SIDE OF THE BILL NOW TO DIVE INTO WHAT JUST WENT DOWN.
JOINING ME, CHRIS COLLINS WHO VOTED FOR THE HEALTH CARE BILL
THIS AFTERNOON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
ME. >> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
>> I WANT TO AND ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE.
WHEN OBAMACARE WAS FIRST BEING CREATED, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK
ABOUT NOT BEING TRANSPARENT ENOUGH.
TAKE A LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR LEADERSHIP SAID BACK THEN.
>> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PASS BILLS THAT WE HAVEN'T READ, WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COST. >> WE'RE LEFT WITH PARTY LINE
VOTES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT A COUPLE OF SWEETHEART DEALS TO
GET IT OVER THE FINISH LINE, IN A TRULY OUTRAGED PUBLIC.
>> AND LOOK HOW THIS BILL WAS WRITTEN.
CAN YOU SAY IT WAS DONE OPENLY WITH TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY? WITHOUT BACK ROOM DEALS STRUCK
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS? HIDDEN FROM THE PEOPLE?
HELL NO, YOU CAN'T. HAVE YOU READ THE BILL?
HAVE YOU READ RECONCILIATION BILL?
HAVE YOU READ THE MANAGERS AMENDMENT?
HELL, NO, YOU HAVEN'T. >> YOU CAN JUST CHANGE THEIR
NAMES AND I FEEL LIKE I CAN HEAR EXACTLY THE SAME CRITICISM
COMING FROM DEMOCRATS TODAY. WHAT IS THE DEAL, CONGRESSMAN?
THERE'S NO CBO SCORE ON THIS BILL.
THIS WAS A PARTY LINE VOTE. A SLIM MAJORITY AT THAT.
SWEETHEART DEALS. WE HAD THE UPTON AMENDMENT, $8
BILLION YESTERDAY AFTER UPTON MET WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
50% OF AMERICANS ARE NOT CONFIDENT IN THIS BILL.
IT SOUNDS JUST LIKE WHAT YOUR REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP SAID BACK
THEN. >> I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE.
WE'VE BEEN ON THIS BILL FOR OVER SIX YEARS.
EVER SINCE OBAMACARE CAME IN, WE'VE BEEN PASSING BILLS AND
MARKING UP BILLS THAT THEN CAME TOGETHER INTO WHAT WE NOW CALL
THE AMERICAN HEALTH CARE ACT. BUT THIS WAS NOT DONE OVER A
TWO-WEEK OR A THREE-WEEK PERIOD. THIS HAS BEEN SIX YEARS OF HARD
WORK AS WE KNEW OBAMACARE WOULD FAIL AND FAILING AND FAIL IT
HAS. WAVE CBO SCORE SAVING WELL OVER
$100 BILLION. SURE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
TWEAKS AT THE END. WE'LL GET A FINAL SCORE THAT MAY
KNOCK A COUPLE PERCENT OFF THAT BUT WE'RE COMFORTABLE THAT WE
KNOW THERE'S HUGE SAVINGS. BY THE TIME THE SENATE IS
WORKING WITH THIS, WE WILL HAVE THE FINAL SCORE.
SO SAVINGS OVER $100 BILLION. GUARANTEED COST SAVINGS WHEN IT
COMES TO PREMIUMS OF 10%. A BILL WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR
YEARS. SO THIS IS SO VERY DIFFERENT
THAN WHAT HAPPENED WITH OBAMACARE.
AND OF COURSE WE HAD A PARTY LINE VOTE.
THERE'S NO WAYER NANCY PELOSI WOULD LET A SINGLE MEMBER OF THE
CONFERENCE VOTE TO REPEAL OBAMACARE.
>> WASN'T JUST A PARTY LINE VOTE.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS.
20 REPUBLICANS. >> WE HAD PEOPLE IN% OF OUR
CONFERENCE ON BOARD. 93%.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STATES LIKE NEW JERSEY, CALIFORNIA AND
PENNSYLVANIA WHICH ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN MISSISSIPPI,
LOUISIANA, FLORIDA AND TEXAS. >> DO THOSE REPUBLICAN VOTERS
NOT MATTER IN THOSE STATES? >> EVERYONE MATTERS.
ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL. WE DID HAVE 20 MEMBERS, FOR ONE
REASON OR ANOTHER. SOME FROM THE FREEDOM CAUCUS,
SOME FROM THE TUESDAY GROUP, SOME NOT IN EITHER GROUP.
BUT WE HAVE 93% COME TOGETHER. IT WAS A CAMPAIGN PROMISE THE
PRESIDENT MADE AND EVERYONE OF US MADE TO REPLACE THE FAILURE
OF OBAMACARE. TODAY, 94 OUT OF 99 COUNTIES IN
IOWA DON'T HAVE AN INSURANCE CARRIER AT ALL.
>> PART OF REASON IS BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN
OBAMACARE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE GONE ABOUT
GUTTING REGULATION AND ALSO SAYING THAT THEY WOULD REPEAL
IT. PART OF REASON THERE'S ONLY ONE
HEALTH CARE PROVIDER OR NO HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IS BECAUSE
OF THE INSURANCE MARKETS AND INSURANCE PROVIDERS PULLING OUT
BECAUSE OF THE RHETORIC THEY WERE PUTTING FORTH AND WHAT THEY
WERE DOING. >> YOU CAN'T SAY THAT.
THEY PULLED OUT WHEN THEY THOUGHT HILLARY CLINTON WAS
GOING TO BE ELECTED. THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE LAST
FOUR MONTHS. YOU GO BACK A YEAR AGO AND YOU
LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN ARIZONA.
WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE EXPECTATION THAT HILLARY CLINTON
WOULD BE ELECTED AND THEY WERE DOWN TO ONE, ONLY ONE INSURANCE
CARRIER IN ARIZONA. AND EVEN YET LATER DURING THE
YEAR. OTHERS PULLED OUT.
SO NO, THIS WAS THE ABJECT FAILURE OF OBAMACARE.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO, AND YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THEY PULLED OUT
BECAUSE A FEW MONTHS BACK, WE ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP.
YOU CAN'T CONNECT THOSE. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE AARP,
THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, TO THE AMERICAN
HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION, ALL OF WHICH HAVE SAID THAT THIS BILL
IS NOT ONE THAT IS GOING TO PROTECT THOSE WITH PRE-EXISTING
CONDITIONS, IT IS NOT GOING TO PROTECT THE ELDERLY.
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. IT WON'T PROTECT THE POOR.
ARE THEY WRONG IN THEIR ASSESSMENT?
>> THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY WRONG. CLEARLY THEY HAVE NOT READ THE
BILL. >> HAVE YOU GIVEN THEM TIME TO
READ THE BILL?
>> WELL, SURE. OUR BILL HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR
OVER A MONTH. THEY'RE VERY SMALL AMENDMENTS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS, THOSE FOLKS ARE
COVERED. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE
COVERED. AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN
EXAGGERATION THAT IS NOT BASED ON ANY REALITY THAT I'M LIVING
IN. FIRST OF ALL, ANYONE WHO HAS
INSURANCE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE INSURANCE.
>> CONGRESSMAN -- >> SO THOSE WHO MAY HAVE A
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION UNDER OBAMACARE CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT
COVERAGE. >> I HAVE YET TO SEE A SINGLE
PIECE OF ANALYSIS THAT SAYS THE $8 BILLION UPTON AMENDMENT IS
ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THOSE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IN
STATES THAT DO CHOOSE TO GET A WAIVER AND ARE AMOVED FOR A
WAIVER, THAT THAT IS ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THE PATIENTS MIGHT
HAVE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. HAVE YOU SEEN DIFFERENT ANALYSIS
THAN I HAVE? >> CERTAINLY DO.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS. THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE THAT ARE
CURRENTLY INSURED WHO HAVE CATASTROPHIC HEALTH CONDITIONS
LIKE CANCER OR HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
THE INDIVIDUAL AND CHALLENGE WHICH IS ONLY 7% OF AMERICA.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A STATE THATMENT ONNED INTO THE WAIVER.
WE'RE NOT SURE ANY STATES WILLMENT ON IN AND IF THEY
DIDMENT ON IN FOR THE WAIVER, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE A PERSON
WHO CURRENTLY IS NOT INSURED. SOMEONE WHO IS SUBSEQUENTLY
DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER OR SOME OTHER CONDITION.
AND THEN WHAT WE HAVE IS MONEY TO BACKSTOP THE EXTRA COST THAT
COULD BE CHARGED IN A WAIVER STATE FOR A MAXIMUM OF 12
MONTHS. THAT'S THE MOST IT CAN BE
CHARGED. ANYONE WHO HAS ACTUALLY READ THE
BILL, TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE INSURANCE.
THEY LIVE IN A STATE WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE A WAIVER AND THEN
WOULD HAVE TO PAY A HIGHER COST FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS.
THEY WOULD NOT BE PAYING IT. IT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT POOL
SO WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY PROTECTED THOSE THAT SUBSEQUENTLY WOULD BE
DIAGNOSED WITH A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION.
THOSE THAT CURRENTLY HAVE IT ARE ALREADY INSURED.
>> CAN YOU