>> ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOUR INSIGHTS, SIR.
THANK YOU. MARK SANFORD IS A REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSMAN FROM THE GREAT STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
CONGRESSMAN ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU, SIR.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS HEALTH CARE STUFF, THIS NEW CBO NUMBERS
ON THE HEALTH CARE BILL. THEY'RE ON THE SCREEN FOR OUR
VIEWERS AND LISTENERS AT HOME. ACCORDING TO THE CBO, INCREASES
THE NUMBER OF UNINSURED BY 23 MILLION PEOPLE, 14 MILLION IN
THE FIRST YEAR, REDUCES SPENDING ON MEDICAID BY $834 BILLION, IT
WOULD REDUCE THE FEDERAL DEFICIT, SOMETHING I KNOW YOU'RE
PASSIONATE ABOUT, REDUCE THE DEFINITE BY $119 BILLION BY
2026. DO YOU REGRET YOUR VOTE FOR THE
PLAN? >> NO.
AND I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO BE REMEMBERED HERE IS THERE'S A
WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE WAY OF REFINEMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE.
YOU'LL SEE THAT TAKE PLACE ON THE SENATE SIDE, YOU'LL SEE IT
SHOULD COME BACK IN CONFERENCE. THIS IS, AGAIN, THE BEGINNING OF
THE PROCESS. THE QUESTION THAT I THINK WE HAD
TO ASK IN THE HOUSE IS, IS THIS BILL GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE SENATE
TO CONTINUE THE DEBATE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS.
>> 23 MILLION MORE UNINSURED THAN UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN.
IS -- >> WELL, BUT I THINK THAT'S A
SIMPLISTIC LOOK. I THINK, ONE, PART OF THAT IS
PEOPLE THEMSELVES, IF THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BUY SOMETHING,
THEY MIGHT CHOOSE NOT TO. >> SO THEY'RE UNINSURED?
>> YES. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S ANOTHER
COMPONENT TO THIS, WHICH IS, IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THROUGH THE
CBO REPORT WHAT IT SHOWS IS, IF YOU HAVE LESSER LEVELS OF
COVERAGE THAN IS CURRENTLY EXTEND THE WITH THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT, YOU'RE NOT COUNTED AS INSURED.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE
AN ACCURATE READING OF UNINSURED BECAUSE FOR MANY YOUNG PEOPLE
THEY DO WANT TO HAVE A PLAN THAT HAS A SMALLER NUMBER OF
ENUMERATED BENEFITS, THAT IS A PLAN THAT COULD WORK FOR THEM.
IF I'M FORCED TO BUY A $1.5 MILLION HOMEOWNERS POLICY BUT
HAVE A $200,000 HOUSE THAT'S NOT A PLAN THAT WORKS FOR ME.
I THINK THE SAME COULD BE SAID OF HEALTH CARE.
>> LET'S DIVE INTO THE REPORT MORE HERE.
THIS IS A LOOK AT WHAT'S NOT COVERED.
ACCORDING TO THE CBO QUOTE OUT OF POCKET SPENDING ON MATERNITY
CARE AND MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES, THOSE
THINGS COULD INCREASE BY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A GIVEN
YEAR. BLOOMBERG ANALYZED THE MATERNITY
COVERAGE COST SPECIFICALLY, IN A STATE WHERE COVERAGE IS NO
LONGER MANDATED THE COSTS WOULD SKYROCKET.
21-YEAR-OLD MAN WOULD PAY ABOUT $105 A MONTH, MEANWHILE, A
21-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WOULD HAVE TO BUY A POLICY RIDER WHICH COULD
MAKE HER COSTS MORE THAN $1100 PER MONTH.
HOW DO YOU DEFEND THAT IN 2018? >> IT'S ONLY IF THERE'S
DISCONTINUED COVERAGE. THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE PLAN IS TO
INDUCE PEOPLE TO COVERAGE. WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, IS PEOPLE WAIT UNTIL THE HOUSE IS BURNING
TO SIGN UP FOR HOMEOWNERS POLICY.
THAT ISN'T INSURANCE. IT IS CATASTROPHIC COVERAGE, BUT
IT'S NOT INSURANCE. THE IDEA TO GO BACK TO INSURANCE
SO IF YOU HAVE CONTINUOUS COVERAGE YOU DO NOT SEE THOSE
KINDS OF INCREASES, IF YOU'VE NOT HAD CONTINUOUS COVERAGE I'LL
GET OFF AND TAKE MY CHANCES THERE ARE HIGH RISK POOLS TO
ADDRESS THOSE VERY COSTS AND THE OTHER IMPORTANT PART OF THIS
REPORT, WAS THE FLIP SIDE OF THE EQUATION.
AND WHAT IT SHOWED WAS, IN THOSE STATES THAT ACTUALLY COULD ALTER
THEIR PLANS, YOU SAW A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN
PREMIUMS. AND THAT PART OF THE DEBATE HAS
NOT BEEN TALKED ABOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT ONE HALF OF THE
EQUATION, WHICH IS HOW DO WE HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROFOUND
HEALTH CARE NEEDS. I THINK THAT'S ADDRESSED.
BUT THE OTHER PART OF THE EQUATION, THOSE SMALL BUSINESS
PEOPLE, OR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY EMPLOYED, WHAT
HAPPENS TO THEM BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE LATEST
REPORT IS 100% ESCALATION IN PREMIUMS OVER THE LAST COUPLE
YEARS AND THAT'S HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE AS WELL.
>> CONGRESSMAN, JUST TO PIVOT, YOU HAD PRETTY STRONG WORDS FOR
MICK MULVANEY, A FELLOW SOUTH CAROLINA LAWMAKER AS WELL, NOW
HE'S THE WHITE HOUSE BUDGET DIRECTOR.
I WANT TO PLAY A PORTION OF WHAT YOU SAID YESTERDAY.
>> YES, SIR. >> YOU HAVE SAID THAT THE
FOUNDATION OF YOUR BUDGET IS 3% GROWTH.
AND I HAVE LOOKED EVERY WHICH WAY HOW YOU MIGHT GET THERE AND
YOU CAN'T GET THERE. IT'S NOT ONLY A MYTH IT'S
FRANKLY A LIE. >> THOSE ARE FIGHTIN' WORDS.
EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK THE WHITE HOUSE BUDGET FIGURES ON GROWTH
ARE A LIE? >> WELL, THE AVERAGE ECONOMIC
EXPANSION IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY IS 54 MONTHS.
54 MONTHS. WE'RE NOW IN THE THIRD LONGEST
ECONOMIC EXPANSION IN AMERICAN HISTORY WE'RE AT 96 MONTHS.
WHAT THEY PRESUME IN THEIR BUDGET IS THAT WE WILL
COMPLETELY UPLIFT THE LAWS OF FINANCIAL GRAVITY AND WE WILL
NOT HAVE A RECESSION. NOT IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR
YEARS, BUT IN THE ENTIRE TEN-YEAR WINDOW.
AND THAT IS SIMPLY UNREALISTIC. WHAT THEY PRESUME IS 214 MONTHS
OF UNINTERRUPTED ECONOMIC EXPANSION AND THAT ISN'T
REALISTIC. IF YOU BASE YOUR NUMBERS ON
SOMETHING THAT IS REALISTIC THE CONSEQUENT BUDGET IS EQUALLY
UNREALISTIC AND WHY WE GOT INTO A BIT OF NUMBERS BACK AND FORTH
MYSELF AND THE OMB DIRECTOR. >> REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE I LET
YOU GO ON GIANFORTE, I KNOW THAT YOU TOLD A REPORTER A SHORT TIME
AGO, APPARENTLY YOU TOLD BUZZFEED REPORTER THIS MORNING I
THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE CAREFUL NOT TO MAKE HIM MAD.
ASSUMING HE WINS THIS ELECTION IN MONTANA TODAY.
HOUSE SPEAKER PAUL RYAN SAID HE SHOULD APOLOGIZE, DO YOU AGREE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. AGAIN, WE CAN VIGOROUSLY
DISAGREE ON IDEAS, BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT TO THE NOTION OF
PHYSICAL VIOLENCE. THERE'S SOMETHING VERY WRONG
THERE, IT NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATELY CONDEMNED, BECAUSE
YOU DO NOT WANT THIS TO GET OUT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE BELIEVING
IT'S OKAY TO ASSAULT A REPORT ARE OR ANYBODY ELSE.
>> IF HE WINS HE SHOULD BE SEATED?
>> THAT'S BEYOND MY PAY GRADE, DECIDED BY LEADERSHIP AND THE
PEOPLE OF MONTANA. IF PEOPLE OF