SECOND DAY OF DELIBERATIONS TODAY AFTER A BIZARRELY SHORT
SIX MINUTE PRESENTATION FROM THE DEFENSE.
THE JURY WILL
DECIDE WHETHER COSBY IS GUILTY OF THREE COUNTS OF
AGGRAVATED INDECENT ASSAULT, EACH OF WHICH CARRIES A POSSIBLE
10 YEAR SENTENCE.
TODAY, THEY WENT BACK TO THE JUDGE AND ASKED FOR QUESTIONS
SOME OF WHICH THEY ASKED HIM TO REPEAT PARTS OF COSBY'S
STATEMENTS TO AUTHORITIES AND ASKED THE COURT TO DEFINE THE
PHRASE WITHOUT HER KNOWLEDGE IN ONE OF THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM.
OBVIOUSLY, PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT CONSENT THERE.
JUST
FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACK OUR, THIS IS THE CASE OF ANDRE
CONSTAND, WHO IS JUST ONE OF ABOUT 60 WOMEN WHO HAVE COME
FORWARD AND ALLEGED THAT BILL COSBY SEXUALLY ASSAULTED THEM.
PROSECUTORS CALLED 12 WITNESSES OVER A WEEK OF TESTIMONY,
AND CONSTAND WAS CHIEF AMONG THEM.
IN CLEAR AND FIRM
TERMS, SHE SAID THE COSBY, A POWERFUL TEMPLE ALUM, MENTORED
HER AND TOOK AN INTEREST IN HER CAREER LIKE A FATHER FIGURE.
CONSTAND, WHO IS A FORMER TEMPLE UNIVERSITY STAFFER,
SAYS COSBY TOOK ADVANTAGE AS HIS ROLE AS HER MENTOR AND
SLIPPED HER PILLS THAT LEFT HER FROZEN AND UNABLE TO STOP
HIM FROM TOUCHING HER BREASTS AND GENITALS.
SHE MENTIONED A QUOTE THAT HE SAID WHEN HE WAS
DOING SO, SAYING PUT THEM DOWN, THEY'RE YOUR FRIENDS.
THEYíLL TAKE THE EDGE OFF.
THE PILLS?
HER PILLS ARE HER FRIENDS.
THEY WILL TAKE THE EDGE OFF.
DEFENSE ATTORNEYS ARGUED THAT THE SEXUAL CONTACT WAS PART
OF A CONSENTING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COSBY AND CON STAND
EVEN THOUGH COSBY HAS ADMITTED TO GIVING HER PILLS BUT
SAID THEY WERE THREE BENADRYL, NOT ANYTHING THAT WAS ANY
MORE EFFECTIVE OR A REGULAR RAPE DRUG THAT WE ARE USED TO SEEING.
THE COSBY DEFENSE PRESENTATION WAS STARTLED STUNNINGLY
FAST LIKE I MENTIONED THE BEGINNING.
THERE WAS ONE WITNESS, POLICE DETECTIVE, WHO WAS ON THE STAND
FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY SHARP
CONTRAST TO THE FIVE DAYS THAT THE PROSECUTION TOOK FOR THEIR
PRESENTATION BUT I WANT THE CALL TO LIGHT SOMETHING THAT I
THINK A LOT OF THE MEDIA IS MISSING IN THIS.
WHEN ALL THESE HEADLINES CAME OUT THEY WERE LIKE THEIR DEFENSE
WAS ONLY FIVE MINUTES, SIX MINUTES AND THEN THEY SAID THEY
RESTED AND THAT WAS REALLY THE FOCUS HERE BUT I WANT TO CALL TO
ATTENTION SOMETHING THEY SAID IN THE CLOSING ARGUMENT SAYING THAT
COSBY WAS A FLAWED MAN, AN UNFAITHFUL HUSBAND BUT ALSO A
BRILLIANT COMEDIAN WHO NOT ONLY TAUGHT US HOW TO SMILE BUT HOW
TO LOVE EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHAT WE LOOK LIKE THAT TO ME
THAT IS SO ABSOLUTELY DISTURBING, TO USE THAT AS SOME
SORT OF, MAYBE HE DID SOME MESSED UP STUFF, BUT HE
MADE A SLAP, GUYS THAT HE BROUGHT LOVE THE TELEVISIONS.
IN REAL LIFE, TOTAL PIECE OF SHED, BUT HE MADE US LAUGH
SO WHATEVER DIE HE RAPED A WOMAN.
THAT IS BRISKLY WHAT THEY ARE SAYING WHICH IS SO UNBELIEVABLY
MESSED UP AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT THEY PINNED THEIR ENTIRE
ARGUMENT ON WAS SHOWING THAT HE WAS A GOOD GUY AND NOT SHOWING,
NOT USING OTHER PEOPLE TO SORT OF AS WITNESSES TO SORT OF
DEFEND HIS ACTIONS BUT JUST SAYING, THAT YOU'VE SEEN
THEM ON TV, HE LIKES JELL-O.
HOW COULD SOMEBODY WHO LIKES JELL-O BE BAD?
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MISTER MCMONAGLE WHO IS THE
DEFENSE ATTORNEYS GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF EVENTS
BECAUSE THE WAY HE SPEAKS, IT IS ALMOST AS IF TO TOTALLY
MISUNDERSTAND HOW A VICTIM WOULD REACT AFTER THE FACT AND IT
IS A LOT OF, IT DOES SOUND LIKE VICTIM BLAMING.
WHY WOULD YOU STILL BE IN CONTACT WITH HIM?
IT PREYS ON A KEY MISUNDERSTANDING OF HOW A
VICTIMS MINDSET COULD BE AFTER THE TRAUMATIC EVENTS, AFTER
THIS.
IS GROSS TO ME HOW DIRTY YOU WOULD HAVE TO PLAY TO
MISCHARACTERIZE THAT.
I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK IT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING, ACTUALLY
THINK IT WAS VERY PURPOSEFUL.
A LOT OF THE TIMES IN RAPE CASES THEY WILL TRY TO MAKE THE VICTIM
LOOK LIKE THEY ARE UNSTABLE OR THAT THEY WANTED IT.
THEY ARE SAYING THAT IT WAS CONSENSUAL EVEN THOUGH HE
HAS ADMITTED TO GIVING HER PILLS AND NOT THAT THIS HAS TOO
MUCH WEIGHT, BUT SHE IS A LESBIAN.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PROVE THAT IT IS CONSENSUAL.
EVEN - I'M SORRY JOHN - CALLING THE BENADRYL YOUR LITTLE FRIEND.
WHICH DON'T.
RIGHT.
BUT IT'S NOT A RAPE DRUG PER SE, WHAT IS THE POINT OF POTENTIAL?
COSBY USE BENADRYL TO MAKE HIM SLEEPY.
YOU USE IT TO MAKE YOU
SLEEPY.
I DON'T SEE HOW THAT IS INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT FROM
THE POINT.
MIGHT BE WEAKER, BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY IT WASN'T
THE REALLY BAD DRUG HEíD THEORETICALLY USE TO RAPE HER.
I WOULD'VE GONE WITH A
DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT SORT OF DEFENSE
IS REALLY COMMON IN CASES LIKE THIS ARE THEY ARE BASICALLY
HOPING, PLEASE, JUST THINK HE IS A GOOD GUY AND SHE IS CLEARLY,
YOU DON'T KNOW HEARD THAT YOU KNOW HIM, YOU GREW UP WITH HIM.
HE IS PROBABLY NOT LYING.
YOU DON'T KNOW
HER, SHE'S PROBABLY DISHONEST FOR THE TV.
THEY ARE HOPING THAT PEOPLE BUY IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE A WEAK
DEFENSE THOUGH WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT THOSE JURORS HAVE GOT
TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT IS NOT LITERALLY, BEHIND HER,
59 OR SO OTHER WOMEN ARE SAYING HE HAS DONE THE SAME THING
OR POSSIBLY EVEN WORSE.
AT THAT POINT, I THINK SIMPLY SAYING HE IS A REPUTABLE
GUY, HE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THE THINGS THAT YOU THINK HE
DEAD OR THAT THEY ARE SAYING HE DID.
THAT DOESN'T HOLD UP WHEN YOU'VE GOT LITERALLY SCORES OF
WOMEN CLAIMING THAT HE HAS DONE SOME SORT OF ASSAULT.
2.1 THE COMMON ON.
THE FIRST ONE IS EVEN WHEN THE MEDIA IS TALKING ABOUT THIS
I DON'T THINK IT'S ON PURPOSE, BUT HONESTLY THEY ARE
TRYING TO THE SOURCE THE WAY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT COSBY.
SO THEY WILL BE LIKE SWEATER WEARING AMERICA'S DAD AND
STILL REALLY PAINTING HIM DIE WAS READING ONE OF THESE
ARTICLES, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS CNN OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT, BUT ONE OF THEM SAID SWEATER WEARING AMERICA'S DAD.
NO, YOU CAMPAIGN HIM IN THIS POSITIVE LIGHT BECAUSE THAT IS
GOING TO INFLUENCE THE WAY THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT HIM AND I THINK
THE OTHER POINT THAT YOU BRING UP WHEN TALKING ABOUT HOW OLD,
SHE'S PROBABLY IN THIS TO GET TV TIME OR BE IN THE LIMELIGHT, I
THINK ANYBODY, WHETHER THEY BE WOMAN OR MAN WHO HAS EXPERIENCED
ANY SORT OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS NO WAY THEY
WOULD VOLUNTARILY, ANYBODY WOULD VOLUNTARILY GO UNDER THE
SCRUTINY OF HAVING TO DEAL WITH ONE OF THESE CASES.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M SAYING THEY ARE SAYING IT,
NOT THAT SHE IS THE
SAYING FOR PEOPLE REMEMBER SAYING, SHE WANTS HER 15
MINUTES, THEY ARE DRAGGING THIS WOMAN AND SHE IS SO UNBELIEVABLY
BRAVE TO GO STAND UP FOR THOSE 60 WOMEN BEHIND HER.
I REALLY APPLAUD HER FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T EVEN
IMAGINE HOW DIFFICULT THIS MUST BE, HER DEALING WITH THAT
IN THE FIRST PLACE, DEALING WITH YEARS OF HAVING TO KNOW THAT
THAT HAPPENED AND HAVING THAT IN THE SCARS OF THAT, AND THEN
NOW HAVING TO TESTIFY AGAINST SWEATER WEARING AMERICA'S DAD.
POPPING AMERICA'S CREEPY UNCLE.
THEY SHOULD CHANGE IT.
IT IS VALIDATED TO DESCRIBE THEM, REQUESTER
I THINK IT IS TRUE.