CENSOR, AND WHAT THEY ALLOW ON THEIR PLATFORM.
AND RECENTLY, TRAINING MANUALS WERE LEAKED TO THE GUARDIAN,
WHICH INDICATED WHAT FACEBOOK PRIORITIZES, IN TERMS OF
TAKING DOWN VERSUS KEEPING UP.
WELL, WE FOUND THAT COMMENTS POSTED ON FACEBOOK ABOUT
KILLING DONALD TRUMP ARE BANNED BY THE SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE
ñ SO, VIOLENT THREATS AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE ARE OFTEN
ALLOWED TO REMAIN UNTOUCHED.
KEEP IN MIND, IF YOU MAKE DEATH THREATS AGAINST THE
PRESIDENTS, AS THE HEAD OF STATE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS
TREATED AS A CLEARLY SENSITIVE AND VERY SERIOUS, BUT WHEN
IT COMES TO AVERAGE, EVERYDAY PEOPLE LIKE US, WELL, WE'VE
GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE CREDIBLE THREATS.
WELL, TO BE FAIR TO THEM, THAT IS NOT TOTALLY IRRATIONAL.
THREATENING THE PRESIDENTS LIFE IS, OF COURSE A CRIME, BUT
ALSO SOMETHING THAT THE SECRET SERVICE IS OBLIGATED TO
INVESTIGATE, AND THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO TAKE IT DOWN.
AND TO BE FAIR TO FACEBOOK, THEY SAY THAT THEY DON'T
INVESTIGATE DEATH THREATS AGAINST AVERAGE FOLKS THAT
THEY CONSIDER NOT TO BE GREAT ABOUT.
NOW, THAT'S A TOUGH DISTINCTION, BECAUSE IF YOU GOT A DEATH
THREAT, YOU MIGHT ARGUE WITH ANYONE WHO CALLED IT NOT
CREDIBLE.
YOU'RE LIKE, THAT'S LIKE, YOUR OPINION, MAN, BUT I'M OVER
HERE WORRIED THAT I'M GOING TO GET KILLED.
BUT THEY DO HAVE TO DRAW A LINE SOMEWHERE I GUESS, BECAUSE, YOU
KNOW, EVERY TIME SOMEONE SAYS I'M GOING TO KICK YOUR ASS
ONLINE, OR TO KILL YOU ONLINE, THEY WOULD ñ
THERE WOULD BE NO END TO THE INVESTIGATIONS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THERE ARE EMPTY DEATH THREATS MADE ON
SOCIAL MEDIA, AND ONLINE IN GENERAL, ON A REGULAR BASIS,
SO THEY CAN'T INVESTIGATE EVERY SINGLE ONE, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
NOW, ABORTION VIDEOS, THOUGH, ARE ALSO ALLOWED TO REMAIN
AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HAVE NUDITY.
SO, THEY MIGHT BECOME DOUBLE WITH GORY MATERIAL, BUT AS LONG
AS YOU DON'T SEE A VAGINA, EVERYTHING IS OKAY.
I THINK I AM WHAT YOU BACK FACE ON ALMOST ALL THESE THINGS,
SO BUCKLE UP, AND LET ME DECLARE THAT WE, I DON'T KNOW, SOME
BIAS COMES FROM CONFLICT OF INTEREST, WHATEVER, FACEBOOK
IS A PARTNER OF OURS, WE PUT SOME OF OUR VIDEOS UP THERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE
TO SAY THAT JUST IN CASE YOU THINK IT AFFECTS MY OPINIONS.
I THINK ABORTION VIDEOS ARE HORRIFIC AND THERE IS
SOMETHING SLIGHTLY WRONG WITH PEOPLE WHO PUT THEM UP, BUT
TOTALLY POLITICAL SPEECH.
IF YOU ARE PRO-LIFE, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANT TO
PUT THEM UP AND I THINK FACEBOOK SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO BE UP.
NUDITY, LOOK, IT IS A TOUGH ONE.
IT IS CERTAINLY LESS OFFENSIVE THAN THE GLORY VIDEOS THAT
ARE ALLOWED UP, IN MY MIND.
YEAH, I KNOW, EXACTLY.
THAT IS CERTAINLY TRUE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU ALLOWED NUDITY AND SEX,
FACEBOOK JUST TURNS INTO, WHAT WAS THAT ROULETTE?
CHAT ROULETTE.
YEAH, AND THEN ALL THE PLATFORMS ARE JUST NONSTOP DICK PICS.
I THINK THE WAY THAT FACEBOOK IS TREATING THIS ISSUE IS JUST
AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE TREAT THIS ISSUE ON A BROADER SCALE AS
A SOCIETY.
WE ARE OKAY WITH GORY SCENES IN MOVIES AND TELEVISION
SHOWS, WE LOVE THEM, WE EAT THEM UP.
THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY SHOWS LIKE GAME OF THRONES
DO SO WELL, RIGHT?
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO NUDITY, PEOPLE FREAK OUT.
WHEN IT COMES TO SOMEBODY BREAST-FEEDING IN PUBLIC,
PEOPLE FREAK OUT.
WHEN IT COMES TO SHOWING A NIPPLE ON AN INSTAGRAM
PHOTO, PEOPLE FREAK OUT.
IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO ME, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE NIPPLES
ñ WELL, MOST OF US HAVE NIPPLES ñ
AND SEEING A NIPPLE DOESN'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF NEGATIVE IMPACT
ON ANYONE'S PSYCHOLOGY, OR AT LEAST IT SHOULDN'T.
SO, LIKE YOU SAY, IT IS NOT A FACEBOOK THING, IT IS A
SOCIETY THING.
IT IS WEIRD.
I'VE GOT YOUNG KIDS, IF THEY SIGN NIPPLE THEY WOULD
THINK, NO BIG DEAL AT ALL.
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD BAN THEM, THAT IS
SUCH A WEIRD THING.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN WE DRIVE AROUND THE CITY, THERE ARE
BILLBOARDS FOR WORD MOVIES, AND STUFF LIKE AMERICAN HORROR
STORY AND GAME OF THRONES THAT IS REALLY GRUESOME, AND
FREAKS THEM OUT.
SO, THIS IDEA OF PROTECTING THE KIDS, WE ARE DOING IT ALL WRONG.
IF YOU CARE ABOUT PROTECTING THE KIDS, YOU WOULD PROTECT
THEM FROM THE CORE AND THE VIOLENCE.
I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS.
FOOTAGE OF VIOLENT DEATHS DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DELETED
BECAUSE THEY HAND ñ THEY CAN HELP CREATE AWARENESS OF
ISSUES SUCH AS MENTAL ILLNESS.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH THEM ON THAT TOO.
NO, YOU ARE -- I MEAN...
WE SHOW VIDEOS LIKE THAT SOMETIMES.
BUT THAT'S ñ
THE POINT IS TO GET PEOPLE TO WAKE UP.
SOMETIMES, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL SHOW VIDEOS OF AMERICAN
BOMBS, OR TERRORIST BOMBS THAT AFFECT US HERE OR IN THE UK.
BECAUSE WE WANT TO SHOW HOW THEY AFFECT US.
I THINK THIS IS TOO VAGUE, BECAUSE IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES,
YES YOU SHOULD SHOW, LIKE THE CHEMICAL ATTACKS IN SYRIA,
AND SOME OF THE CHILDREN THAT SUFFERED AS A RESULT OF THAT.
THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL, INFORMATIVE VALUE TO
SHOWING THAT; HOWEVER, FACEBOOK HAS BEEN GOOD-SIZED A LOT
RECENTLY, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE LITERALLY MURDERED
INDIVIDUALS ON FACEBOOK LIVE, RIGHT?
AND SO, IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A POLICY LIKE THIS, I DON'T KNOW
HOW YOU WORD IT SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC, BUT YOU DON'T
WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO CRAZY THINGS FOR ATTENTION.
OF COURSE, NO I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT FACEBOOK, HOW THE HELL
DO THEY NOTICE ñ HOW THE HELL DO THEY KNOW THAT SOMEBODY IS
MORE TO KILL SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK LIVE?
DO WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN ALL FACEBOOK LIVE ACTIVITY
BECAUSE SOME MANIAC MIGHT TRY TO KILL SOMEBODY?
I'M NOT SAYING THAT.
I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON ANOTHER VIDEO.
BUT SHOULD THEY TAKE THAT DOWN?
OF COURSE, AS SOON AS YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, TAKE THE VIDEO DOWN.
BALANCE OF REASON.
FACEBOOK WILL ALSO ALLOW PEOPLE TO LIVE STREAM ATTEMPTS TO
SELF-HARM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WANT TO CENSOR OR PUNISH
PEOPLE IN DISTRESS.
THAT'S SLIGHTLY WEIRD, AND MADE ME QUESTION THIS WHOLE STORY.
THE GUARDIAN HAS IT AND THEY ARE SUPER REPUTABLE, BUT I'M
LIKE, REALLY?
SOMEWHERE IN FACEBOOK THEY ARE LIKE, GO AHEAD AND SELF-HARM
YOURSELF BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT YOUR FREEDOM TO SHOW
THAT OF THE WORLD...?
THAT SEEMS WEIRD.
TO BE FAIR TO FACEBOOK, EVER SINCE THAT HORRIFIC MURDER
OCCURRED ON A LIVE STREAM, THEY HAVE HIRED ñ
WERE SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HIRE,
3000 EMPLOYEES TO BETTER MONITOR THE CONTENT THAT PEOPLE PUT OUT.
SO, THEY ARE AWARE OF IT, AND MAYBE THIS IS AN OUTDATED
TRAINING MANUAL FOR ITS EMPLOYEES, MAYBE THEY HAVE
TRAINED ñ MAYBE THEY HAVE CHANGED SOME OF THEIR POLICIES.
I GET IT, BUT IT'S ñ I GET IT, IT'S THE INTERNET AND IT IS A
LOT MORE FREE THAN TELEVISION CONTENT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT CAREFUL BECAUSE IT IS A FORUM
WHERE PEOPLE GO TO TO GET INFORMATION, TO GIVE
INDICATE WITH PEOPLE, AND YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO COME
ACROSS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO
SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULDN'T DO.
YEAH, AND IT IS A SUPER TOUGH LINE TO DRAW, WHICH IS A
BIG REASON WHY I AM LARGELY DEFENDING FACEBOOK HERE.
BECAUSE, ON THE ONE HAND, IF YOU DO TOO MUCH IT TURNS INTO
CENSORSHIP.
RIGHT?
NOW I'M BANNING YOU BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE TRYING TO
HARM YOURSELF.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU SHOW PEOPLE CUTTING THEMSELVES,
OR KILLING THEMSELVES, THAT'S TERRIBLE.
DON'T DO THAT, IT MIGHT GLORIFY IT, ETC.
SO, I DON'T ENVY THEM, THEY ARE IN A TOUGH SPOT.
THEY ALREADY HAVE 4500 PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IS TO CHECK FOR
THIS STUFF, AND THEY ADDED ANOTHER 3000,
SO THAT 7500 PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE HAVING ñ ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS
ñ TO CHECK IF THEY ARE THE RIGHT VIDEOS OR NOT.
I THINK THAT IS DOING A LOT.
THAT IS A BIG NUMBER.
SO, JUST, KEEP IT REAL, IT'S EASY TO CRITICIZE CRAIGSLIST,
AND UBER, AND FACEBOOK AND ALL THESE THINGS, BUT WE LIVE IN A
FREER WORLD, AND PART OF THAT IS THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CATCH
EVERY BAD THING THAT HAPPENS AND FIX IT IMMEDIATELY.