RUN AFOUL OF A LEGEND OF
HIP-HOP.
HARVEY: BY THE WAY, I THINK
SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THIS.
CHARLES: A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND
OUR OFFICE WHO WERE TICKED OFF.
THEY HAVE A NEW LINE OF
T-SHIRTS, VINTAGE T-SHIRTS THEY
PUT OUT, THEY PUT THEIR IMAGE OR
LOGO OVER PEOPLE LIKE TUPAC AND
ALSO BIGGIE AND ALSO --
HARVEY: OZZY OSBOURNE.
CHARLES: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
BIGGIE'S MOM, VALETTA WALLACE,
RIPPED THEM WHEN SHE POSTED ONE
OF THE IMAGES AND SAID, LOOK,
THEY NEVER ASKED PERMISSION OF
THE ESTATE.
THEY NEVER CONTACTED ANYONE
CONNECTED WITH THE ESTATE TO
TALK ABOUT USING, TO ASK ABOUT
USING THE LIKENESS.
HARVEY: I CAN DOUBLE-DOWN ON
THIS THING BECAUSE I TALKED TO
SOMEBODY AND I CAN TELL YOU NOR
DID THEY GET PERMISSION FROM
TUPAC'S ESTATE.
I KNOW THIS NOW FOR A FACT.
THAT MAY BE WHY THEY TOOK THE
TUPAC SHIRT DOWN.
MY GUESS IS THEY GOT PERMISSION
FROM NOBODY.
THAT'S THE WAY IT LOOKED.
HARVEY: THEY WERE SELLING THE
T-SHIRTS $125 EACH.
CHARLES: THEY'RE NOT ON THE
SITE NOW.
WE CAN'T TELL IF IT'S SOLD OUT
OR THEY TOOK IT DOWN.
THERE HAS BEEN A BACKLASH.
VAN: DOESN'T IT GET TO A POINT
WHERE THEY HAVE TO HAVE DONE IT
ON PURPOSE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PICTURE,
WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT ME, A
PERSON WHO HAS DONATED A FAIR
SHARE OF MY LIFE TO LISTENING TO
AND ABSORBING TUPAC'S MUSIC AND
INFLUENCE AND ALL OF THAT, WHY
WOULD I BE OK WITH THAT IMAGE ON
TOP OF HIS BODY LIKE THAT?
NOT JUST ME, BUT A WHOLE BUNCH
OF OTHER PEOPLE.
HARVEY: THE KARDASHIANS HAVE
JEALOUSLY SAFEGUARDED THEIR OWN
BRAND AND THEY HAVE GONE AFTER
PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRIED TO EXPLOIT
IT.
THE BASIC RULE, WHEN YOU USE
SOMEONE'S NAME AND LIKENESS, YOU
HAVE TO GET THEIR PERMISSION.
THEY HAVE DEALT WITH THIS FOR
YEARS.
HOW IS IT THAT THEY DIDN'T --
CHARLES: WHAT IF THEY GOT
PERMISSION FROM THE PEOPLE WHO
TOOK THE PHOTO?
HARVEY: THEY KNOW THE RULE.
THEY KNOW THE RULE, YOU CAN'T
USE THE LIKENESS OF A
CELEBRITY --
ANTHONY: WE GOT A LETTER RIGHT
NOW THAT BIGGIE'S ESTATE HAS
FIRED OFF TO THE KARDASHIANS, A
CEASE AND DESIST, WE WANT TO
KNOW WHY YOU THOUGHT THIS, GIVE
US A CALL.
HARVEY: IT'S EVERYBODY, WHEN
YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE,
IT'S SUCH A BASIC RULE.
IT'S ONE THAT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY
USED TO ENFORCE.
SO HOW DID THEY DO THIS?
I DON'T THINK THEY WENT TO THEIR
NORMAL LAWYER ON THIS.
THE QUESTION IS HOW DO THEY END
UP DOING IT?
VAN: THEY WENT TO A SUBSTITUTE
LAWYER?
CHARLES: SOMEONE WAS ON
VACATION.
VAN: LEGAL ZOOM.COM?
HARVEY: I KNOW THE FIRM THEY
USE, THEY DO THE MICHAEL JACKSON
STUFF.
HOW MANY STORIES ON SUING ON
WATCHES AND THEY REPRESENT THE
OTHER SIDE.
CHARLES: INTERESTINGLY THEY
DIDN'T MAKE A T-SHIRT WITH
MICHAEL JACKSON.
HARVEY: IT'S WEIRD.
CALLER: I'M CALLING FROM L.A.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THE KARDASHIANS
TRY TO PUT THEMSELVES OVER THE
TOP OF ICONIC IMAGES.
PUT THEIR FACE ON THE MONA LISA
AND HANG IT UP IN A MUSEUM.
IT'S RIDICULOUS THEY CONSTANTLY
RIP OFF OTHER PEOPLE AND ACT
LIKE THEY ARE JUST AS ICONIC.
IF THEY WANT TO ACT LIKE BIGGIE,
THEY SHOULD DROP A MIX TAPE.
HARVEY: DID YOU HEAR WHAT
TORREI SAID, THEY'RE AS FAMOUS
AS TUPAC.
VAN: THAT WAS A GREAT CALLER.
CHARLES: THEY THINK THEY ARE AS
FAMOUS AS TUPAC, IS THAT WHAT
YOU SAID?
VAN: GET HER BACK ON.
CALLER: I THINK THEY WANT TO BE
AS ICONIC AND LEGENDARY AS TUPAC
AND BIGGIE AND THEY WILL NEVER
BE THERE.
CHARLES: YOU BESMIRCHED TORREI.