WHERE WE ARE NOW. >> SPEAKING OF SECRETARY MATTIS,
DAVID IGNATIUS IN A MOMENT, TRUMP'S REACTION TO THE TERROR
ATTACKS WAS IN CONTRAST TO THE RESPONSE TO HIS SECRETARY OF
DEFENSE JAMES MATTIS. >> I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT
YET, THE DETAILS. LET ME GET UP TO DATE AND I'LL
TALK TO YOU ON THE PLANE. >> WHAT -- THE LONDON POLICE
SAYING THIS IS A TERRORIST ATTACK, TWO DEAD, DOZENS
WOUNDED. >> I NEED TO CONFIRM EVERYTHING.
I LIKE LEARNING ABOUT SOMETHING BEFORE I TALK.
LET ME LOOK SPOKE IT. >> REALLY?
THAT'S GOOD. AT LEAST SOMEONE IN THE WHITE
HOUSE DOES. >> DAVID IGNATIUS, THAT'S
ACTUALLY HOW LEADERS USUALLY ACT.
SECRETARY MATTIS IS THE BEST OF THE BEST.
>> IT'S NOT FUNNY, THOUGH. >> THAT'S CLASSIC MATTIS.
I'VE HEARD HIM SAY THAT MORE THAN ONCE.
COULD WE PLEASE GET THE FACTS BEFORE I SPAT OUT AN OPINION.
MATTIS IS IN A REALLY DIFFICULT POSITION.
HE IS TRYING VERY HARD TO MAINTAIN HIS CONTACT WITH THE
WHITE HOUSE, NOT GET OUT OF STATE WITH THE PRESIDENT.
HE NEVER KNOWS WHERE HE'S STEPPING.
BE A RESPONSIBLE LEADER FOR THE MILITARY.
HE'S WALKING THAT FINE LINE EVERY DAY.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT, WHERE HE
FEELS HE HAS TO SPEAK OUT. I THINK HE REALLY DOESN'T WANT
TO. HE'D REALLY LIKE TO KEEP IT
ZIPPED. HE'S USED TO BEING A GENERAL AND
KEEPING IT ZIPPED. THIS TRIP ILLUSTRATED HOW
DIFFICULT THAT'S GETTING. >>> CORGI OUT RAIDS THIS
MORNING, SO FAR 12 PEOPLE ARRESTED IN EAST LONDON.
SATURDAY'S VIOLENCE MARKED THE THIRD INCIDENT ON BRITISH SOIL
IN AS MANY MONTHS. SPEAKING YESTERDAY PRIME
MINISTER THERESA MAY CALLED ON CITIZENS TO UNITE AGAINST
ATTACKS LIKE THESE. >> WHILE WE HAVE MADE
SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN RECENT YEARS, THERE IS, TO BE FRANK,
FAR TOO MUCH TOLL RHYTHM OF EXTREMISM IN OUR COUNTRY.
SO WE NEED TO BECOME FAR MORE ROBUST IDENTIFYING IT AND
STAMPING IT OUT ACROSS PUBLIC SECTOR AND ACROSS SOCIETY.
THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME DIFFICULT AND OFTEN EMBARRASSING
CONVERSATIONS. BUT THE WHOLE OF OUR COUNTRY
NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER TO TAKE ON THIS EXTREMISM, AND WE NEED
TO LIVE OUR LIVES NOT IN A SERIES OF SEPARATED, SEGREGATED
COMMUNITIES BUT AS ONE TRULY UNITED KINGDOM.
WE MUST NOT AND CANNOT PRETEND
THINGS CAN CONTINUE THE WAY THEY ARE.
>> THERESA MAY WAS SEEN AS TOUGH SECRETARY, A POSITION SHE MORE
THAN ANYBODY ELSE WAS ABLE TO HOLD ONTO BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A
DIFFICULT POSITION. IT'S IRONIC IT COMES UP THE
ELECTION, A SERIES OF ATTACKS NOW.
>> IT'S CLEARLY SHE'S HOPING GOING TO PLAY TO HER REPUTATION
AS TOUGH HOME SECRETARY. SHE CAME OUT AND MADE THIS
STRONG STATEMENT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
HOWEVER I FOUND ENOUGH IS ENOUGH A SLIGHTLY ODD PHRASE TO USE,
SEEMS TO SUGGEST A CERTAIN AMOUNT IS TOLERABLE AND NOW
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. LALG OUT SOME THINGS, RELOOK AT
TERRORISM STRATEGY, STRONGER SENTENCES.
SHE WANTS IT CLAMP DOWN ON TECH COMPANIES.
SHE WANTS AN INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT.
SHE SAYS WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
THESE GUYS NEED TO DO MORE. THAT IS FOR ALL OF US GOING TO
BE ONE OF THE BIG SUBJECTS. >> IT REALLY IS A NEW FRONTIER.
WE HAVE POLICE IN THE STREET SHOULD BE POLICING THIS SPIRE
WORLD ONLINE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
I THINK IT RAPIDLY COMES UP TO SOMETHING QUITE DANGEROUS.
WHAT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO SAY THEY
SHOULD BE POLICING. KIND OF INFRINGEMENT ON FREE
SPEECH. >> ANOTHER INTERESTING THING
ABOUT HER SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH THE FACT SHE HAS BEEN ONE
OF THE LONGEST SERVING HOME SECRETARIES.
THIS HAS PENA NIETO -- >> THAT'S SOMETHING THE LEADER
OF THE OPPOSITION WHO, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN SURGING IN THE
POLLS WAS QUICK TO JUMP ON. HE WAS SAYING WE HAVE A POLICE
SOURCE STRAPPED OF SOURCES. JUMPED ON SHE HAS BEEN HOME
SECRETARY, THIS IS HER BAILIWICK.
>> IF YOU HAVE 3,000 PEOPLE CONSIDERED BY METROPOLITAN
POLICE AND SCOTLAND YARD TO BE HARDENED JIHADIST, 20,000 PEOPLE
CLOSE TO THAT CIRCLE, CAN YOU THINK ABOUT THE COVERAGE, THE
MONITORING, MOVEMENTS OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, THE CONVERSATIONS,
EVEN IN THE MOST INTRUSIVE SOCIETIES.
THE SCALE OF THE POLICE -- YOU CAN BE SUCCESSFUL 99.9% OF THE
TIME AND YOU WILL HAVE THE SORT OF THING YOU SAW THE LAST COUPLE
OF DAYS. THE SCALE OF THIS PROBLEM, THE
NATURE OF THIS PROBLEM IS TRULY WORRY MAKE.
>> THE QUESTION, THOUGH, WHY BRITAIN?
IS IT THE ELECTION COMING UP? >> WHO KNOWS?
RETURN ISIS FIGHTERS. I FEAR THIS KIND OF LOW TECH
ATTACK IS SOMETHING THAT -- I HATE TO SAY THIS, PART OF THE
NEW NORMAL. AT SOME POINT WHAT ARE YOU GOING
TO DO? AS RICHARD SAYS, LEVEL OF
SURVEILLANCE, NOT WHAT FRANCE IS DOING, FRANCE HAS ESSENTIALLY
GOT A STATE OF EMERGENCY PRETTY MUCH AFTER ITS ATTACKS, DO WE
WANT TO LIVE IN THOSE KINDS OF SOCIETIES.
>> AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE ATTACKS.
YOU LOOK AT THE ATTACK AT THE MANCHESTER CONCERT, IT WASN'T
INSIDE. IT WAS THE OUTSIDE.
IT WAS THE OUTERS RINGS. THE SECURITY FORCE IS HOLDING