YOUR TIME TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU.
>> JOINING ME NOW, CONGRESSWOMAN MAXINE WATERS OF CALIFORNIA.
CONGRESSWOMAN, YOU'VE BEEN VERY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S
BEHAVIOR. YOUR VIEW OF -- YOU BELIEVE THAT
THERE WAS COLLUSION, I THINK, IS YOUR OPERATING THESIS.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF BOB MUELLER'S APPOINTMENT?
>> WELL, I HAVE SAID THIS RECENTLY.
I WANT TO SEE ALL OF THE INVESTIGATIONS GO FORWARD.
WE ARE IN A VERY DIFFICULT
SITUATION, TRYING TO GET TO CREDIBLE INVESTIGATIONS WITHOUT
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS, I
BELIEVE, UNDER INVESTIGATION, WHO HAS FIRED ANYBODY WHO HAS
GOTTEN CLOSE TO REALLY GETTING INTO THESE INVESTIGATIONS AND
COMING TO CONCLUSIONS ABOUT HIS OR HIS ALLIES' INVOLVEMENT IN
COLLUSION. AND SO WHILE I WELCOME MUELLER
BEING APPOINTED BY THE NEW DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL, DON'T
FORGET. IT WAS THIS DEPUTY ATTORNEY
GENERAL WHO WAS INVOLVED IN PREPARING A MEMORANDUM THAT
SUPPOSEDLY WAS INVOLVED WITH FIRING COMEY.
ALSO WE KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT COULD FIRE THE SPECIAL COUNSEL.
THE PRESIDENT STILL HAS THE ABILITY AND THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY
CAN ALSO FIRE THE SPECIAL COUNSEL.
ALSO I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHAT ROLE JEFF SESSIONS IS PLAYING IN ALL
OF THIS. FIRST OF ALL, HE CERTAINLY
SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN HIRING THE NEXT DIRECTOR OF THE FBI.
DON'T FORGET HE HAD TO RECUSE HIMSELF BECAUSE HE LIED.
AND SO YOU HAVE SO MANY POSSIBLE CONFLICTS HERE, BUT I WANT THEM
TO GO FORWARD WITH MUELLER. I WELCOME HIS INVOLVEMENT.
I WISH THEY HAD GIVEN HIM SPECIAL DECLARATION SO THAT HE
COULD NOT BE FIRED. I UNDERSTAND THAT COULD HAVE
BEEN DONE. >> HUH.
>> BUT LET HIM GO FORWARD. LET THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE CONTINUE TO DO WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
ALSO ALLOW THE SENATE TO CONTINUE TO DO WHATEVER THEY'RE
GOING TO DO. I'M CONVINCED THAT IF WE FOLLOW
THE TRACKS OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE KREMLIN,
THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH UKRAINE, THOSE WHO HAVE
BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CIRCLE THAT I CALL THE KREMLIN CLAN, WE'LL
GET TO THE TRUTH, AND THAT MEANS WE'LL GET TO COLLUSION, AND
COLLUSION WILL LEAD TO IMPEACHMENT.
>> I SHOULD SAY OBVIOUSLY THAT COLLUSION HAS BEEN DENIED BY THE
WHITE HOUSE, DENIED AGAINST TONIGHT.
MANAFORT AND FLYNN HAVE DENIED ANYTHING OF THAT SORT.
BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS YOU JUST USED THE WORD
"IMPEACHMENT." THERE AREN'T THAT MANY DEMOCRAT
WHO'S ARE USING THAT WORD. IT'S ABOUT, I THINK, ABOUT A
DOZEN, DOZEN AND A HALF. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> WELL, HERE'S WHAT I MAKE OF IT.
I THINK TO MANY PEOPLE, IMPEACHMENT IS A HUGE THING.
IT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY THING. AND I THINK THERE ARE MANY
PEOPLE AND POLITICIANS IN PARTICULAR WHO ARE CAUTIOUS OR
WHO TEND TO WANT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM MAKING MISTAKES.
SO IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE SEEN
ENOUGH THAT SHOULD MAKE THEM AT LEAST CURIOUS ENOUGH TO GET TO
THE BOTTOM OF THIS. YOU KNOW, ANY POLITICIAN,
DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, SEEING THIS PRESIDENT FIRE COMEY,
SEEING HIM FIRE SALLY YATES, SEEING HIM FIRE PREET BHARARA UP
IN NEW YORK SHOULD WONDER WHY IS HE FIRING ALL OF THESE PEOPLE
WHO APPEAR TO HAVE SOME ROLE IN THESE INVESTIGATIONS THAT MAY
IMPLICATE ME. THEY SHOULD ALSO BE CONCERNED
ABOUT THIS PRESIDENT WHO JUST SHARED WITH RUSSIANS, THE
RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR AND THE RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER,
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. THEY SHOULD ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT
MR. FLYNN, WHO GOT CAUGHT LYING, DIDN'T WANT TO TELL THE TRUTH
ABOUT HIM DISCUSSING SANCTIONS WITH THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR --
ALL OF THIS SHOULD MAKE THEM REALLY WANT TO KNOW IF, IN FACT,
ANY OF THIS OCCURRED BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT IF IT OCCURRED,
IT WOULD LEAD TO IMPEACHMENT. AND SO THEY SHOULD COME FORWARD.
THEY JUST PERHAPS DON'T HAVE QUITE THE COURAGE YET.
>> AS I NOTED AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW, JUSTIN AMASH HAS
REFERENCED IMPEACHMENT. CURBELO DOWN IN FLORIDA, I
THINK, HAS REFERENCED IMPEACHMENT, HAS USED THE WORD.
I WANT YOU TO RESPOND FINALLY TO THIS QUOTE.
YOU'VE SERVED IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS FOR SOME
TIME, AND THIS WAS A LONGTIME HOUSE GOP STAFFER WAS ASKED BY
MOLLY BALL WHERE THINGS ARE HEADED.
THIS IS LIKE RESERVOIR DOGS. EVERYONE ENDS UP DEAD ON THE
FLOOR. DO YOU THINK REPUBLICANS ARE
PANICKING PRIVATELY? >> WELL, I DO.
I DO THINK THAT THEY ARE WORRIED.
I THINK THAT THEY ARE REALLY UPSET WITH THIS PRESIDENT ABOUT
THESE REVELATIONS THAT'S UNFOLDING EVERY DAY.
I THINK THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO PLAY IN THEIR
DISTRICTS. THEY WISH IT WOULD JUST GO AWAY.
BUT THEY KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.
THAT'S WHY WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE A SPECIAL COUNSEL
THAT WILL CERTAINLY MAKE THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE REPUBLICANS
IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE LOOK BETTER, THAT THEY ARE AT
LEAST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING. AND SO THEY HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO
TRY AND MAKE SOME MOVEMENT ON THIS.
YES, I THINK THEY'RE WORRIED. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO
ROLL OUT EASILY. BUT IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS, I'VE
ALWAYS SAID, IF WE CONNECT THE DOTS, IF WE GET THE FACTS, AND
IF WE FIND THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN UNDERMINING
OUR DEMOCRACY, IF WE CAN BRING FORTH THE FACTS THAT WILL SHOW
THAT THEY TRIED TO UNDERMINE AND DISRUPT OUR ELECTIONS, THEY
WON'T BE ABLE TO STAND WITH HIM. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CLAIM THAT
THEY LOVE AMERICA. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CLAIM THAT
THEY'RE PATRIOTS. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET
AWAY FROM HIM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JOIN WITH THOSE OF US
AT THAT POINT WHO ARE CALLING FOR IMPEACHMENT.
I BELIEVE THAT. >> I DON'T THINK ANYONE
DISAGREES THAT IF THE FACT PATTERN THAT YOU ARE CONFIDENT
EXISTS