IN THAT SHE'S BEING HONORED FOR
ONE THING AND THEN SOME OF HER
FANS THINKS SHE'S DOING
SOMETHING THAT COMPLETELY --
HARVEY: TAKES THE HONOR AWAY.
CHARLES: THAT HAS TO DO WITH HER
NEW SONG WITH MIGOS.
A SONG CALLED "BON APPETIT" BUT
SOME OF HER FANS THINK THAT IS A
BAD MOVE BECAUSE MIGOS RECENTLY
HAS BEEN -- THEY'VE GOTTEN
ATTACKED FOR SAYING SOME HOME
FOLK -- HOMOPHOBIC THINGS.
HARVEY: QUAVEPOS MADE A COMMENT
ABOUT A RAPPER WHO'S JUST COME
OUT AT AS GAY SAYING THERE'S
SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE WORLD.
SAYING THIS IS A REALLY BAD
THINGS -- THING.
CHARLES: HE'S SINCE APOLOGIZED.
HARVEY: BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME
HARD FEELINGS ABOUT IT AND KAYTE
COMING OUT WITH A SONG WITH
MIGOS AIN'T SITTING WELL.
VAN: KATY ACCEPTED NATIONAL
HUMAN QUALITY AWARD AT A HUMAN
RIGHTS THING.
SHE'S VERY OUTSPOKEN ON ISSUES
DEALING WITH THE LGBT COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WONDERING
HOW YOU MANAGE THAT AT THE SAME
TIME WITH THE MIGOS.
ALTHOUGH, THE MIGOS SAID WHAT
THEY SAID AND YOU CAN APOLOGIZE
FOR THINGS AND CAN'T TAKE THEM
BACK BUT NO ONE IS ONLY GAYED TO
GIVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE.
BUT THEY HAD A TEACHABLE MOMENT
WHEN THEY SAW JUST HOW MANY OF
THEIR OWN FANS WERE OFFENDED BY
WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT MCCONAN AND
I THINK THEY LEARNED SOMETHING
FROM IT.
HARVEY: THROUGH -- BUT THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE ABOUT WHAT THEY
LEARNED ON THEIR OWN AND HOW
THEY'RE KIND OF RETHINKING THIS
STUFF.
FOR SOME PEOPLE IN THE LGBT
COMMUNITY, THEY LOOK AT AND IT
SAY FOR KATY WHO EMBRACE IT THAT
EARLY --
CHARLES: WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM
HER PEOPLE YET BUT I WOULD THINK
SHE ALSO COULD KEEP THE
TEACHABLE MOMENT GOING.
HARVEY: I MEAN, THAT'S TRUE.
CHARLES: I DON'T KNOW, WHILE
THEY WERE IN STUDIO, MAYBE KATY
HAD A CONVERSATION -- IT DEPENDS
ON THE TIMING OF WHEN CAVEOS
MADE THOSE COMMENTS AND WHEN
THEY WERE IN THE STUDIO.
KATY COULD SAY LISTEN, DO YOU
UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS
OFFENSIVE?
VAN: BY THE WAY, IT'S GAVEO.
THERE'S NO S ON THE END OF IT.
THERE ARE NOT MULTIPLE CAVEOS.
THERE'S ONE.
CHARLES: HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE
AREN'T MORE OUT THERE?
VAN: THERE COULD BE BUT THIS IS
NOT.
JUST ONE.
HARVEY: ISN'T THERE A JOSE
QUAVEPOS.
VAN: IT'S JOSE GAVEO.
HARVEY: I GOT THAT ONE WRONG
TOO.
NO WONDER THEY GET MY ORDER
WRONG ALL THE TIME.
GIVING ME DOUBLES.
VAN: HOW LONG DO YOU GIVE PEOPLE
THE --
CHARLES: I DON'T THINK SO THEY
MAKE AN ERNEST ATTEMPT -- ERNEST
ATTEMPT --
HARVEY: I SEE THIS TOTALLY
DIFFERENT LIP.
I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS
OF LIFE.
SPORTS AND RAM COME TO MIND
IMMEDIATELY WHERE I DON'T THINK
THERE'S BEEN ANY TOLERANCE UNTIL
FAIRLY RECENTLY AND I THINK AS
THE TOLERANCE EVOLVES AND IT'S
MUCH SLOWER THAN A LOT OF THE
REST OF THE COUNTRY, I THINK
PEOPLE ARE MORE FORGIVING
BECAUSE IT'S NEVER BEEN ANYTHING
OTHER THAN HOMOPHOBIC AND AS IT
STARTS TO GET BETTER --
CHARLES: HE'S AGREEING WITH
EVERYTHING I SAID.
VAN: IT'S THE SAME THING.
YOU JUST WENT INTO THE HEFT --
HISTORY OF RAP AND BASKETBALL,
WHICH WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TIME TO
GET INTO.
CALLER: I THINK THE PROBLEM THAT
MOST KATY PERRY FANS HAD WITH
THIS ISSUE THAT SHE'S SO "WOKE"
RIGHT NOW THAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO
HAVE THIS VOICE TO SUPPOSEDLY
USE AND THEN AUTOMATIC DEMRI
COLLABORATE WITH MIGOS.
HOWEVER, I THINK LABELING MIKEOS
HOMOPHOBIC JUST OFF OF THOSE
COMMENTS, WE DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE -- IT MAKES KATY PERRY
LOOK LIKE A HYPOCRITE TO HER
FRIEND.