DEMOCRATIC HOUSE CAUCUS, FORMER GOVERNOR HOWARD DEAN, AND 2016
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EVAN. EVAN, FIRST TO YOU.
LOOK, 100 DAYS IS CONSTRUCT. AND IF HE DOES GET HEALTH CARE
OR TAX REFORM PASS THE, NO ONE WILL REMEMBER IF HE GOT IT DONE
IN THE FIRST 100 DAYS OR NOT.
IT'S FAIR TO SAY IT'S NOT AS EASY AS HE THOUGHT IT WAS AND HE
ADMITS IT. >> HE DOES ADMIT BY HIS OWN
ADMISSION, THIS IS HARDER THAN HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
I THINK HE'S IN OVER HIS HEAD. BUT I THINK HIS SUPPORTERS
PRICED THAT INTO THE EXPERIENCE TO A DEGREE AND THAT'S WHY YOU
DON'T SEE HIS SUPPORT BASE SHRINKING TOO FAR.
I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY RELATIVELY SMALL.
IT CERTAINLY HASN'T EXPANDED. THAT'S A PROBLEM.
BUT I THINK PEOPLE WHO SENT DONALD TRUMP TO WASHINGTON, THEY
ARE LOOKING FOR DISRUPTION IN WASHINGTON, AND THEY ARE STILL
WILLING TO LET HIM FIGURE IT OUT.
HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO LAST, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THEY'RE STILL WITH HIM. >> GOVERNOR, HAS THE
PRESIDENT -- HE STILL HAS HIS BASE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> I THINK EVAN IS EXACTLY
RIGHT. I THINK HIS BASE IS HARD CORE.
THEY REALLY -- THEY EXPECTED HIM NOT TO BE TRUTHFUL.
THEY SORT OF KNEW THAT. IT'S BAKED IN.
BUT HIS BASE IS NOT THAT BIG. HE HAS 38% FAVORABILITY.
YOU CAN PEEL A LITTLE MORE OFF OF THAT.
DON'T FORGET RICHARD NIXON HAD A 29% POSITIVITY RATING ON THE DAY
HE RESIGNED IN DISGRACE. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS 9 POINTS AWAY
FROM THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK HE'S
IN OVER HIS HEAD. I AGREE, EVAN'S RIGHT.
>> CONGRESSMAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT, OPPOSING PARTY.
TELL ME WHAT HAS PRESIDENT TRUMP DID THAT YOU THINK IS RECENTLY
YOU KNOW. IT REALLY HAS BEEN A
DISAPPOINTING FIRST 100 DAYS. I THINK PEOPLE FEEL VERY
STRESSED. THE ATTACK ON WOMEN, WOMEN'S
RIGHTS, ON THE ENVIRONMENT. WE'VE SEEN MARCHES BY WOMEN, BY
IMMIGRANTS, BY SCIENTISTS, BY ENVIRONMENTALISTS.
IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO STRETCH TO FIND ANYTHING
POSITIVE IN THE FIRST 100 DAYS. >> GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S
INTERESTING. I CALLED THE PRESIDENT
TRANSPARENT. HIS TWITTER, HE GOES DIRECTLY TO
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OR TO HIS 25, 50 MILLION PEOPLE FOLLOWING.
HE ALSO GIVES A LOT OF INTERVIEWS.
HE SAYS THINGS OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD, WELL, THE JOB WAS A
LOT HARDER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS.
IT'S SORT OF INTERESTING, HE CERTAINLY IS BRINGING US INSIDE
HIS HEAD A LOT. >> WELL, EXCEPT THAT MOST OF THE
STUFF HUFF HE SAYS ON TWITTER I TOTALLY UNTRUE.
I THINK HIS FOLLOWERS KNOW IT. YOU KNOW, I JUST READ A STORY IN
THE MANCHESTER GUARDIAN PRETTY MUCH HOT OFF THE PRESS, IT SAYS
THE BRITISH INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF
HIM -- HIS CAMPAIGN PEOPLE GOING OVER AND MEETING WITH RUSSIAN
AGENTS AND ARRANGING PAYMENT FOR DOING CERTAIN THINGS TO HELP THE
RUSSIANS HACK, TO PAY FOR THE HACKERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE, BUT THE GUARDIAN IS A PRETTY
REPUTABLE PAPER. IF THAT TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE,
HIS PRESIDENCY IS OVER. WHETHER HE GETS IMPEACHED OR NOT
IS IMMATERIAL. HE'LL HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ON THE
WORLD STAGE OR AT HOME. SO, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING
ON HERE THAT'S A BIG DEAL. HE'S IN HOT WATER EVERY DAY.
AND HE'S LASTED A LOT LONGER THAN I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO
BE. I THOUGHT HE'D BE GONE AFTER THE
FIRST TWO OR THREE PRIMARIES. I HAVE NO TRACK RECORD ON
PREDICTION, BUT THE WATER GETS HOTTER AND HOTTER EVERY DAY FOR
THIS GUY. A EVAN, DO YOU THINK HE LIKES
THE JOB? I KNOW HE SAYS IT'S HARDER.
HE MISSES HIS OLD LIFE. IT'S PRETTY EARLY FOR BUYERS'
REMORSE IF YOU MISS YOUR OLD LIFE.
>> YEAH, BUT I CAN SYMPATHIZE TO A SMALL DEGREE HAVING A LIFE
THAT CHANGES VERY QUICKLY. NOT IN THAT SCOPE, OF COURSE.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT HE PROBABLY DOES MISS HIS FORMER LIFE, WHERE
HE HAD ALL THE -- HE HAD MANY TRAPPINGS OF WEALTH AND
PRIVILEGE WITHOUT HALF THE RESPONSIBILITY.
HE'S GOT THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD ON HIS SHOULDERS.
HE'S GOT AN FBI INVESTIGATION INTO HIS CAMPAIGN.
HE'S TRYING TO KEEP QUIET AND HIDDEN HIS VAST FINANCIAL AND
UNDISCLOSED FINAD FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIPS AROUND THE WORLD.
IT'S NO CAKE WALK. >> IT'S INTERESTING,
CONGRESSMAN, THE WAY I THINK HE LOOKS AT THE PRESIDENCY, MY
OBSERVATION, IS THROUGH A BUSINESS CONSTRUCT.
HE THINKS HE'S RUNNING A BIG CORPORATION WHICH IS A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN'S
PUT OUT. WE KNOW IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE
THAT HE WILL BENEFIT ENORMOUSLY FROM THAT TYPE OF TAX PROPOSAL.
GRETA, I WON'T EVER HAVE THIS PROBLEM IN TERMS OF MY HAIR
CHANGING COLOR. BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT OVER AND
OVER AGAIN WITH PRESIDENTS, THE FIRST FOUR YEARS, SECOND FOUR
OF THE UNITED STATES.
HE SHOULDN'T BE THAT SHOCKED. >> GOVERNOR, IT CERTAINLY SEEMS
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF SABER RATTLING WITH A VERY DANGEROUS
COUNTRY, NORTH KOREA. TONIGHT IS A REPORT THEY HAD A
FAILED LAUNCH, NONETHELESS AN ATTEMPTED LAUNCH OF A
SHORT-RANGE MISSILE. THIS IS HIS BIGGEST CHALLENGE.
FRANKLY OTHER PRESIDENTS BEFORE HIM, BUT IT'S GOTTEN SO BAD NOW.
>> RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT NORTH KOREA. HERE'S WHAT SCARES ME ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT'S FOREIGN POLICY. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH SOME OF
THE THINGS HE'S DONE. I WAS GLAD HE MADE THE STATEMENT
HE DID ABOUT CHEMICAL WEAPONS. THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS NO
EVIDENCE THAT HE HAS ANY REAL GAME PLAN.
HE DOES THIS STUFF, MAYBE IT'S GOOD, MAYBE IT'S BAD, BUT
THERE'S NO LONG-TERM STRATEGY HERE.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME VERY NERVOUS.
I THINK MANY OF US SORT OF WHO PAY ATTENTION TO FOREIGN POLICY
ARE RELIEVED THAT JAMES MATTIS IS THE DEFENSE SECRETARY BECAUSE
WE KNOW, EVEN THOUGH HE MAY BE A LITTLE MORE HAWKISH THAN SOME OF
US ARE, WE KNOW THAT HE HAS A PLAN.
WE KNOW THAT HE HAS VAST EXPERIENCE.
DONALD TRUMP HAS NO PLAN. I LAUGHED IN THE BEGINNING AT
THE QUOTE WHEN HE SAID, I'M A GUY WHO PAYS ATTENTION TO
DETAILS. HE DOESN'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF
ANY OF THIS STUFF, AND IT APPEARS OFTEN NOT TO CARE.
SO, I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT NORTH KOREA.
NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE
DO, BUT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS PLAN IS.
AND I DON'T THINK HE KNOWS WHAT HIS PLAN IS.
AND THAT CAN GET YOU IN A LOT OF TROUBLE.
>> EVAN, A LOT OF THE PLANS FROM THE PAST PRESIDENTS IS TO KEEP
EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE TALKING. THE PROBLEM WITH NORTH KOREA,
THEY'VE HAD FIVE NUCLEAR TESTS ALREADY, ANOTHER ONE IS COMING.
WE MAY GET THEM TO THE TABLE TALKING BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING
FORWARD. >> ABSOLUTELY.
WE'VE TAKEN APPROACH, BOTH PARTIES HAVE TAKEN AN APPROACH
OVER THE LAST FEW DECADES THAT HAS NOT YIELDED A POSITIVE
OUTCOME WITH NORTH KOREA. LOOK, I APPRECIATE A STRONGER
STANCE WITH NORTH KOREA. I THINK IT SENDS THE RIGHT
MESSAGE TO CHINA. CHINA IS THE KEY IN ALL OF THIS
TO A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION. I LIKED A LOT OF WHAT TILLERSON
SAID TODAY, TAKING THE PRESSURE OFF CHINA AND NORTH KOREA, AT
LEAST ATTEMPTING TO WITH REGARD TO UNIFICATION OF THE KOREAN
PENINSULA AND THE GOAL OF NOT HAVING THE GOAL OF REGIME
CHANGE, THESE KINDS OF THINGS. I THINK THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF
THE RIGHT MOVES. OF COURSE, THEN I GET A LITTLE
NERVOUS WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP SEEMINGLY ON A WHIM SAYS WE MAY
BE HEADED FOR A MAJOR, MAJOR CONFLICT.
THAT'S THE KIND OF STATEMENT THAT HAS TO BE VERY CAREFULLY
CALCULATED AND I'M NOT SURE IT