SECURITY AND STABILITY. >> YOU SAID JUST A COUPLE OF
DAYS AGO, AND REPEATED AGAIN YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE
BELIEVES CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL OR WHETHER OR NOT HUMANS HAVE
IMPACTED IT. HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO
HIM ABOUT THAT? >> I SAID OUR CONVERSATIONS HAVE
BEEN ON THE MERITS AND DEMERITS OF THE PARIS DEAL.
>> IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE NEVER TALKED TO HIM ABOUT
WHETHER CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL OR IMPACT BID HUMANS?
>> THE FOCUS OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS AND HAS BEEN ON THE MERITS
AND DEMERITS OF THE PARIS ACCORD.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, LOOK, HE TOOK INPUT FROM A
VARIETY OF HIS CABINET, VERY INFORMED, THOUGHTFUL APPROACH.
IT TOOK WEEKS OF OOH EVALUATING THIS.
HE PUT AMERICA FIRST WITH RESPECT TO THIS DECISION.
>> AND CLIMATE CHANGE NEVER CAME UP IN THOSE MEETINGS?
>> I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU. HE ALSO EMPHASIZED IN HIS SPEECH
THURSDAY THE IMPORTANCE OF ENGAGEMENT.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEING MISSED IN THIS.
THE PRESIDENT DID NOT EXIT PARIS.
HE EXITED PARIS BECAUSE IT'S A BAD DEAL AND WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE ENGAGEMENT ON CO2 REDUCTION, PART OF THE CCC AS
YOU KNOW. WE LED THE WORLD WITH RESPECT TO
LOOK AT THE DECISION MADE IN PARIS, RUSSIA, INDIA, CHINA --
INDIA DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY STEPS UNTIL THEY RECEIVED $2.5
TRILLION OF AID. CHIEN RA DIDN'T TAKE ANY STEPS
UNTIL THE YEAR 20306789 WE FRONT LOADED ALL OF OUR COSTS, COSTING
UP TO 400,000 JOBS. >> SO AT ITS CORE IT'S ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE HUMAN IMPACT ON IT.
>> THE FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSION WAS ON THE MERITS AND TEE MERITS
OF WHAT PARIS SOUGHT TO ACHIEVE. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE
WHOLE DISCUSSION, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS ACHIEVED.
>> MR. PRUITT, IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION.
MR. PRUITT, IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION.
HAVE YOU EVER TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT ABOUT WHETHER HE
BELIEVES CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL? DOES HE STILL BELIEVE IT WAS A
HOAX LAUNCHED IN CHINA? >> I THINK, JOE --
>> WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO KNOW? >> I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT,
JOE, IS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID WHEN YOU MAKE DECISIONS ON
ENVIRONMENTAL DECISIONS INTERNATIONALLY THAT WE PUT
AMERICA'S INTEREST FIRST. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT.
>> THE PRESIDENT SAID THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING.
CONFIRMATION PROCESS -- >> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET AN
ANSWER FROM YOU. I AGREE, WE SHOULD ALWAYS PUT
AMERICA FIRST I DISAGREE WITH GETTING OUT OF PARIS BECAUSE
IT'S VOLUNTARY. THE GOALS SET WERE VOLUNTARY.
BUT I JUST WANT -- IT'S IMPORTIMPORTANT FOR AMERICANS T
KNOW -- IT'S IMPORTANT FOR AMERICANS TO KNOW WHETHER THEIR
PRESIDENT BELIEVES THAT GLOBAL WARMING WAS HATCHED AS A
CONSPIRACY THEORY IN CHINA. DOESN'T THAT MATTER TO YOU?
>> WITH RESPECT TO THE VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT, THE 26 TO 28%, WE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT DOMESTICALLY THIRD
PARTY LAWSUITS, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE LITIGATION WHERE THE
EPA HAS SUED AND COMPELS REGULATORY RESPONSE.
>> RIGHT. >> WITH THE FRAMERS OF THE PARIS
ACCORD UNDERSTOOD IS THAT AMERICA WOULD TAKE REGULATORY
STEPS TO CARRY OUT THAT 26 TO 28% REDUCTION.
WHEN WE'RE WITHDRAWING ENERGY INDEPENDENT ORDER, THAT CREATES
A GAP OF ALMOST 60%. IT CREATED EXPOSURE WITH RESPECT
TO OBLIGATIONS. >> SO, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.
I'VE GOT TO STOP. I WANT TO STOP IT.
THIS INTERVIEW HAS TO STOP IN ITS TRACKS UNTIL I JUST GET A
YES, NO ANSWER FROM YOU ON WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT AMERICANS FIND OUT WHETHER THEIR PRESIDENT
BELIEVES THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS A CONSPIRACY THEORY BASED OUT OF
CHINA. >> THE PRESIDENT HAS INDICATED,
JOE, THAT THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING.
I INDICATED DURING MY CONFIRMATION PROCESS THAT
THERE'S A WARMING TREND WITH RESPECT TO THE CLIMATE.
AND, MOREOVER THERE'S A HUMAN CONTRIBUTION TO IT.
MEASURING THAT WITH PRECISION IS VERY DIFFICULT.
THE REAL QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?
WHAT WE'VE DONE AS A COUNTRY IS LEAD THROUGH INNOVATION AND
TECHNOLOGY. AS I INDICATED SINCE THE YEAR
2000, A REDUCTION OF OVER 18% IN THAT CO2 FOOTPRINT THROUGH
HYDRAULIC FRACTURING, HORIZONTAL DRILLING.
YOU DON'T HEAR THAT FROM THE