Protester Suing Donald Trump Over Rally Violence Speaks Out | For The Record

>>> PRESIDENT TRUMP FIGHTING ANOTHER LAWSUIT.
THIS ONE CLAIMING THE PRESIDENT INCITED VIOLENCE AT HIS CAMPAIGN
RALLY. WHAT'S THE PRESIDENT'S DEFENSE?
HE SAYS PEOPLE HAVE NO RIGHT TO PROTEST HIM AT HIS OWN EVENT.
IT ALL HAPPENED AT LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY LAST YEAR.
>> IF I SAY DON'T HURT HIM -- [ INAUDIBLE ].
GET OUT OF HERE! >> A NEW FILING FROM TRUMP'S
LAWYERS ASKS A JUDGE TO TOSS THE LAWSUIT CLAIMING, OF COURSE,
PROTESTERS HAVE THEIR OWN FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO EXPRESS
DISSENTING VIEWS, BUT THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO SO AS PART OF
CAMPAIGN RALLY OF THE POLITICAL CANDIDATES THEY OPPOSE.
THIS STEMS FROM THIS LAWSUIT FILED A YEAR AGO IN LOUISVILLE,
KENTUCKY. THESE THREE PROTESTERS ARE SUING
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THREE OF HIS SUPPORTERS FOR ASSAULT.
SAYING THOSE TRUMP SUPPORTERS ASSAULTED THEM AT HIS DIRECTION
FROM THE STAGE. >> GET THEM OUT.
GET THEM OUT. OH, LOOK WHO WE HAVE HERE, SOME
WONDERFUL PEOPLE. AH!
NOW GET OUT OF HERE. GET OUT.
GET OUT OF HERE. >> NOW, WE DON'T HAVE VIDEO OF
TWO OF THE PLAINTIFFS, BUT HERE'S ONE OF THEM.
YOU CAN SEE HER BEING PUSHED THROUGH THE CROWD BY ALVIN, THE
VETERAN IN THE BLACK HAT. THIS MAN WHITE NATIONALIST MAGTS
YU WEARING A MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN HAT IS ALSO ACCUSED OF
ASSAULTING THE PROTESTERS. BOTH MEN SAY THEY WERE SIMPLY
FOLLOWING TRUMP'S ORDERS TO REMOVE PEOPLE.
NOW THE PRESIDENT'S TEAM WANTS ALL OF THIS THROWN OUT SAYING NO
ONE HAD THE RIGHT TO PROTEST HIM BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES
TRAMPLING ON HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTSRIGHTS.
JOINING ME IS ONE OF THE PLAINTIFFS, HENRY, SUING
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE SUPPORTERS FOR ASSAULT.
AND GREG BELLSLY, HIS LAWYER JOINING US.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US. FIRST TO YOU, HENRY.
WHY DID YOU GO -- DID YOU GO THERE TO PROTEST?
>> I WENT THERE TO EXPRESS MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
THAT'S AN AMERICAN TRADITION AND I WANTED TO TAKE PART.
I DISAGREED WITH WHAT HE HAD BEEN SAYING THROUGHOUT THE
CAMPAIGN AS MOST AMERICANS HAD. AND I WANTED TO GET MY VOICE
HEARD. I WANTED TO SAY IF I COULD
CHANGE ANY PEOPLE'S OPINIONS. >> WHAT HAPPENED, HOW WERE YOU
ASSAULTED? >> OH, WELL, I UNFURLED MY
BANNER. SOMEBODY WITH A TRADITIONAL
WORKERS PARTY, NEO-NAZI ORGANIZATION GRABBED THE BAND
OUT OF MY SIGN AND PUNCHED ME IN THE STOMACH.
>> GREG, YOU BROUGHT THIS LAWSUIT.
TELL ME, WHERE IS IT FILED? >> THIS LAWSUIT WAS FILED IN
FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY.
>> AND WHAT -- TELL ME HOW YOU EXPECT THIS TO PROCEED.
>> WELL, AT THIS POINT THE JUDGE HAS DENIED MR. TRUMP'S MOTIONS
TO DISMISS THE CASE. HE HAS ORDERED THAT THE PARTIES
PROVIDE HIM WITH A PROPOSED ORDER SETTING PRETRIAL
DEADLINES. MR. TRUMP'S LAWYERS, HOWEVER,
HAVE JUST RECENTLY FILED A MOTION ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO
TAKE JUDGE HAIL'S RULINGS IMMEDIATELY ON APPEAL TO THE 6th
CIRCUIT. >> HENRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT
OF THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT WAS SOMEONE SUPPOSED TO DO IF THERE
IS A PROTESTER THERE DISRUPTING A RALLY, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT?
IF THIS WERE A CANDIDATE YOU LIKED.
>> WELL, YOU COULD DISAGREE WITH THEM RESPECTFULLY.
YOU DON'T PUT HANDS ON THEM, YOU DON'T SHOVE THEM, YOU DON'T MOVE
THEM AGGRESSIVELY. >> I ASSUME, WERE YOU YELLING
THINGS OR NOT, WERE YOU DISRUPTING AT ALL?
>> WE WERE SAYING BLACK LIVES MATTER.
IT WAS A HUGE ROOM. YOU COULD STILL HEAR WHAT HE WAS
SAYING. WE WEREN'T DISRUPTING VERY MUCH.
BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT THEY DID.
>> THE FIRST AMENDMENT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT AROUND THE EDGES.
LOOK, I'M A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
I'M TAKING IT A LITTLE FURTHER. DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT
YOU DID? >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
WHAT WE DID. MR. TRUMP SAYS HE HAS A FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHT TO SAY WHAT HE WANTS AND WE DON'T.
THAT'S WHERE I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH HIM.
>> GREG, LET ME ASK YOU, IS THERE ANY SORT OF -- WHEN YOU
LOOK AT YOUR LAWSUIT, THAT IS SEEN THAT YOUR CLIENT WAS SORT
OF AN INVITED GUEST IN THERE ASKED TO LEAVE?
THE ASSAULT THING, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LAY YOUR HANDS ON
SOMEBODY. THAT'S ASSAULT, I GOT THAT.
IS THERE ANY ASPECT OF THIS YOUR CLIENT -- HE WASN'T ON THE
STREET. THIS WAS INSIDE A RALLY.
I ASSUME THE CAMPAIGN PAID FOR THE VENUE.
>> WELL, THAT'S CORRECT, GRETA. I MEAN, THIS WAS A PUBLIC EVENT.
I MEAN, TICKETS WERE SOLD TO THE PUBLIC.
THERE WAS NO LITMUS TEST AT THE DOOR AND THEY WERE LETTING
PEOPLE IN WHO WANTED TO ATTEND THE RALLY GENERALLY.
AS HENRY SAID, IT'S AN AMERICAN TRADITION.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT THERE IS TO PROTECT NOT THE KIND OF SPEECH
WE ALL WANT TO HEAR. THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS THERE TO
PROTECT PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THINGS WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR AND
THE FOUNDING FATHERS UNDERSTOOD THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT THE FIRST
AMENDMENT IS THERE FOR. >> AND, SO, HOW -- EXPLAIN TO ME
THE CAUSATION ASPECT OF IT. I GOT THE PEOPLE LAYING HANDS ON
YOUR CLIENT. I GOT THAT.
THAT'S ASSAULT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH SOMEONE FOR ASSAULT.
WHAT IS THE CAUSE FOR THE PRESIDENT SAYING GET THEM OUT OF
HERE? >> YOU CAN'T JUST START IN
ISOLATION AT THE LOUISVILLE RALLY.
FOR WEEKS BEFOREHAND, HE WAS MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT PROTESTERS
BEING TAKEN OUT ON STRETCHERS. HE WAS OFFERING TO PAY HIS
SUPPORTERS' LEGAL FEES. HE HAD THE BEST SEAT IN THE
HOUSE TO SEE WHAT EFFECT HIS RHETORIC WAS HAVING ON THE
AUDIENCE. AND YOU AND OTHERS IN THE MEDIA
WERE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF REPORTING WHAT WAS HAPPENING
THERE. UNLESS HE WAS LIVING IN A
BUBBLE, HE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN UNAWARE OF WHAT EFFECT HIS
RHETORIC WAS HAVING ON PEOPLE. AND EVEN IN THE TAPE YOU'RE
PLAYING, YOU CAN HEAR THE ANGER AND THE VENOM IN HIS VOICE.
AND THIS IS JUST UNPRECEDENTED CONDUCT BY A CANDIDATE FOR THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND HE NEEDS TO BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE. >> NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
HURT TO GET AN ASSAULT, BUT I'M CURIOUS, WERE YOU HURT AT ALL?
>> YES, I WAS PUNCHED. I WAS SORE SEVERAL DAYS, GAVE ME
ANXIETY. >> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
FOLLOW. IT'S AN INTERESTING CASE.
THE INTERESTING ASPECT TO ME WILL BE THE CAUSATION EFFECT.

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