IF HE DECIDES ON ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL RUN.
BEST POSITIONED TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND.
BIDEN WILL BE 77 BY THE TIME OF THE NEXT IOWA CAUCUS, BIDEN 2020
MIGHT JUST HAPPEN. HAS A BREAKNECK SCHEDULE THE
DAYS TO COME. APPEARING AT EVENTS WITH NEW
YORK GOVERNOR CUOMO AND FLORIDA AND SALT CONFERENCE WITH OTHER
POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC PEOPLE. HERE'S THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT
LAST NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE SPEAKING TO 800 DEMOCRATS.
>> I GOT ASKED BY RAY TO COME UP HERE.
WASN'T A DOUBT IN MY MIND. EVEN THOUGH I NOW IT CAUSES A
LOT OF SPECULATION. I'M NOT RUNNING.
>> I CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO SUPPORT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, ELECT DEMOCRATS AT EVERY LEVEL ACROSS
THIS NATION. I MEANT IT BECAUSE IT IS
IMPORTANT. I'M READY TO HELP CANDIDATES
CAMPAIGN WHEREVER YOU WANT JUST LET ME KNOW.
BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. NO, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR
APPLAUSE. IT'S REALLY, REALLY GENERALLY
IMPORTANT. >> THE "NEW YORK TIMES" ALSO
REPORTS THE SENATORS BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN.
THERE'S A DIVIDE WITH CORY BOOKER, AND PAMELA HAIRS ON THE
YOUNGER END. PRESIDENT TRUMP FRIDAY FOR THE
NRA CONVENTION AND WHILE HE WAS THERE, HE MADE PREDICTION ABOUT
THE ELECTION FOUR YEARS AWAY. >> I HAVE A FEELING IN THE NEXT
ELECTION YOU'RE GOING BE SWAMPED BY CANDIDATES.
>> REMEMBERED THAT. >> PRESIDENT USING THAT TERMS TO
REFER TO SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN JOINING US NOW DEPUTY
EDITORIAL PAGE COLUMNIST AT "THE WASHINGTON POST."
GOOD MORNING. MARK AND JOHN, LET ME BEGIN WITH
YOU AS THE GAME CHANGERS. THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A PARLOR
GAME. YOUNGER PROGRESSIVE.
IS IT JOE BIDEN. WHAT DO YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THE
PRESIDENCY. CHANCE OF BEING A DEMOCRATIC
NOMINEE. TALK OF RUNNING AGAINST DONALD
TRUMP GIVEN HIS CURRENT APPROVAL RATINGS AND TOP POLITICAL
ENVIRONMENT HE FACES NOT A GUARANTEE BECOME THE PRESIDENT.
IT'S A CLEAN AS SHOT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE HAVING AT THIS POINT.
IT IS WIDE OPEN. I THINK YOU'LL SEE SPECULATION
CONTINUE BECAUSE IT'S SO WIDE OPEN AND THERE'S AN GET IN
EARLY. TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF
LEAN AND NARROW DOWN PEOPLE'S CONSIDERATION.
I SUSPECT THIS WILL BE A WILD A THING WE'LL SEE.
STARTED BASICALLY LAST WEEK. >> JOHN, MIKE, YOU CAN ANSWER
THIS TOO. YOU KNOW BIDEN WELL.
IS THIS REAL OR WISTFUL. >> SOME PART OF IT MAY CAN'T
RUN. YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE'S ALWAYS
ALARM, BIG SPACE BETWEEN BIDEN AND RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
HE IS NOT IN STEP WITH WHERE THE PARTY IS RIGHT NOW.
AND WHERE IT'S HEADED WHICH IS FURTHER AND FURTHER TO THE LEFT.
MORE AND MORE PROGRESSIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S A GENTLEMAN
IN HIS EARLY 70s WHO IS GOING TO BE IN MIDDLE 70s BY THE TIME WE
GET THERE. ANOTHER ISSUE AFFLICTS THE
PERSON WHO WOULD ORDINARILY IF NOT FOR AGE BE THE FRONT-RUNNER
BERNIE SANDERS. WHO CAME CLOSE TO WINNING THE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION LAST TIME AND MOST POPULAR POLITICAL
PERSON IN THE COUNTRY. CONTINUES TO BE THE ONLY PERSON
BESIDES DONALD TRUMP TO GO TO ANY STATE, ANY CITY AND GET FIVE
OR TEN,000 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AT AN EVENT FOR HIM.
HE WOULD BE 74, 75. BY THE TIME HE CAME.
KNOW HE'S THINKING ABOUT IT. IT'S A TALL ORDER FOR SOMEBODY
AT THAT ABLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT GIVEN PHYSICAL AND
OTHER DEMANDS IT WOULD PUT ON HIM.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT. YOU GET BERNIE SANDERS, HE'LL BE
77. 78 OR SO.
IN A FEW YEARS. FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, BIDEN WHO
HAS A DEEP APPRECIATION OF WHAT FATE AND LIFE CAN DO TO YOU.
WILL BE 77 AND THEY ARE THE TWO PERHAPS ARGUABLY LEADING
CANDIDATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE OF BALLOT RIGHT NOW.
>> IT'S PRETTY INCREDIBLE STATE OF AFFAIRS AND THE GRAYING OF
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE ELECT TORL RANKS AND POSSIBLE
PRESIDENTIAL RANKS. SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GIVE PAUSE
TO DEMOCRATS. RUN OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS
OF COURSE WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
FELT WIPING OUT OF THE DEMOCRATIC BENCH.
NOT JUST LOSING THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, BUT LOSING SOMETHING
LIKE 900 LEGISLATIVE SEATS. YOU GROW PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES
FROM THE GROUND UP USUALLY
EXCEPT IF THERE ARE REALITY TYCOONS.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM NECESSARILY.
THIS TIME AROUND, BUT I DO THINK THAT LOOK, 70 MIGHT BE THE NEW
60 ON MAYBE 80 IS THE NEW 70. THAT'S AWFULLY OLD FOR A JOB AS
DEMANDING AS THE PRESIDENT. WITH NO DISRESPECT TO THE
CURRENT OFFICE HOLDER TO PRETTY ENERGETIC GUYS WHO MIGHT BE
INTERESTED. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE OTHER
END OF THE SPECTRUM. CORY BOOKER, KRISTEN, SETH
MOTELEN CAME UP. THAT SAID.
IT IS TOO EARLY. ALSO, I REALLY DON'T THINK IS
GOING TO NECESSARILY BE AN INCUMBENT POLITICIAN WHO ENDS UP
WINNING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION.
I THINK NATIONAL LEVEL POLITICS IS FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED.
I THINK NAME RECOGNITION IS SO IMPORTANT.
IN ESPECIALLY GOING UP AGAINST DONALD TRUMP.
AND I THINK THAT WE COULD SEE SOME REALLY INTERESTING OUTSIDE
CONTENDERS SURFACE. >> YES.
YOU EITHER HAVE TO BE FAMOUS OR GET FAMOUS QUICKLY.
ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY YOURSELF, BE ABLE TO RAISE A LOT
OF MONEY. OR DO WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID AND
USE SOCIAL MEDIA AND GET ACCESS TO VOTERS WITHOUT PAID
ADVERTISING. I LOOK AT ALL THESE NAMES AND
DON'T SEE THE POTENTIAL TO DO THAT.
>> THERE IS ONE PERSON I KNOW WE BOTH THINK.
DON'T SLEEP OF HARRIS. FOR REASONS WE TALKED ABOUT.
SHE'S NOT FAMOUS, BUT SHE COULD GET FAMOUS QUICK.
AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN FROM CALIFORNIA WHO COULD RAISE A LOT
OF MONEY QUICKLY. WITH ONE MOMENT COULD BECOME A
HUGE SUPER STAR THE PARTY. SHE HASN'T HAD THAT MOMENT.
>> SHE HAS NOT BEEN A MONSTER FUND RAISER IN CALIFORNIA.
>> SHE COULD. >> SHE'S AT CAPACITY.
>> SO RUTH, LET ME ASK YOU, KAMALA HARRIS OR ANY OF THE
CANDIDATES WHO MIGHT BE AT THE TOP OF THE BALLOT IN THE
DEMOCRATS IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL
OR OUGHT THEY TO DEAL OR WILL THAT BE FORCED TO DEAL WITH THE
PHRASE DEPLORABLES.
DID SUCH DAMAGE TO THE BASIC CORE CONSTITUENCY.
HOW WOULD ANY DEMOCRATIC DO THAT.
>> ANY DEMOCRATIC WHO IS RUNNING IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT HE OR SHE ADDRESSES THE QUESTION OF THE ANGRYISH OR
ANXIOUS WORKING CLASS VOTER. WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTER.
SIMPLY RELYING ON DEM DEMOGRAPHICS TO GET THERE IS A
DANGEROUS ROUTE. BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO ANGER AND
FRUSTRATION WITH WASHINGTON TO THE ECONOMIC ANXIETY THAT HELPS
TO PROPEL BERNIE SANDERS AND DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO BE
ESSENTIAL FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, WHETHER IT'S BERNIE
SANDERS OR SOMEBODY ELSE. AND YOU CAN'T TREAT PEOPLE WITH
DISRESPECT AND THEN ASK FOR THEIR VOTES.
THAT'S LIKE A FACT OF POLITICAL LIFE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THE ANXIETY,
DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THE
ANXIETY AND TO COME UP WITH PROGRAMS THAT APPEAL TO THESE
VOTERS. >> RUTH, AS WE TALK ABOUT A
POTENTIAL NEXT PRESIDENT, YOUR COLUMN IS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS
PRESIDENT. CRITICIZED PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR
HITTING THE BIG MONEY SPEAKING CIRCUIT AFTER REPORTS SAY HE AND
THE FORMER FIRST LADY SIGNED A $60 MILLION JOINT BOOK DEAL.
IN COLLECTING $400,000 TO MAKE A SINGLE SPEECH, BARACK OBAMA
FOLLOWING IN THE PAST FOOTSTEPS. TO ACKNOWLEDGE OBAMA HAS PLENTY
OF PRECEDENT ON HIS SIDE IS NOT TO SAY HIS CHOICE IS WIDE.
PROPULSION ON THE CIRCUIT ARRIVES AT A MOMENT OF DISGUST
WITH WALL STREET GREED AND WASHINGTON SWAMP.
COMES AFTER A CAMPAIGN WITH HILLARY CLINTON'S SPEAKING FEES
BECOME A SYMBOL OF ELITISM. IMAGINE THE POWERFUL MESSAGE
OBAMA WOULD HAVE SENT HAD HE CHOSEN TO RENOUNCE THIS ROAD TO
RICHES. RUTH, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE
ELIZABETH WARREN HERSELF SAYING SHE WAS TROUBLED.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE ATTACKS. IS HE ENTITLED.
HE'S NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE THE WAY HILLARY CLINTON WAS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING HE HAS TO THINK ABOUT.
IS HE NOT ENTITLED TO GO MAKE MONEY THE WAY HE PLEASES.
>> HE'S TOTALLY ENTITLED AND LEGALLY TOTALLY ENTITLED TO GO
MAKE MONEY AS HE PLEASES AND HISTORICALLY AS I SAID, THIS IS
A WELL TROTTEN PATH. HE COULD HAVE SENT.
HE COULD HAVE CHOSEN TO SEND A DIFFERENT MESSAGE AND BY THE
WAY, IN TERMS OF MAKING MONEY, HIS BOOK DEALS, REPORTED TO BE
BETWEEN $60-65 MILLION. SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY TO ME.
ENOUGH TO LIVE ON. GIVE A LOT TO CHARITY.
HELP YOUR FOUNDATION. AND IT -- LOOK, THIS GOES BACK
TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AND THE ABILITY OF THE
DEMOCRATS TO SPEAK TO VOTERS WHO FEEL LIKE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
AND WASHINGTON ARE NOT ATTENTIVE TO THEIR ISSUES.
JUST THINK ABOUT THE SIGNAL IT WOULD HAVE SENT IF THE FORMER
PRESIDENT HAD JUST QUIETLY SAID I'M NOT GOING ON THE LECTURE
CIRCUIT. IT WOULD HAVE -- NOT THAT DONALD
TRUMP WOULD HAVE RENOUNCED LECTURE CIRCUIT IN THE FUTURE.
HE'S GOING TO MAKE MONEY WHEN HE LEAVES OFFICE AND ALL THE WAYS
HE LIKES TO MAKE MONEY. WOULD HAVE SAID ENOUGH IS
ENOUGH. OBAMA DID NOT LEAVE THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN A GREAT SHAPE.
MAYBE HE COULD HAVE HELPED IT A LITTLE BIT BY NOT OPENING FRONT
OF SURE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES TALKING
ABOUT HIM. VACUUMING UP CHECKS.
IT SOMEWHAT TARNISHES. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A LOGICAL OR
WOULD HAVE BEEN A NICE