Trump White House defends Comments On Whereabouts Of Navy Ships | The 11th Hour

>>> WELL, GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN FROM OUR HEAD QUARTERS IN
NEW YORK. THIS WAS DAY 90 OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. WHEN HE SAID LAST WEEK HE WAS
SENDING AN ARMODA, WHILE WE HADN'T HEARD THAT WORD IN A LONG
TIME AND CONJURED SAILING SHIPS MORE THAN BATTLE SHIPS, IT MADE
SENSE IN RESPONSE TO THE PROVOCATION AGAINST NORTH KOREA.
AND HE MADE POINT ABOUT THE SUBMARINES BEING MORE POWERFUL
THAN THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER AND AS NUCLEAR WEAPONS LAUNCH
PLATFORMS, THEY ARE BUT WE DON'T NORMALLY DISCUSS THE MOVEMENT OF
OUR SUBMARINES. THE PHRASE RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP
COMES TO MIND. BUT WHEN HIS DEFENSE SECRETARY
AND NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR SAID IT, THEY WERE ALL WRONG.
THE CARRIER CARL VINCENT AND THE STRIKE GROUP THAT SAILS WITH IT,
THEY WERE THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY AND STEAMING CLEAR IN THE
OTHER DIRECTION. HERE IS THE ADMINISTRATION LAST
WEEK ON ALL THIS VERSES WHAT WE HEARD TODAY.
>> WHY THE CARRIER STRIKE FORCE TO THE KOREAN PENINSULA?
>> WELL, IT'S PRUDENT TO DO IT. THE PRESIDENT HAS ASKED US TO BE
PREPARED TO GIVE HIM A FULL RANGE OF OPTIONS.
>> WE ARE SENDING AN ARMODA. VERY POWERFUL.
WE HAVE SUBMARINES, VERY POWERFUL.
FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER.
I CAN TELL YOU.
>> WHEN YOU SEE A CARRIER GROUP, THE FULL PRESENCE IS THROUGH
ALMOST EVERY INSTANCE A HUGE DETRANCE.
>> AS FAR AS THE MOVEMENT OF THE VINCENT, SHE'S STATIONED IN THE
WESTERN PACIFIC FOR A REASON. SHE'S JUST ON HER WAY UP THERE
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WAS MOST PRUDE TONIGHT HAVE
HER AT THIS TIME. >> THE VINCENT SAILS UP AND DOWN
THE PACIFIC ROUTINELY. AND SO I WOULD NOT READ ANYTHING
INTO THE CARL VINCENT'S CURRENT LOCATIONS.
>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS IN OUR EFFORT TO ALWAYS BE OPEN, WE
SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE THE VINCENT'S UPCOMING
SCHEDULE. SHE'S GOING TO CONTINUE PART OF
HER CRUISE DOWN IN THAT REGION. BUT SHE WAS ON HER WAY UP TO
KOREA. >> THE PRESIDENT SAID WE HAVE AN
ARMADA GOING TOWARDS THE PENINSE
LU -- WE SAID IT WAS HEADING THERE AND IT WAS.
WHAT PART IS MISLEADING? >> WHAT'S MISLEADING IS PEOPLE
THOUGHT IT WAS HEADING THERE NOW AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE THERE
WEEKS LATER. >> I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION BUT
WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT IT WAS GOING.
IT WILL BE THERE. WE WERE ASKED SIMPLY A QUESTION
ON THAT. I THINK ALL OTHER QUESTIONS
SHOULD BE ASKED OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.
>> MEANWHILE ON THE HEELS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT ON WHETHER TO
STAY IN THE IRAN DEAL, SECRETARY OF STATE REX TILLERSON TODAY
TURNED UP THE RHETORIC ON IRAN
AND SAID THE DEAL QUOTE FAILS TO ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVE OF A
NONNUCLEAR IRAN. HE WAS PRESSED ON THOSE COMMENT
SAID BY OUR OWN ANDREA MITCHELL AND AN EXPLAINER.
YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR SEC ARE EITARY TILLERSON REFER TO THE
IRAN DEAL BY THE CHUNKIER DEAL THE ACRUNIM FOR JOINT
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF ACTION. >> I THINK RILTSER IMPORTANT IN
ANY CONVERSATION ON JCPLA AND I THINK THIS WAS ONE OF THE
MISTAKES IN HOW THAT AGREEMENT WAS PUT TOGETHER IS THAT IT
COMPLETELY IGNORED ALL OF THE OTHER SERIOUS THREATS THAT IRAN
POSES. IT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF BUYING
OFF A POWER WHO HAS NUCLEAR AMBITIONS.
WE BUY THEM OFF FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND SOMEONE HAS
TO DEAL WITH IT LATER. WE JUST DON'T SEE THAT IS A
PRUDENT WAY TO BE DEALING WITH IRAN.
CERTAINLY NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THEIR OTHER DISRUPTIVE
ACTIVITY SAID. >> LET'S BRING IN THE MEMBERS OF
TONIGHT'S STARTING PANEL. FORMER JOINT CHIEF OF STAFF
DURING THE OBAMA YEARS AND MSNBC
CHIEF CORRESPONDENT BY DAY FROM WASHINGTON TONIGHT.
JEREMY, THE CARRIER STORY IS A SECOND DAY STORY BECAUSE OF THIS
INSISTENCE THAT IT WAS THIS SPECIAL KIND OF DELAYED REACTION
ARMADA, THAT WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE'RE SENDING AN ARMADA, HE
MEANS THE ONE THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY AND GOING IN THE OTHER
DIRECTION. PLEASE TELL ME FOR STARTERS THE
NAVY HAS THE GPS TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE IN THE DASH BORD OF A
CHEVROLET. >> PUT DIFFERENTLY WHEN A
CARRIER GOES EAST, IT WILL EVENTUALLY FIND ITS WAY
THOUSANDTHER SIDE OF THE GLOBE. THIS WAS A TERRIBLE MISTAKE.
A DROPPED BALL IN COMMUNICATION FOR CERTAIN.
BUT REALLY WHAT WAS -- IT WAS AN ATTEMPT BY THE PRESIDENT TO TAKE
CREDIT FOR SOMETHING THAT HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH.
HE WASN'T EVEN CONSULTED ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF THEM CARL
VINCENT CARRIER STRIKE GROUP. THE WHITE HOUSE ONLY FOUND OUT
WHEN THE NAVY ISSUED ITS PRESS GUIDANCE.
SO NOT ONLY WAS FACTUALLY INCORRECT BUT WAS THE VERY
OPPOSITE OF PRESENCE. PRESENCE MEANS FORCED POSTURE
FORWARD. THAT'S A DETERRENT FACTOR IN
FORCING AN ADVERSARY TO DO SOMETHING YOU WANT IT TO DO.
THIS WAS ABSENCE. WE WEREN'T EVEN THERE AND SO OUR
ALLIES TONIGHT ARE QUESTIONING OUR RESOLVE IN THIS PARTICULAR
CRISIS. >> AND THIS IS AS JEREMY POINTS
OUT MORE THAN A MESSAGING FOUL UP.
I HEARD SOMEONE REFER TO THIS AS THE BROKEN WATCH THEORY OF
CARRIER STRIKE GROUPS. TWICE A DAY SOMEWHERE THERE'S A
CARRIER STRIKE GROUP AT LEAST IN THE DIRECTION OF THE KOREAN
PENINSULA. THIS WAS A MESSAGE SENT OUT.
A LOT OF NATIONS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ANXIOUS TO KNOW
WHAT'S IN THEIR WATERS. SEA OF JAPAN, CHINA AND SO ON.
>> NOT JUST OUR ALLIES AND NEIGHBORS BUT OUR 28,000 TROOPS
STATIONED IN SOUTH KOREA. THIS TONE HAS RATCHETED UP
HIGHER THAN A LONG TIME. AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE NIXON
ADMINISTRATION. EVERYBODY HAS COME IN ALL HOT
ABOUT WHAT WATHEY'RE GOING GOINO ABOUT NORTH KOREA AND
EVERYBODY'S ENDED UP WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN.
WE'VE GOT SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN LOOKING FOR THAT BACK UP.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT SENDING THEM, JUST DON'T SAY YOU'RE SENDING
THEM. THEY KEPT ON TALKING ABOUT THE
WESTERN PACIFIC. IT'S A ROUND GLOBE.
THE WESTERN PACIFIC IS A VERY, VERY BIG NONSPECIFIC AREA.
AGAIN IS IT A COMMUNICATION FOUL UP?
WAS IT DELIBERATELY NOT MEANT TO BE SPECIFIC?
WE'VE HEARD SEA OF JAPAN AND KOREA.
BUT THIS IS -- IT'S WEIRD. IT'S DAMAGING AND IT CAN'T
POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN CALCULATED TO HAVE GOOD EFFECT.
NOT WITH STANDING THAT NORTH KOREA THOUGHT THE WAS AN ARMADA
HEADING TOWARDS THEM AND NOW THEY FOUND OUT IT ISN'T.
IT'S BAD MESSAGING ALL THE WAY AROUND.
>> AND NOW WE COME TO THE SUBJECT OF IRAN.
IF YOU EXPLAIN TO THE FOLKS WATCHING WHAT IT IS THEY'RE NOW
SAYING ON IRAN AND BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS ON GUARD FOR SHINY
SUBJECTS. >> I THINK THE PRESIDENT WANTS
TO DELIVER ON THE PROMISE TO RIP UP THE DEAL BUT THE IT REALITY
IS IT'S HARD TO RIP UP A DEAL THAT SIX NATIONS PLUS THE IT
U.S. NEGOTIATED AND BEFORE MIDNIGHT LAST NIGHT THEY DID
WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO CERTIFY EVERY 90 DAYS OF CONGRESS THAT
IRAN IS COMPLYING OR NOT AND WHAT THEY CERTIFIED IS IRAN IS
LIVING UP TO IT. IT'S NOT CHEATING ON THE NUCLEAR
DEAL. SO NOW THEY ARE AMPING UP OR
RAISING THE ANTE LET'S SAY AND SUGGESTING THAT THE BAD THINGS
IRAN DOES IS ON THE STATE SPONSOR OF TERROR LIST.
IT NOT ONLY SUPPORTS TERRORISM AROUND THE MIDDLE EAST AND
AROUND THE GLOBE. SO THERE'S A LOT AGAINST IRAN
RIGHT NOW, THOUGHT ONLY TERRORISM BUT ARRESTING U.S.
CITIZENS. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW INSTANCES
WHERE THIS STATE DEPARTMENT AND THIS PRESIDENT IS TALKING ABOUT
HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES. THE PRESIDENT JUST PRAISED
ERDOGAN. WELCOMED ALSISI TO THE OVAL
OFFICE AND NEVER CRITICIZES PUTIN AND WENT TO BEJING WITHOUT
THE PRESS CORE. AND IN THIS CASE THEY ARE
REAMING IRAN FOR ITS HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES.
THE DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THE U.S. AND THE OTHER FIVE COUNTRIES
WALLED OFF ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS.
THEY SAID IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO STOP IRAN FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS.
THEY'RE THREE MONTHS TO A YEAR AWAY FROM ACHIEVING THATHAT
TERRIBLE GOAL. SO WE WILL IGNORE EVERYTHING
ELSE BAD THAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE STILL SANCTIONS BY THE
U.S. FOR HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES. THE U.S. STILL HAS THESE OTHER
SANCTIONS BUT WE WILL FOCUS ON THIS NUCLEAR ISSUE AND IF THEY
DON'T HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON OR MISSILES WILL BE LESS DANGEROUS
BUT WE'RE STILL SANCTIONING THEM FOR THAT.
AND TO SAY THEY'RE IN THE SAME CATEGORY IS JUST NOT ACCURATE.
NORTH KOREA HAS 13 TO 30 NUCLEAR BOMBS.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT. ANDREA'S LAST POINT WHEN YOU SEE
AND HEAR THE SECRETARY OF STATE, IT CAN BE SCARY TO AMERICANS
USED TO LIVING IN A SCARY WORLD WHEN YOU HEAR IRAN COULD TURN
INTO NORTH KOREA. THE DIFFERENCE TODAY OF COURSE
NORTH KOREA HAS NUKES. IS THAT HIPERBLY OR HELPFUL?
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THE NEW TEAM WAS BROOEFED ON WAS THE
CENTRIFUGE.
THEY WERE SPINNING AND COVERTLY MARCHING TOWARDS A NUCLEAR
WEAPON. AT THAT TIME ALL THE ASSESSMENTS
SAID WE ARE A YEAR TO MAYBE 18 MONTHS AWAY FROM THEM BEING ABLE
TO CREATE A BOMB. THAT IN IT SFL IS A SUCCESS IN
PART DUE TO OUR ACTIVITIES AND DIPLOMACY TOWARDS STALLING THEIR
CAPABILITIES. I DON'T THINK THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE NEED TO WORRY THAT IRAN HAS A N NUCLEAR WEAPON TONIGHT.
HOWEVER, IF WE WERE TO WALK AWAY FROM THE NUCLEAR DEAL, WE WOULD
ESSENTIALLY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF SIX OTHER COUNTRIES AND IT'S
NOT LEADERSHIP WHEN YOU STEP THROUGHOUT AND NO ONE'S
FOLLOWING YOU. WE DID THIS DEAL WITH OTHER
COUNTRIES. IF WE WERE TO IMPOSE SANCTIONS
AGAIN, THEN IRAN WOULD FEEL FREE TO ABRUIGATE AND SPIN THE
CENTRIFUGES AGAIN AND MARCH TOWARDS A BOMB.
WE HAVE MANY OTHER WAYS TO GET TOUGH ON THEM TOWARDS TERRORISM
AND WE SHOULD DO THAT. >> DO YOU SEE A FOREIGN POLICY
IN HERE? >> IT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE
IRAN, UNLIKE NORTH KOREA IS EXPANSIONIST.
INFLUENCE OUTSIDE ITS OWN BORDERS.
WHAT WE LEARNED WITH RUSSIA IS IT'S COMPLICATED.
WE NEED THEM FOR SOME THINGS WE DON'T WANT THEM FOR OTHER
THINGS. WE REALLY NEED THEM FOR NORTH
KOREA. WE REALLY DO HAVE TO HAVE A MORE
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. THIS WAS A COMPLICATED DEAL BUT
EVERYBODY INCLUDING PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THEN SECRETARY OF
STATE KERRY UNDERSTOOD WE WEREN'T TACKLING BROADER ISSUES.
WE NEED TO TAMP DOWN THE HEAT IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
IT'S RISEN IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND THIS KIND OF TALK
DOESN'T NECESSARILY HELP. >> ANDREA, I WANT YOU TO REACT
TO THE FOLLOWING. WILY GIES TALKING TO SENATOR
LINDSEY GRAHAM OF A PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE ON NORTH KOREA.
>> THEY'RE CLOSE TO GETTING A MISTOOL HIT THE HOMELAND.
NOW IS THE TIME TO STOP -- >> A PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE?
>> IF THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW, WITH MY
VOTE, NORTH KOREA TO DEVELOP A MISSILE TO HIT AMERICA.
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. CHINA CAN STOP IT IF THEY WANT
TO. IF THEY DON'T, I THINK PRESIDENT
TRUMP WILL. >> GIVE US A REALITY CHECK.
>> WELL, LINDSEY GRAHAM IS A LEADING MEMBER OF THE ARMED
SERVICES COMMITTEE AND HE AND JOHN McCAIN ARE TALKING TO THE
PRESIDENT AND INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE BUT LAST THURSDAY I BELIEVE ON
YOUR PROGRAM, BRYAN, WARNED THIS JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
A PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE -- FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL OF
THEIR NUKES ARE. THEY HAVE MOBILE LAUNCHERS.
WHAT WOULD THEN HAPPEN IS THE ARTILLERY -- THE PEOPLE WITHIN
ARTILLERY RANGE OF THE CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS, IF NOT
INTACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS, THE INSTANT RETALIATION COULD WIPE
OUT SEOUL. WE HAVE A LOT OF AMERICANS
LIVING THERE, TO SAY NOTHING OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN JAPAN.
>> AND A WORD ABOUT OUR LONG SUFFERING INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY. ANYONE WHO'S DOWNLOADED THE
AMERICANS KNOWS THAT WITH ANY LUCK YOU CAN INJECT PEOPLE AND
HAVE HUMAN INTELLIGENCE SOURCES. IT TAKES A LONG TIME AND IT'S
BETTER TO BE LUCKY THAN GOOD. NORTH KOREA IS DIFFERENT.
YOU CAN TRY EYES ABOVE BUT EVERYTHING IS IN A HARDENED
BUNKER. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN INJECT AN
AMERICAN WHO'S GOING TO SEND BACK RELIABLE INTELLIGENCE.
TO THE POINT IT'S A GAME OF WACK AMOLE, THAT TARGET LIST WOULD BE
SEEMINGLY ENDLESS. >> YEAH.
IT'S VERY HARD TO KNOW BASED ON THE CLOSED NATURE OF THAT
SOCIETY PRECISELY THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR CAPABILITIES.
AND HERE'S THE POINT, BRIAN IS THAT IF I WERE IN THE WHITE
HOUSE, I COULD ONLY IN GOOD CONSCIENCE RECOMMEND PRE-EMPTIVE
MILITARY ACTION IF WE KNEW THEY WERE TAKING IT, MINIATURIZING
IT, PUTTING ON TOP OF AN ICBM THAT COULD HIT THE UNITED
STATES. IN THAT CASE, WE WOULD HAVE TO
TAKE PRE-EMPTIVE MILITARY ACTION BUT SO COMP REHENCELY TO DEFEND
SEOUL. >> JUST ONE QUICK POINT ABOUT
IRAN. THEY HAVE AN ELECTION NEXT MONTH
AND SENATOR CORKER AND DEMOCRATS ON THE FOREIGN RELATIONS
COMMITTEE DELIBERATELY PULLED BACK ON ACTION ON SANCTIONS
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT IRAN TO GET MORE RADICAL IN ITS ELECTION
NEXT MONTH. >> IT'S A POINT I HEARD YOU MAKE
ON THE AIR EARLIER TONI

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