John Kasich full 'State of the Union' interview

DEATHS COULD QUADRUPLE THIS
YEAR.
THE BUCKEYE STATE'S REPUBLICAN
SENATOR ROB PORTMAN SAYS HE'S
CONCERNED THAT THE BILL DOESN'T
DO ENOUGH TO HELP OPIOID
ADDICTS, GETTING HELP UNDER
OBAMACARE.
THE STATE'S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR,
JOHN KASICH, WHO JOINS THOSE
CONCERNS, JOINS ME LIVE FROM
COLUMBUS, OHIO.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME.
I'LL START RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
IS THIS A GOOD BILL FOR THE
PEOPLE OF OHIO?
>> WELL, THERE'S A FEW ASPECTS
OF IT THAT HAVE IMPROVED.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE PHASE OUT OF
MEDICARE EXPANSION OVER SIX OR
SEVEN YEARS IS AN IMPROVEMENT.
BUT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DOLLARS
THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEDICATED
TO MEDICAID ARE NOT ENOUGH.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES THERE.
AND I'VE BEEN VERY CONCERNED
HERE IN MY STATE ABOUT TREATING
THE MENTALLY ILL, THE DRUG
ADDICTED, THE CHRONICALLY ILL,
PARTICULARLY UNDER MEDICAID
EXPANSION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE
MEDICAID PIE, THERE ARE HUGE
CHALLENGES TO IT.
THE RESOURCES ARE JUST NOT
THERE.
I THINK WE'LL FIND OVER A
TEN-YEAR PERIOD, MEDICAID
FUNDING WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY
CURTAILED AND NOT COMPANIED, AT
THIS POINT, WITH THE KIND OF
FLEXIBILITY WE NEED,
PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO
THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES
WHERE WE NEED GREATER
FLEXIBILITY.
WE WILL BE LOOKING AT NOT JUST
AFFECTING THOSE WHO ARE DRUG
ADDICTED, BUT CHILDREN, SENIORS,
THE DISABLED.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE EXCHANGE
SIDE, WHERE I JUST HEARD THE
SECRETARY TALKING, HE SAID THERE
ARE COUNTIES THAT WON'T BE
SERVED BY INSURANCE COMPANIES.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE BILL IN THE
SENATE IS THAT IT ELIMINATES THE
SUBSIDIES TO THE INSURANCE
COMPANIES AFTER TWO YEARS, WHICH
CREATES MORE INSTABILITY AND
MORE CONFUSION.
NOBODY IS SAYING -- NOBODY, NOT
MY COLLEAGUES ON THE DEMOCRATIC
SIDE, NO ONE IS SAYING THAT THIS
DOESN'T NEED TO BE FIXED.
OF COURSE IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
BUT CANNOT DO IT IN A WAY WHERE
YOU DRIVE PEOPLE OF THE
RESOURCES THEY NEED TO HAVE A
STABLE PROGRAM.
>> SO, GIVEN THAT --
>> AND THEN ON THE EXCHANGE
SIDE, DANA, IF YOU DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH RESOURCES IN THERE, THEN
THE KIND OF HEALTH INSURANCE
THAT PEOPLE CAN BUY IS
COMPLETELY INADEQUATE.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY.
NOBODY WOULD WANT TO LIVE UNDER
THAT.
>> GIVEN THE PROBLEMS YOU JUST
LAID OUT, DO YOU THINK THAT
SENATOR PORTMAN OF OHIO SHOULD
VOTE NO?
>> WELL, I DON'T THINK THE
BILL'S ADEQUATE NOW.
UNLESS IT GETS FIXED, I WOULD --
LOOK, I'M AGAINST IT.
I'M NOT AGAINST IT JUST BECAUSE
I WANT TO BE AGAINST IT.
THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THESE
BILLS, IN THESE PROVISIONS THAT
ARE AN IMPROVEMENT.
MY JOB, AS I SEE MY JOB AS A
GOVERNOR OF THE STATE, NOT AS A
REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, BUT THE
GOVERNOR OF THIS STATE, MY JOB
IS TO LOOK NOT JUST TODAY, BUT
IN THE OUTYEARS, AT THE IMPACT
IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON PEOPLE
WHO -- WHO NEED HELP.
DEIGNA I WAS AT A RESTAURANT ON
FRIDAY.
AND I WAS AT A WENDY'S ACTUALLY.
THERE WAS A PARTITION.
I LOOKED OVER AT THE PEOPLE THAT
HAD GATHERED THERE AND THERE
WERE ABOUT -- I DON'T KNOW, 25
KIDS.
ALL OF THEM WERE HERE IN
COLUMBUS FOR SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
AND I LOOKED AT THEM AND
THOUGHT, ARE THESE PEOPLE BEING
SERVED?
ARE THEY GOING TO BE SERVED BY
THIS BILL IN THE FUTURE?
MY CONCLUSION RIGHT NOW IS NO.
CAN WE IMPROVE THIS BILL?
I THINK THEY COULD IMPROVE IT.
I HOPE THEY DO.
>> IF THERE IS NO IMPROVEMENT,
JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU ARE
ENCOURAGING YOUR SENATOR AND
OTHERS -- I MEAN, YOU ARE
ASKING -- YOU'RE ENCOURAGIE ING
REPUBLICANS TO VOTE AGAINST THIS
UNLESS IT'S IMPROVED?
>> NO.
WHAT I'M ENCOURAGING THEM TO DO
IS FIX IT.
I'M GOING TO BE -- I JUST WROTE
A LETTER WITH A BUNCH OF
DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS AND
REPUBLICAN GOVERNOS, OKAY, AND
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, LET'S WORK
TOGETHER ON THIS.
LET'S NOT RUSH SOMETHING
THROUGH.
LET'S HAVE TRANSPARENCY.
IF YOU DON'T, THIS BILL IS NOT
SUSTAINABLE.
I'M NOT JUST SAYING, KILL THE
BILL.
LET'S GET SOMETHING THAT WILL
WORK, CREATE A STABILIZING --
ALL THESE ISSUES AROUND
INSURANCE AND COVERAGE AND THEN
GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER,
WHICH IS THE RISING COSTS OF
HEALTH CARE, FRANKLY, WHICH THIS
BILL DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO DO.
>> GOVERNOR, THE TRUMP/PENCE
SUPER PAC ANNOUNCED IT WILL RUN
ADS AGAINST SENATOR DEAN HELLER,
WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST
VULNERABLE REPUBLICANS UP FOR
RE-ELECTION NEXT YEAR BECAUSE HE
SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE BILL, NOT
UNLIKE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.
LET'S LISTEN TO THAT AD.
>> SENATOR HELLER HAS MADE HIS
OPTION CLEAR, THAT IT IS
UNACCEPTABLE TO MILLIONS OF
AMERICANS SUFFERING UNDER
OBAMACARE.
HELLER IS NOW STANDING WITH
PELOSI.
UNACCEPTABLE.
IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THIS BILL,
WE ARE OPPOSED TO YOU.
>> IS IT SMART FOR A REPUBLICAN
GROUP TO TARGET A FELLOW
REPUBLICAN LIKE THAT?
>> DANA, THIS IS THE 21st
CENTURY.
THIS IS THE CRAZIEST TIME I'VE
EVER SEEN IN POLITICS AND MAYBE
THIS IS A SIGNAL.
THAT INSTEAD OF PEOPLE JUST
CONFESSING THEIR LOYALTY TO ONE
PARTY OR THE OTHER, MAYBE THEY
OUGHT TO BE CONFESSING THEIR
LOYALTY TO THE COUNTRY.
AND, LOOK, I'VE BEEN ATTACKED
ALL OF MY CAREER.
AND THE FACT IS THAT YOU'VE GOT
TO STAND UP ON YOUR OWN TWO
FEET, EXPLAIN HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT
THINGS AND BE A LEADER.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH
LEADERSHIP.
I THINK TOO MANY PEOPLE COWER IN
THE WINGS BECAUSE OF
PARTISANSHIP.
NOT JUST REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS
AS WELL.
IF YOU TRY TO GET A GREAT NUMBER
OF GOVERNORS, REPUBLICAN OR
DEMOCRAT, TO SPEAK OUT ON THIS,
WHERE ARE THEY?
ALL YOU HEAR ARE CRICKETS AND
CHIRPING.
BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT
UPSETTING THEIR BASE.
>> OR GETTING ADS RUN AGAINST
THEM LIKE THAT.
>> PARDON?
>> OR HAVING --
>> WELL, SO WHAT?
IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A FASTBALL ON
THE INSIDE, GET OUT OF POLITICS.
IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A PITCH THROWN
AT YOU AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF
THE BATTER'S BOX, QUIT.
DON'T WHINE.
I DON'T THINK SENATOR HELLER IS
WHINING.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY NOT ONLY
HELLER BUT SANDOVAL, BRIAN
SANDOVAL IS A GREAT GOVERNOR.
HIS POPULARITY IS SKY HIGH IN
NEVADA AND HE'S SAYING I'M
WORRIED ABOUT POOR PEOPLE.
BOTH PARTIES OUGHT TO BE WORRIED
ABOUT POOR PEOPLE BECAUSE I
DON'T THINK EITHER PARTY
PARTICULARLY CARES ABOUT HELPING
POOR PEOPLE.
YOU LOOK AT THE RATES OF
POVERTY, THE PROBLEMS IN THIS
COUNTRY.
WE HAVE NOT DESIGNED A SYSTEM TO
GET PEOPLE WORK.
EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
NOW, GETTING PEOPLE HEALTHY,
GIVING THEM HEALTH CARE IS
DESIGNED TO GET THEM TO WORK.
IT'S DESIGNED TO GIVE THEM AN
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A BETTER
LIFE.
THIS IS NOT SOME KIND OF WEALTH
FAIR SYSTEM.
LOOK, IF YOU'RE SICK AND HUNGRY,
YOU DON'T WORK.
IF YOU'RE HEALTHY AND FED, YOU
CAN GET A JOB.
WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO HAVE ONE
THEN.
>> GOVERNOR, BEFORE WE GO I HAVE
TO ASK YOU DID RUN FOR PRESIDENT
AGAINST NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP.
YOU'RE PROUD OF THE FACT YOU
NEVER ENDORSED HIM.
HE TOOK A VICTORY LAP AFTER
WINNING A FOURTH SPECIAL
ELECTION CONTEST, AT LEAST
REPUBLICANS DID.
TAKE A LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID.
>> THEY HAVE PHONY WITCH HUNTS
GOING AGAINST ME.
THEY HAVE EVERYTHING GOING.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
ALL WE DO IS WIN, WIN, WIN.
WE WON LAST NIGHT.
>> DOES HE HAVE A POINT THAT
NEVER TRUMPERS, AND YOU ARE
PROBABLY STILL ONE OF THEM,
CAN'T BEAT HIM?
>> I'M NOT A NEVER TRUMPER.
I'M FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
WHEN HE SAID HE WASN'T GOING TO
KICK THE DREAMERS OUT OF THE
COUNTRY, I'LL PRAISE HIM.
BUT I'M ALSO CRITICIZE HIM WHEN
HE DOES STUFF THAT I DON'T AGREE
WITH, INCLUDING THE HEALTH CARE
BILL WHICH HE THEN CALLED MEAN.
WHICH I GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR.
2018 WILL BE A RACE ABOUT DO THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE A MESSAGE, WHICH
THEY SEEM NOT TO HAVE ONE, AND
CAN REPUBLICANS HOLD ON?
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY IS GOING
TO GO.
THE RACES HELD SO FAR HAVE BEEN
HELD PREDOMINANTLY IN REPUBLICAN
DISTRICTS.
THEY'VE WON.
GOOD FOR REPUBLICANS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THOUGH,
'18 IS A LONG WAY AWAY AND WE'LL
HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GET GREAT
RATINGS BECAUSE OF ALL THE
COVERAGE YOU'RE GOING O GIVE TO
THESE RACES.
IT'S GOING TO BE EXCITED.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE

John Kasich full 'State of the Union' interview

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