GENERAL, ROD ROSENSTEIN, WHICH AUTHORIZES ROBERT MUELLER AS
SPECIAL COUNSEL. ROSENSTEIN GIVES MUELLER THE GO
AHEAD TO LOOK NOT ONLY INTO POSSIBLE TIES BETWEEN RUSSIA AND
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, BUT ALSO, QUOTE, ANY MATTERS THAT AROSE OR
MAY ARISE DIRECTLY FROM THE INVESTIGATION.
THAT SEARCH HAS ALREADY LED THE FBI TO ZERO IN ON TWO TRUMP
AIDES, FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MICHAEL FLYNN AND FORMER
CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN, PAUL MANAFORT.
BOTH MEN HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF MULTIPLE GRAND JURY SUBPOENAS
AND RECORDS REQUESTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE
INVESTIGATION. BUT WHERE ELSE MIGHT ANY MATTERS
THAT AROSE OR MAY ARISE LEAD
MUELLER NOW THAT HE'S IN CHARGE? AFTER ALL, KEN STARR, THE
INDEPENDENT COUNSEL WHO HOUNDED BILL CLINTON IN THE 1990s
STARTED OUT WITH AN INVESTIGATION INTO WHITE WATER.
BUT WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT ENDED WITH MONICA LEWINSKY AND
IMPEACHMENT. SO WHAT NEW REVELATIONS MIGHT
MUELLER SEARCH FOR ANSWERS EXPOSE ABOUT DONALD TRUMP?
JOINING ME NOW ARE DAILY BEAST JOURNALIST, HARRY SIEGEL AND
KENNY WITH THE COALITION AGAINST TRUMP.
I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU. DONALD TRUMP REMERGES OUT OF NEW
YORK FROM THIS REAL ESTATE WORK THAT'S PRETTY MURKY.
IF YOU COULD USE YOUR LURID IMAGINATION AND SPECULATE, WHAT
MIGHT BE UNDERNEATH THIS SORT OF CURTAIN AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
OF NEW YORK BEGINS TO LOOK INTO HIM?
>> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF NEW YORK HAS SOME EXCEPTIONAL
INVESTIGATIVE POWERS AND HAS BEEN GUNNING FOR TRUMP FOR A
LONG TIME. >> HE'S A DEMOCRAT, BIG-TIME.
>> HE IS A DEMOCRAT, AND HE'S -- RICK SCHNEIDERMAN, AND HE'S
LOOKING -- AND STEP AWAY FROM RUSSIA FOR A MINUTE OR RUSSIA
AND THE ELECTION, DONALD TRUMP -- DONALD TRUMP IS IN THE
REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, WHICH IS FILLED WITH LLCs, DARK, BURIED
MONEY. AT A CERTAIN POINT, THE AMERICAN
BANKS CUT HIM OFF, BECAUSE HE KEEPS BURNING THEM, LIKE TRUMP
TENDS TO BURN PEOPLE. AND HE HAS ALL SORTS OF LINES OF
CREDIT, THAT SOME OF THEM GO BACK TO RUSSIA AND A LOT OF
THAT'S BEEN LOOKED INTO. PAUL MANAFORT, WHO'S BEING
INVESTIGATED NOW FOR HIS OWN VERY COMPLICATED REAL ESTATE
DEALINGS, THAT SEEM TO INVOLVE SURPRISE MORTGAGES THAT MAYBE
WEREN'T PAID OFF AND LLCs TO MAYBE HIDE MONEY IN PROPERTY,
WITH SCROOGE McDUCK STYLE, SO INSTEAD OF SOMEONE LIVING THERE,
THE CASH IS JUST THERE. HE HAD A PLACE IN TRUMP TOWER.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF HIS INS WITH THE DONALD.
SO, THERE'S JUST ALL OF THESE NOOKS AND CRANNIES AND DARK
CORNERS THAT SOMEBODY WITH REAL INVESTIGATIVE POWERS HAS -- AND
SUBPOENA POWER, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, CAN FIND, START
TURNING OVER ROCKS AND SEE WHAT CRAWLS OUT.
>> AND SPEAKING OF TURNING OVER ROCKS, YOU'VE BEEN DOING A LOT
OF THAT. AND YOU DO HAVE THIS SORT OF
RESIDENCE OF TRUMP TOWER CAVALCADE OF SORT OF ALMOST
CARTOONISH VILLAINS, RIGHT, THAT ARE ASSOCIATED DIRECTLY WITH
DONALD TRUMP? CAN YOU IN A VERY SHORT ORDER
SORT OF UNPACK WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NAMES THAT PEOPLE CAN BE
LOOKING FOR THAT CAN TURN UP IN THESE INVESTIGATIONS?
>> I THINK THAT MIKE FLYNN, OBVIOUSLY, IS MOST LIKELY GOING
TO HEAD TO PRISON. YOU HAVE PAUL MANAFORT, WHO'S IN
A LOT OF TROUBLE. I THINK THAT MICHAEL COHEN IS
GOING TO FACE A LOT OF SCRUTINY, AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, WE FOUND OUT -- >> THAT'S TRUMP'S LAWYER?
>> YES, THAT'S TRUMP'S ATTORNEY. HE ALSO GOES BY THE NAME MICHAEL
HACKING, BUT THAT WAS RELATED TO HIS TAXI CAB COMPANY.
SO HE HAS TWO NAMES. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MAIN POINT
IS THAT HIS FAMILY NEEDS TO BE IMPLICATED IN THIS, BECAUSE THEY
WERE BEHIND A LOT OF THESE DEALS.
SO YOU HAVE ERIC AND DON JR., BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU HAVE
IVANKA AND JARED. I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO KEY
PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE IMPLICATED NOW IN REGARDS TO THE
WHOLE TRUMP/RUSSIA PROBE. >> AND SARAH, ONE OF THE SORT OF
THINGS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP THAT PEOPLE LEARN WHEN HE RAN FOR
PRESIDENT IS THAT HE DOES HAVE THIS LONG-STANDING KIND OF
AFFINITY FOR ALL THINGS RUSSIA. HE'S DONE A LOT OF BUSINESS
THERE. HIS SON BRAGGED ABOUT A LOT OF
THEIR BUSINESS COMING FROM RUSSIA, A LOT OF THEIR CON DOES
WERE BROUGHT BY RUSSIAN LLCs OR RUSSIAN HUMANS.
HIS $90 MILLION SALE OF A HOUSE IN FLORIDA.
BUT THERE IS THIS SENSE IN WHICH HE KIND OF SEEMS TO IF NOT AT
LEAST ADMIRE BUT EMULATE RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS.
IS THIS HAPPENSTANCE AND COINCIDENCE THAT HE SEEMS TO
BEHAVE IN WAYS THAT THEY DO? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S
COINCIDENCE, I THINK HE HAS A
NATURAL AFFINITY, BECAUSE RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS CAN OPERATE
ABOVE THE LAW. AND THROUGHOUT TRUMP'S LIFE,
THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRIED TO DO. HE'S SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH
PEOPLE WHO HAVE INSIGHT INTO LEGAL LOOPHOLES HE COULD EXPLOIT
FOR HIS OWN CORRUPT VENTURES. AND I THINK HE SEES IN RUSSIA
PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO DO THIS AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL BECAUSE
THEY LACK THE CONSTRAINTS AND THE LEGAL PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE
IN THE U.S. AS PRESIDENT, I THINK HE SEE
HIMSELF AS ABOVE THE LAW. I THINK HE'S USING HIS EXECUTIVE
POSITION TO FURTHER THESE KIND OF FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS.
AND HE'S ALSO DIRECTLY IMPLICATED IN RUSSIAN
INTERACTIONS THAT MAY BE ILLEGAL.
WHETHER HIMSELF OR THROUGH PEOPLE LIKE MANAFORT, FLYNN,
PAIGE, AND YOU KNOW THE VARIOUS ACTORS THAT WE'VE JUST NAMED.
>> AND JUNE, HARRY, AS AN INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, YOU
ALSO DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK HERE FOR THE "DAILY NEWS," YOU KNOW
THE NEW YORK WEIRD WORLD. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF HEADLINES
THAT WOULD GET ANYBODY LIKE YOU SORT OF INTRIGUED BUT ONE OF
THEM WAS THE ASSOCIATED PRESS'S HEADLINE, THAT TRUMP'S ATTORNEY
DIDN'T WANT HIM TO SIGN HIS FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FORMS, THAT
WOULD HAVE CERTIFIED THEM AS TRUE.
THAT WAS WEIRD. AND THEN YOU HAVE ON FRIDAY,
POLITICO COMES OUT WITH THIS PIECE THAT TRUMP TOLD AIDES THAT
FIRING MICHAEL FLYNN WAS A MISTAKE.
IT'S LEFT WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS PERPLEXED.
WHY IS TRUMP SO DETERMINED TO DEFEND A MAN AT THE CENTER OF A
FEDERAL INVESTIGATION THAT'S DAMAGING HIS ADMINISTRATION, THE
MAN HE'S ACCUSED OF LYING TO HIS VICE PRESIDENT, SOMEONE HE
APPARENTLY IS STILL TALKING TO AND TELLING HIM TO STAY STRONG?
>> WELL, DID HE LIE TO THE VICE PRESIDENT, OR IS THAT THE ALI A
STORY? BECAUSE THESE GUYS DON'T MEAN A
LOT OF THE THINGS THEY SAID. BUT WITH FLYNN, THERE'S CLEARLY
THIS "I CAN'T QUIT YOU, BABE" ELEMENT TO THIS.
AND IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW MUCH MORE LOYAL HE'S BEEN TO MIKE
FLYNN THAN TO HIS THREE WIVES. BUT I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE HERE
WITH TRUMP, WHICH IS ALMOST ALWAYS SIMPLER AND LESS
CONSPIRATORIAL THAN YOU NEED TO START WITH.
IF YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO START SOMETHING IN COURT, HE DOESN'T
LIKE TO SAY HE'S WRONG AND HE LIKES TO DANCE WITH -- AND FLYNN
WAS A ZEALOT AND CONVERT VERY EARLY ON.
THE TWO W WERE CLOSE. HE DOESN'T LIKE THESE OTHER
GENERALS LIKE McMASTER WHO SAY A LOT OF STUFF AND ARE BORING.
HERE'S A COOL GUY, THEY SAID, LOCK HER UP, HE SAID, THAT'S
RIGHT, SOMEBODY SHOULD. THAT'S HIS SORT OF FELLA.
NOW FLYNN'S GONE. ALL OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS ARE
ROLLING DOWNHILL. AND HE'S SAYING, OH, I NEVER
SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT. BUT I WAS RIGHT TO START WITH
AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM ARE SAYING, OH, MY GOD, IS THIS
GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY LONG STRETCH TRYING TO SPEAK FOR THIS
MAN. >> AND SCOTT, THERE'S ALSO THE
POINT OF, YOU KNOW, FLYNN MIGHT KNOW SOME THINGS, RIGHT?
>> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S KEY HERE IS THAT
FROM OUR TIMELINE, WE BELIEVE THROUGH OUR INVESTIGATIONS THAT
TRUMP IS THE ONE WHO MADE THE INTRODUCTION FOR FLYNN TO THE
RUSSIANS, IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND I THINK THAT FACT, WHEN THAT
COMES OUT, THAT'S VERY TROUBLESOME, BECAUSE THEN IT'S
TRUMP THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE FIRST PLACE IN LINKING FLYNN UP.
AND I THINK THAT FLYNN HAS BEEN THE EYES AND EARS FOR TRUMP IN
RUSSIA UNTIL HE WAS FIRED. AND I THINK ALSO, YOU KNOW, OF
COURSE, HIS SON WAS ALS ALSO OV THERE IN RUSSIA, DURING THAT
RUSSIA TODAY CONFERENCE. SO THIS IS GOING TO SPIN OUT OF
CONTROL VERY, VERY QUICKLY IN REGARDS TO FLYNN.
I DON'T THINK THAT HE'S GOING TO RUN OUT OF STORIES TO TELL.
>> YEAH, OKAY, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
WE COULD DO THIS ALL DAY. HARRY SIEGEL, SCOTT KENZIE,
SCROOGE McDUCK MAKES ITS FIRST APPEARANCE ON THE "A.M.