CONTROVERSY IN THE LAST 18 HOURS.
SO, WHAT'S THE STORY OF MUELLER? >> CONTROVERSY KEEPS US IN
BUSINESS SO IT'S A GOOD THING. LOOK, I THINK THAT THERE IS VERY
SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT DIRECTOR MUELLER RUNNING THIS SPECIAL
PROSECUTION OF THE PRESIDENT. I THINK IT'S A THREAT TO THE
TRUMP PRESIDENCY. I THINK THAT THE WAY THE
INVESTIGATION IS SHAPING UP, HE'S OUT TO GET THE PRESIDENT.
THERE IS A VERY GOOD CASE TO BE MADE THAT HE IS AN ILLEGITIMATE
SPECIAL COUNSEL. I SPOKE TO CONGRESSMAN DEE
SANTOS, HE'S A FORM HARVARD LAW GRAD.
HE SAID THE LAW IS VERY SPECIFIC.
THERE HAS TO BE AN UNDERLYING CRIMINAL PROBE TO TRIGGER THE
SPECIAL COUNSEL. THE FBI WAS VERY EMPHATIC --
>> THE SOUND BITE FROM DIRECTOR COMEY, HE SAID THERE WAS
SOMETHING. >> WELL, HE SAID THEY WERE
LOOKING AT COLLUSION. ACTUALLY THE FBI WAS VERY
EMPHATIC FOR MANY MONTHS SAYING IT WAS NOT A CRIMINAL PROBE, IT
WAS A COUNTER INTELLIGENCE PROBE.
AND, IN FACT, ROSENSTEIN WAS ASKED BY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND
I'M TOLD HE DID NOT HAVE A GOOD EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THIS ALL
HAPPENED. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, GRETA,
WE'VE GONE ON FOR NOW SIX MONTHS.
THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF A CRIME. THERE'S NOT EVEN ACTUALLY A
SERIOUS ALLEGATION OF A CRIME COMMITTED BY THE PRESIDENT OR O
ANY OF HIS SUBORDINATES. THIS IS ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE FLYNN INVESTIGATION, EASTERN DISTRICT
OF VIRGINIA, THERE IS A GRAND JURY THAT IS INVESTIGATING FLYNN
AND HE WAS PART OF THE TRANSITION TEAM, PART OF THE
WHITE HOUSE. >> A SEPARATE MATTER THAT HE
RECEIVED PAYMENTS AND DIDN'T PROPERLY DISCLOSE IT ON HIS
APPLICATION. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
PRESIDENT. >> BUT HE'S ALSO -- THERE IS
ALSO AN INVESTIGATION, I THINK, BECAUSE THESE ARE LEAKS, IS THAT
A FALSE STATEMENT POSSIBLY TO THE FBI, POSSIBLY.
>> COULD BE VERY SERIOUS, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THAT
RUSSIAN COLLUSION THING COMEY WAS TALKING ABOUT.
EVERYBODY IS THROWING IN ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
PAUL MANAFORT'S PROBLEMS. THESE HAVE NOTHING TO DO
WHICH -- ALL THESE INVESTIGATIVE AGENCIES WERE VERY CLEAR AND
COMEY HAD BEEN CLEAR TO THE PRESIDENT AND OTHERS SAYING THAT
THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION.
JAMES CLAPPER WAS ON MEET THE PRESS AS YOU KNOW WITH CHUCK
TODD. HE SAID NO EVIDENCE OF
COLLUSION. >> SO WHO SHOULD DEVELOPING
THIS? >> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK
CONGRESS. CONGRESS FROM THE CONSTITUTION
HAS THE OVERSIGHT ROLE. WE SAW IN THE TESTIMONY TODAY
WITH MR. SESSIONS, WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, HE'S BEEN
COOPERATING. THEY'VE BEEN HELPING CONGRESS.
NOBODY HAS EVER TOLD THE CONGRESS TO CLOSE UP.
THE FBI PROBE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE FBI INVESTIGATION.
THERE WAS NEVER ANY, ANY EVIDENCE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE --
>> DO YOU THINK THAT MUELLER IS GOING TO GET FIRED?
>> NO. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF STEPS THE
PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE TO TAKE, HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANY CHANCE
THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO EXERT ANY PRESSURE TO FIRE MUELLER?
>> SO, I REPORTED THAT HE IS -- HE HAS CONSIDERED THAT OPTION.
LOOK, THE PRESIDENT IS A VERY SAVVY NEGOTIATOR.
I THINK HE'S PROBABLY THE MOST SAVVY NEGOTIATOR EVER BEEN IN
THE OVAL OFFICE. AND IF YOU READ ART OF THE DEAL,
IT SAYS IT. KEEP ALL YOUR OPTIONS OPEN.
NEVER REVEAL. >> YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS
WITH THAT, CHRIS? IF THERE WAS SUCH A SAVVY
DWOSHER, WE WOULD HAVE HEALTH CARE REFORM.
>> HE'S NOT A MAGICIAN. HE SHOWED UP IN WASHINGTON A FEW
MONTHS AGO. HE THOUGHT THAT THE CONGRESS
COULD PUSH A LOT OF THIS THING, I THINK ON HIS LEARNING CURVE AS
PRESIDENT -- MY EXPERIENCE IS DONALD TRUMP IS AN EXTREMELY
QUICK LEARNER. HE COMES IN, HE FIGURES OUT WHAT
DOESN'T WORK. HE'S FIGURED OUT PAUL RYAN
DOESN'T WORK FOR HIM. >> WHAT'S THE STORY WITH YOU AND
SEAN SPICER? >> LOOK, I'M NOT A FLACK FOR THE
WHITE HOUSE. I SPEAK MY OWN MIND.
I'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH THE PRESIDENT FOR A LONG TIME.
I'LL SAY VERY POSITIVE THINGS WHEN THEY'RE WARRANTED.
I WILL BE CRITICAL AT TIMES. SEAN SPICER DID NOT LIKE MY
COMMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT, AFTER ALL OF THIS BROUHAHA OVER
THE PAST 24 HOURS, THE WHITE HOUSE HAS STILL NOT ISSUED A
STATEMENT SAYING THAT MY COMMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS
CONSIDERING FIRING THE DIRECTOR MUELLER, THAT THAT WAS WRONG, OR
THAT THE PRESIDENT STANDS BY OR WILL KEEP MUELLER.
SO, I'M WAITING FOR THAT STATEMENT JUST LIKE YOU ARE.
>> ANY CHANCE SINCE YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT, ANY CHANCE
THERE ARE TAPES? >> I DOUBT IT.
I INTERPRETED THAT COMMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT SAYING, LOOK, IF
THERE WERE TAPES, I WOULD BE COMPLETELY VINDICATED.
AND, OF COURSE, GO BACK TO THE ART OF THE DEAL.
HE'S KEEPING COMEY AND EVERYONE --
>> HE HAS TO STOP PLAYING THIS, THOUGH.
HE HAS TO STOP PLAYING EVERYBODY.
HE DANGLES ALL THIS STUFF OUT AND IT REALLY DOES TAKE HIM OFF
MESSAGE. TAKE HIM OFF THE JOB OF
GOVERNING. >> I THINK THE MESSAGING PROBLEM
IS REALLY BAD. LOOK, THE WHITE HOUSE
COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE WHICH IS SPICER, I THINK LOOK AT THEIR
WORK PRODUCT. IT'S NOT VERY GOOD.
BUT THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF A