AND VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE JOINS
ME NOW.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> I WANT TO GET TO THE PARIS
CLIMATE ACCORD IN A SECOND.
I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION TO
THE ATTACK LAST NIGHT IN LONDON
BRIDGE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST MADE A
TWEET.
I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION.
AT LEAST SEVEN DEAD AND 48
WOUNDED IN TERROR ATTACK AND
MAYOR OF LONDON SAID THERE'S,
QUOTE, NO REASON TO BE ALARMED.
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THAT
TWEET?
>> I ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO SEE
THE STATEMENT FROM THE MAYOR OF
LONDON, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I
HEARD HIM SAY, AND I DON'T THINK
THAT A MAJOR TERRORIST ATTACK
LIKE THIS IS THE TIME TO
CRITICIZE A MAYOR WHO IS TRYING
TO ORGANIZE HIS CITY'S RESPONSE
TO THIS ATTACK.
THE TERRORISTS WANT US TO LIVE
IN A STATE OF CONSTANT FEAR AND
HAVING AN EFFECTIVE RESPONSE IS
THE MAIN THING, AND IT LOOKS TO
ME LIKE THE LONDON POLICE WERE
THERE IN SIX MINUTES AND THE
SCOURGE OF TERRORISM HAS TO BE
DEFEATED.
WE HAVE TO DEFEAT IT NOT ONLY
WITH FORCE OF ARMS BUT FORCE OF
OUR VALUES.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE PARIS
CLIMATE AGREEMENT.
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THE
DECISION TO WITHDRAW THE U.S.
FROM THE AGREEMENT WAS ABOUT
PUTTING AMERICA FIRST.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> THE PARIS AGREEMENT HANDICAPS
THE UNITED STATES ECONOMY.
IN ORDER TO WIN PRAISE FROM THE
VERY FOREIGN CAPITALS AND GLOBAL
ACTIVISTS THAT HAVE LONG SOUGHT
TO GAIN WEALTH AT OUR COUNTRY'S
EXPENSE.
THEY DON'T PUT AMERICA FIRST.
I DO.
AND I ALWAYS WILL.
>> WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE?
>> WELL, THE FASTEST GROWING
SECTOR OF OUR ECONOMY IS CLEAN
ENERGY.
AND PART OF THE SUSTAINABILITY
REVOLUTION SOLAR JOBS ARE NOW
GROWING 17 TIMES FASTER IN THE
U.S. THAN OTHER JOBS.
THE FASTEST GROWING JOB FOR THE
NEXT TEN YEARS, ACCORDING TO THE
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS IS
WIND TURBINE.
WE'RE SEEING A SUSTAINABILITY
REVOLUTION THAT IS A START.
IT HAS THE MAGNITUDE OF THE
INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, BUT THE
SPEED OF THE DIGITAL REVOLUTION.
AND RATHER THAN TRYING TO
RECREATE THE 19th CENTURY AND
PAINT A PICTURE OF A PAST THAT
IS GONE, WE NEED LEADERSHIP TO
GEAR AMERICA FOR THE 21st
CENTURY.
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DECISION WAS
UNFORTUNATE.
IT UNDERMINED OUR COUNTRY'S STAT
CHUR.
HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS, WITH THE
LEADERSHIP GOVERNS LIKE JERRY
BROWNE AND ANDREW CUOMO AND
OTHERS AND MAYOR MIKE BLOOMBERG
IS DOING A GREAT JOB.
WE'RE SEEING CIVIC LEADERSHIP,
APPLE, GOOGLE, GENERAL ELECTRIC.
YOU CAN GO DOWN THE LIST.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE CONTINUED
REDUCTIONS IN EMISSIONS IN THE
U.S.
WE'RE GOING TO MEET THE
COMMITMENTS UNDER THE CLIMATE
PAC IN PARIS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES, AND SO
WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF PROGRESS.
>> IF WE'RE GOING TO MEET THAT
GOAL OF 24 TO 26% REDUCTION OF
CARBON GAS EMISSIONS WITHOUT
BEING IN THE AGREEMENT.
IS THERE AN ARGUMENT WE DON'T
NEED TO BE IN THE AGREEMENT?
>> THE REQUIREMENTS WERE
VOLUNTARY.
HE COULD HAVE CHANGED THE
REQUIREMENTS.
MY POINT IS WE'RE SEEING A
TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION THAT IS
GREATLY NEEDED.
SOMEBODY ONCE SAID THE STONE AGE
DIDN'T END BECAUSE OF A SHORTAGE
OF STONES.
SOMETHING BETTER CAME ALONG.
SAME IS TRUE OF THE AGE OF
FOSSIL FUELS.
BUT THE PARIS AGREEMENT WAS
REALLY HISTORIC.
BUT IT LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR
THE FASTER PROGRESS THAT IS
NEEDED IN ORDER TO SOLVE THE
CLIMATE CRISIS IN TIME.
AND WE COULD HAVE FASTER
PROGRESS WITH PRESIDENTIAL
LEADERSHIP, BUT WE'RE GOING TO
KEEP MOVING FORWARD REGARDLESS
OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION
TO SOMETHING, AN ARGUMENT BEING
MADE BY THE EPA ADMINISTRATOR
SCOTT PRUITT.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> HE WAS A REAL DEAL TO BEGIN
WITH.
EVEN IF THE TARGETS WERE MET BY
NATIONS ACROSS THE GLOBE, IT
ONLY REDUCED THE TEMPERATURE BY
LESS THAN TWO TENTHS OF ONE
DEGREE.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE A
SIMILAR ARGUMENT.
>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT
TRUE.
BUT SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, THERE
WAS A FAMOUS ECONOMISTIST WHO
ONCE SAID THINGS TAKE LONGER TO
HAPPEN THAN YOU THINK THEY WILL
THEN THEY HAPPEN MUCH FASTER
THAN YOU THOUGHT THEY COULD.
THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
AND THE PARIS AGREEMENT GIVES
TREMENDOUS MOMENTUM FOR MOVEMENT
ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
YOU KNOW, IN THE AMOUNTS WITHIN
13 YEARS 100% OF ALL OF THEIR
CARS HAVE TO BE ELECTRIC
VEHICLES.
CHINA'S EMISSIONS HAVE COME DOWN
FOUR YEARS IN A ROW.
ALL OVER THE WORLD WE'RE SEEING
THIS MOVEMENT.
AND NOW ELECTRICITY FROM SOLAR
AND WIND AND MANY REGIONS IS
LESS THAN HALF THE COST OF
ELECTRICITY FROM BURNING FOSSIL
FUELS.
SO WE START MAKING THIS
TRANSITION THEN PICK UP STEAM
AND THEN SUDDENLY WE CROSS THE
TIPPING POINT.
THAT IS WHAT IS BEGINNING TO
HAPPEN.
BUT THE U.S. OUGHT TO BE LEADING
THIS REVOLUTION AND CREATING
MORE OF THE NEW JOBS HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
>> DURING THE TRANSITION, YOU
MET WITH PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP
AT THE TIME AT THE INVITATION OF
IVANKA TRUMP.
LAST MONTH AT CANNES FILM
FESTIVAL YOU SAID --
>> WELL I KEPT THE DETAILS OF MY
CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM
CONFIDENTIAL.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO
DO.
NONE OF IT WOULD SURPRISE YOU.
I DID THINK THERE WAS A CHANCE
HE WOULD COME TO HIS SENSES AND
NOT MAKE THE DECISION THAT HE
ANNOUNCED THIS PAST WEEK.
>> WHY DID YOU THINK THAT?
>> WELL, IT MADE SENSE FOR THE
COUNTRY.
ALL HE HAD TO DO UNDER THE TERMS
OF THE PARIS AGREEMENT WAS
CHANGE THE COMMITMENTS.
THEY'RE VOLUNTARY AND EACH
COUNTRY CAN DETERMINE ITS OWN
COMMITMENTS.
SO I THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE AND I
THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD COME TO
HIS SENSES ON IT.
BUT HE DIDN'T.
>> HAVE YOU TALKED TO IVANKA
TRUMP AT ALL SINCE THE MEETING
AT TRUMP TOWER?
>> OH, YES.
>> ABOUT THIS ISSUE?
>> YES.
YES.
I HAVE NOT TALK TALKED TO HER
SINCE THE DECISION LAST WEEK.
>> SHE MUST BE DISAPPOINTED.
SHE WAS LOBBYING INTERNALLY TO
HAVE HER FATHER STAY IN THE
AGREEMENT.
>> I WOULD ASSUME SO BUT I
HAVEN'T TALK TALKED TO HER SINCE
THEN.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS GONE
AFTER YOU DIRECTLY WHEN TALKING
ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SOMETHING HE
SAID.
>> AL GORE WANTS TO ELIMINATE
THE COMBUSTION ENGINE,
ESSENTIALLY.
AND FLIES AROUND THE WORLD ON
JETS AND PUSHES PLANTS THAT
WOULD HELP CREATE CHINA.
MAKE IT STRONGER.
>> THIS IS A CRITICISM
CONSERVATIVES ALL THE TIME IN
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU OR
ELON MUSK.
YOU YOURSELF HAVE A LARGE CARBON
FOOTPRINT?
>> WELL, I DON'T HAVE A PRIVATE
JET AND WHAT THE CARBON
EMISSIONS COME FROM MY TRIPS ON
SOUTHWEST AIRLINES ARE OFFSET.
I LIVE A CARBON-FREE LIFESTYLE
TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT POSSIBLE.
BUT THE POINT IS, OUR WHOLE
COUNTRY AND OUR ENTIRE RONALD
HAS TO CHANGE.
AND WE ARE BEGINNING TO CHANGE.
TODAY WE'LL PUT ANOTHER 110
MILLION TONS OF HEAT-TRAPPING
POLLUTION UP THERE.
WE'RE TREATING THE SKY AS AN
OPEN SEWER.
NOW WE SEE THE CLIMATE-RELATED
EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS VIRTUALLY
EVERY DAY.
EVERY ON THE NEWS IS LIKE A HIKE
THROUGH THE BOOK OF REVELATION.
WE'VE SEEN SOMETHING ELSE.
NOW WE HAVE THE SOLUTIONS TO THE
CLIMATE CRISIS.
THEY CAN CREATE TENS OF MILLIONS
OF NEW JOBS.
SO THE DIRECTION TO MOVE IN THE
FUTURE IS VERY CLEAR.
WE'RE NOW SEEING GOVERNORS AND
MAYORS AND BUSINESSES AND CIVIC
LEADERS REALLY BEGINNING TO MOVE
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE WHITE
HOUSE SAYS.
I WAS IN ONE OF THE MOST
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN CITIES
IN THE COUNTRY, GEORGETOWN,
TEXAS RECENTLY.
THEY HAVE GONE 100% RENEWABLE IN
AN OIL STATE.
WHY?
BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER.
THEY'RE PROUD OF THE FACT
THEY'RE PUTTING LESS POLLUTION
IN THE SKY.
THEY DID IT BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER
AND IT'S CREATING EMPLOYMENT.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
HILLARY CLINTON.
BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONLY OTHER
LIVING PERSON WHO HAS EXPERIENCE
WHAT SHE'S LIVING.
WHICH IS YOU WON THE POPULAR
VOTE AND YET THE ELECTORAL VOTE
DIDN'T WORK OUT.
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE
FLORIDA RECOUNT NOW.
I'M SURE YOU DON'T EITHER.
BUT WHAT IS SHE GOING THROUGH?
WHAT IS IT LIKE TO ACTUALLY THE
SUPPORT OF MORE VOTERS BUT NOT
BE ABLE TO WALK INTO THE WHITE
HOUSE TO TAKE THE JOB.
>> SHE'S A STRONG PERSON AND I'M
SURE SHE'S GOING TO BE FINE.
IN MY OWN CASE, I LEARNED
EARLIER IN MY LIFE THAT THERE
ARE WORSE THINGS THAN HAVING A
SUPREME COURT DECISION GO
AGAINST YOU.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE
ENCOUNTER IN OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIFE
WHO HAVE INCREDIBLE BURDENS THAT
THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT.
I'M SO FINE.
AND I'M SURE SHE'S GOING TO BE
FINE, TOO.
>> I DO WANT TO GET ONE LAST
THOUGHT FROM YOU ON THE
PRESIDENT'S DECISION ON THE
CLIMATE CHANGE DEAL.
YOU'VE BEEN VERY OPTIMISTIC IN
YOUR REMARKS TODAY TALKING ABOUT
HOW THE UNITED STATES IS MOVING
ALONG TOWARD THE DIRECTION YOU
WANT IT TO, EVEN IF PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS NOT GOING ALONG.
IN YOUR INITIAL REMARKS AND YOUR
INITIAL RESPONSE TO WHAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP DECIDED TO DO,
YOU SEEMED MORE UPSET.
YOU SEEMED TO THINK IT WAS A
BIGGER DEAL.
A DISASTER OF SORTS
>>WELL, YEAH, I THINK IT WAS
RECKLESS, I THINK IT WAS
INDEFENSIBLE AND UNDERMINES
AMERICA'S STANDING IN THE WORLD
AND THREATENS THE ABILITY OF
HUMANITY TO SOLVE THE CLIMATE
CRISIS.
THE DECISION WAS TERRIBLY
MISTAKEN DECISION, BUT IN THE
AFTERMATH OF THAT DECISION, WE
NEED TO MOVE FORWARD REGARDLESS
OF WHAT HE DECIDES.
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, THAT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
PROVIDE LEADERSHIP EVEN IF
PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL NOT PROVIDE
LEADERSHIP.
>> WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP?
HE LIKES TO WATCH CABLE TV.
HE MIGHT BE WATCHING THIS
MINUTE.
>> I THINK THAT HE'S KIND OF
TAKEN HIMSELF OUT OF THE CLIMATE
DEBATE.
THE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE -- HAVE
SAID THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TALK
WITH HIM ABOUT CLIMATE ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, EVERY COUNTRY IN THE
WORLD IS ON THIS TRAIN THAT IS
LEAVING THE STATION.
EXCEPT FOR SYRIA.
THEY'VE GOT THEIR HANDS FULL.
NICARAGUA SAID IT WASN'T STRONG
ENOUGH FOR THEM.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY OTHER
COUNTRIES THAT STAND WITH DONALD
TRUMP.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
MOVE FORWARD REGARDLESS.
>> IT'S BEEN 17 YEARS SINCE I
SAT DOWN WITH YOU, DON'T LET IT