TONIGHT ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND RUSSIA.
JOHN McCORMICK, SENIOR WRITER FOR THE WEEKLY STANDARD AND WE
HAVE A NATIONAL CORRESPOND DONT WITH THE "WASHINGTON POST."
WHAT IS THE "WASHINGTON POST" BREAKING?
>> A FEW MOMENTS AGO, THEY HAVE BROKEN A STORY WRITTEN BY TWO OF
MY COLLEAGUES. AND BASICALLY, WHAT IT SAYS IS
THAT SHORTLY AFTER THEN FBI DIRECTOR COMEY REVEALED THAT
THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION INTO POSSIBLE COLLUSION BETWEEN THE
RUSSIANS AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN THAT THE PRESIDENT ASKED THE
DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE HEAD OF THE
NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY TO PUBLICLY DENY THAT THERE WAS ANY
EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION. >> THIS IS WHAT I DON'T GET,
JOHN. IS THAT WHY WAS THE PRESIDENT
STICKING HIS NOSE SO DEEPLY IN THIS AND FOR FLYNN?
THAT'S WHAT I DON'T -- IT'S LIKE, I SAY THE LAST TIME, WHY
DOES HE NEED A LAWYER? IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING IS ON
FLYNN. EVERYBODY IS ON EVERYBODY ELSE.
THERE'S NO ONE WHO MADE THE ALLEGATION THAT THE PRESIDENT
HIMSELF HAS DONE ANYTHING WRONG. BUT HE SURE STICKS HIS NOSE IF
IT. APPARENTLY, ACCORDING TO THE
ARTICLE, ROGERS DOCUMENTED CONTEMPORANEOUSLY WHAT WAS IN
THE "WASHINGTON POST." >> AS FOR LOYALTY TO FLYNN, I
DON'T KNOW. THIS IS SPECULATION, MAYBE
PSYCHOANALYSIS IS TRUMP THAT LOYAL.
>> WHY ISN'T HE LOYAL TO ANYBODY ELSE?
>> FLYNN WAS VERY LOYAL TO HIM THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN.
I THINK THAT EACH -- IT'S BEEN REPORTED THAT CLOSE MEMBERS OF
TRUMP'S FAMILY THOUGHT THAT LOYALTY SHOULD BE REPAID.
ONE OF THE MOST TROUBLING THINGS IN THE REPORT JUST PUBLISHED, IT
SEEMS TO TAKE THINGS FURTHER THAN THE LAST REPORT.
LAST WE HEARD FROM THE FBI MEMO THAT COMEY REPORTEDLY WROTE DOWN
IS THAT TRUMP HIMSELF SAID I HOPE YOU CAN LET THIS GO.
WHAT THE "WASHINGTON POST" IS REPORTING RIGHT NOW, IN ADDITION
TO REQUESTS FOR COATES AND ROGERS WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS
ABOUT INTERVENING DIRECTLY WITH COMEY TO DROP THE PROBE.
CAN WE ASK THEM TO SHUT DOWN THE INVESTIGATION.
ONE OFFICIAL SAID OF THE LINE OF QUESTIONING FROM THE WHITE
HOUSE. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST PUBLISHED
RIGHT NOW. THIS SEEMS TO GO A STEP FURTHER.
>> IT GOES TO THE LARGER QUESTION IN ALL OF THESE STORIES
AND IT'S REALLY STARK IN THIS ONE BY ADAM AND ELLEN IS THAT
THE PRESIDENT EITHER DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE BOUNDARIES
BETWEEN HIS POWER AND THAT OF THE INVESTIGATIVE AGENCIES OR HE
DOESN'T CARE. THAT HE JUST DOESN'T RESPECT
THOSE BOUNDARIES. >> THAT MAY VERY WELL BE TRUE.
EITHER HE DOESN'T KNOW OR CARE. BUT I STILL THINK IT'S, WHY DOES
HE KEEP GOING OUT ON A LIMB, MAKING PHONE CALLS FOR FLYNN?
I THINK THAT'S -- I DON'T GET THAT.
I'M BIG ON THE LOYALTY THING. BUT REMEMBER LEWANDOWSKI, HE
WASN'T THAT LOYAL TO HIM. I MEAN, HE FIRED HIM.
I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY THE LOYALTY TO A -- TO FLYNN?
>> IN THIS CASE -- >> I THINK THAT'S SUSPICIOUS.
>> IN THIS CASE, IT WAS WHETHER THERE WAS COLLUSION BETWEEN
ANYONE ON HIS CAMPAIGN AND THE RUSSIANS.
>> BUT I MEAN, THE FACT THAT HE -- THAT HE TRIES WITH
APPARENTLY, WE DON'T KNOW THE
FACTS FOR SURE. THESE ARE ALLEGATIONS FLOATING
AROUND. WE GOT TO HEAR FROM COMEY.
HE'S GOING TO COMEY AND TO COATES.
YOU'VE GOT HIM GOING TO ROGERS AND IT WAS -- SUPPOSEDLY HAVE
NOTES WITH COMEY. CONTEMPORANEOUS NOTES WITH
ROGERS UNKNOWN ABOUT COATES. HE'S AWFUL BUSY DOING THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S A REALLY -- THAT TAKES SOME TIME.
WHY IS HE SO -- THAT'S WHERE I'M HUNG UP.
>> IT'S CLEAR THAT THE PRESIDENT BELIEVES THAT -- FIRST OF ALL,
HE'S POTENTIALLY IN JEOPARDY HERE.
PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSE TO HIM ARE POTENTIALLY IN JEOPARDY HERE.
BUT HE ALSO HAS PERSONALIZED THIS AS BASICALLY QUESTIONING
THE ENTIRE LEGITIMACY OF HIS ELECTION.
>> I THINK KAREN REALLY GETS TO SOMETHING THERE.
WE DO KNOW THAT TRUMP IS VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS
NARRATIVE THAT HE ONLY WON BECAUSE OF --
>> IT'S NOT ABOUT LOYALTY TO FLYNN.
IT'S ABOUT IF THE NARRATIVE ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE
ELECTION AND WHETHER HE'S LEGITIMATE OR NOT.
>> ONE POSSIBLE EXPLANATION. THERE COULD BE MORE THAN ONE
POSSIBLE EXPLANATION. I THINK IT COULD BE BOTH.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT HE'S VERY FRUSTRATED BY ANY HINT HE DIDN'T
WIN THIS FAIR AND SQUARE, THE POWER OF HIS COALITION.
I MEAN, HE TALKS ABOUT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE MAP ALL THE
TIME. ANY HINT THAT THE RUSSIANS
INTERVENED AND HAD A HAND IN THE ELECTION -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S
TRUE FURTHERMORE. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT PLAYED A
DECISIVE ROLE. IT REALLY BOTHERS HIM.
WE KNOW THAT FOR A FACT. >> WELL, ALSO, THE FACT IS
WHENEVER HE'S BEEN PUSHED ON THIS, HE LASHES BACK WITH THIS
IS A BUNCH OF WHINE I DEMOCRATS TRYING TO JUSTIFY WHY HILLARY
CLINTON DIDN'T WIN. >> I HATE TO BE POLLYANNA.
IF YOU'VE GOT NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, LET'S HAVE ALL THE FACTS
OUT THERE. THAT'S WHERE YOU GET TO THE
POINT, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE BEING FALSELY ACCUSED OR SOMETHING,
LET'S GET THE FACTS OUT. THEN WHEN PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE
FACTS OUT, I REALIZE THAT THINGS CAN BE DISTORTED.