COST SO MUCH MONEY TO
DO ON GIANT BROADCAST NETWORKS.
THERE IS ENORMOUS UPSIDE TO
BEING ABLE TO DO FACEBOOK AND
TWITTER.
WILL IT BE ABUSED BY CRAZY PEOPLE?
OF COURSE NOT SURE
THEY REGULATE THAT AS SOON AS I
CAN?
OF COURSE, AND THEY DID.
EVERYONE IS COOPERATING.
THEY
HAVE A PICTURE OF THE GUY AND
THEY ARE ALL TRYING TO FIND HIM.
I DON'T THINK IT ENCOURAGES
COPYCATS.
THERE WAS A GOT IT WHEN AND SHOT TWO PEOPLE IN THE
MIDDLE OF A LIVE LOCAL TELEVISION NEWS BROADCAST.
SHOULD WE BLAME LOCAL TELEVISION
AND SHUT IT DOWN?
NO, OF COURSE NOT.
LOOK, THERE IS BAD ACTORS
THAT HAVE A POTENTIAL TO RUIN
GOOD THINGS AND IT APPLIES ACROSS SO MANY DIFFERENT FACETS.
WE CAN'T MAKE RULES BASED ON A
TINY PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE.
EVERYONE IS ROOTING FOR THIS GUY
TO BE FOUND.
HE APPARENTLY POSTED ANOTHER VIDEO THAT HE HAS
KILLED DOZENS OF PEOPLE.
AUTHORITIES ARE NOT SURE THEY
BELIEVE HIM.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I WOULD TAKE
IT SERIOUSLY.
HE APPARENTLY SHOT SOMEONE NOT ONLY LIVE, AND HE IS
OBVIOUSLY MENTALLY UNSTABLE, BUT
ALSO BECAUSE IT IS RANDOM BECAUSE OF SOMETHING HIS
GIRLFRIEND DID.
THE GUY IS A CLEAR LUNATIC.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD CHANGE THE WAY FACEBOOK OR THE
INTERNET WORKS.
>>HE IS CONSIDERED TO BE ARMED AND DANGEROUS.
>> THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH HIM AND TOLD HIM TO TURN HIMSELF IN.
BUT WHO IS TO SAY THIS GUY WOULD NOT HAVE JUST SHOT SOMEONE ON
THE STREET WITHOUT FACEBOOK
LIVE.
IN THIS SITUATION MAYBE IT WAS. IS IN THE ZEITGEIST NOW
WHICH BRINGS IT TO PEOPLE'S
ATTENTION WHICH ARE THEN ABLE TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE AUTHORITIES
TO FIND THIS GUY.
THERE ARE AMBIGUITIES ON WHAT SITUATION
DOES FACEBOOK COLLABORATE WITH
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT.
AND
OTHER CASES WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ON
PEOPLE TO MONITOR THEM, THAT IS
A DIFFERENT STORY.
IN THIS VIDEO SPECIFICALLY THERE IS A VIDEO OF
HIM SHOOTING SOMEONE.
LET'S GET HIM.
>> YOU NEED TO GET A WARRANT FOR THAT.
THE REST OF THE CASE IS
UNCLEAR.
IN A CASE LIKE THIS I THINK IT IS FAIRLY CLEAR.
I
THINK THERE IS A LOT OF FEAR
MONGERING GOING AROUND.
>> IF YOU RECALL IN TERMINATOR ñ
HE WENT THROUGH THE PHONE BOOK TO FIND HER.
>> LITTLE-KNOWN FACT, THEY WERE THINKING OF NAMING THE MOVIE THE
PHONEBOOK KILLER.
OF COURSE I MADE THAT UP?
>>BUT I AM TOO GULLIBLE TO KNOW THAT.
NOW I AM LIKE WHAT?
>> BY THE WAY WE WOULD NOT HAVE EVEN KNOWN THE GUY IF HE WOULD
NOT HAVE DONE IT ON FACEBOOK
LIVE.
THE SMALL UPSIDE IS THAT HE DID IT LIVE SO WE IMMEDIATELY
KNOW WHO IT IS.
>> GOVERNING PRINCIPLE ñ DON'T KILL PEOPLE.
IN THIS SITUATION
THIS IS A WAY WE CAN CATCH THEM.
POLICE HAVE VARIOUS AVENUES OF
EVIDENCE.
AT LEAST THERE IS VIDEO OF HIM AND HE WILL BE CAUGHT.
>>I TALK ABOUT KILLERS A LOT ON MURDER WITH FRIENDS.
A LOT OF
THEM ARE EGOMANIACS.
IN THIS
CASE THIS IS A GUY THAT WANTED A LOT OF ATTENTION.
IT SEEMS LIKE
HE WILL HAVE A SWIFT APPREHENSION BECAUSE HE WANTED
THAT SORT OF ATTENTION AND NOTORIETY.
UNFORTUNATELY HE REALLY DID GET IT IN THE END.
>>IT HAS BEEN MY THEORY FOR A LONG TIME NOW THAT WHAT UNITES A
TERRORIST AND MASS SHOOTERS AND GUYS LIKE THIS IS LOOKING FOR
ATTENTION OR GLORY IN ALL THE
WRONG AREAS.
THE KID WHO DID THE SANDY HOOK SHOOTINGS COLLECTED
CLIPPINGS OF OTHER MASS SHOOTERS.
THEY ARE ALL LOOKING
FOR GLORY IN THEIR OWN WAY.
MAYBE HE FEELS LIKE DOING IT
LIFE YOU WILL GET MORE FAMOUS.
>>AT THE VERY LEAST THE GOAL THAT HE WAS UPSET WITH WOULD SEE
IT.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE FACEBOOK, BUT THIS ALIGNS WITH A
LOT OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT CRAZED KILLERS.
THEY WANT PEOPLE TO
KNOW THEIR NAME WHICH IS REALLY TRAGIC.

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