REPUBLICAN AND I'M NOT GOING TO CUT MEDICARE OR MEDICAID.
AND IF IF THEY WOULDN'T, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS.
I DO. >> AND BILL, YOU TWEETED "THE
GOP BILLS RAISE DEDUCTIBLES, CUTS COVERAGE AND SLASHES
MEDICAID. >> HE CAN'T EVEN NOW MAKE UP
HIS MIND.
HE PRAISES THE REPUBLICANSNS AN THEN CALLS THE BILL MEAN.
HE GOES GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD, AND SAID IT A LITTLE MEAN FOR ME.
THEY NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY. >> JOINING US IS ASSOCIATE
EDITOR OF "THE WASHINGTON POST" AND MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST
EUGENE ROBINSON AND EDITOR AT LARGE AT THE "WEEKLY STANDARD"
BILL KRYSTAL. >> WHAT WAS THAT?
>> YOU GUYS GET THAT WAY. >> YOU'RE SAYING HOLD OFF ON
VOTING FOR THIS BILL. LET'S SEE WHAT THE CONGRESSIONAL
BUDGET OFFICE SAYS AND WHY DON'T YOU READ THE DAMN BILL BEFORE
VOTING ON IT? >> IF THERE WAS SUCH A
REPUBLICAN MANTRA IN TWEEN AND NOT UNREASONABLY BECAUSE THERE
WERE ALL KIND OF PROBLEMS WITH BLAKE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN
AVERTED. >> AND HOW COULD THEY DO THIS
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHEN ALL THEY DID, STARTING WITH MITCH
McCONNELL AND EVERY REPUBLICAN AND WE DID IT, TOO, HOW CAN THEY
GO BEHIND THE SCENES AND DO A BILL THAT NOBODY EVEN READS, NOT
EVEN THEIR OWN MEMBERS. >> THERE'S A REASON THERE'S A
COMMITTEE SYSTEM AND THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED A COMMITTEE
THAT HAS JURISDICTION OVER HEALTH CARE AND THEY ARGUE ABOUT
THIS STUFF, WHAT DEDUCTIBLES GO UP OR NOT?
HAS ANYONE MADE THE CASE FOR THIS BILL?
>> NO. ZERO.
SO DONALD TRUMP SAID THE HOUSE BILL WAS TOO MAIN EVER.
>> DO YOU THINK McCONNELL WILL PUT IT ON THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE
BEFORE JULY 4 SNT. >> NO.
THERE'S ZERO PERCENT THAT McCONNELL WILL LET IT GO WITHOUT
KNOWING, THERE'S FOUR GUYS WHO ARE STILL NOT THERE.
HE'S NOT GOING TO PUT THEM THROUGH A HORRIBLE SERIES OF
VOTES WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK MEAN TO EVERY GROUP --
>> BUT HE HAD TO DO IT. >> WHAT DO I KNOW.
WE'RE UNLIKELY T TO SEE A VOTE THIS.
>> KASIE HUNT, EXPLAIN THE THINKING.
>> I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH BILL ON THAT.
ONE OF MY LONG-TIME FRIENDS IS WRITING IN "THE WASHINGTON POST"
THIS MORNING THAT THIS IS A PUT UP OR SHUT UP MOMENT.
McCONNELL IS SAYING HE DOESN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH HEALTH CARE
THE REST OF THE SUM I. IT GO THERE WAS NO PRESS
CONFERENCE FOR ME TO GO TO YESTERDAY.
>> SO HE LET IT IS GO NEXT WEEK. >> BUT THAT MEANS A VOTE ON THE
FLOOR, RIGHT, IF THEY DON'T VOTE ON IT?
>> JUST PULL IT, PULL IT. >> MITCH McCONNELL, WHO IS THE
SMARTEST GUY US THIS PUTTINGOUT OUT TO PUT THE ISSUE OF HEALTH
CARE BEHIND US I DO THINK IF THEY REALLY TRULY BELIEVE IF
THEY DON'T ROTE VOTE TO PASS SOMETHING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE
IN A LOT MORE TROUBLE. IF HE DOES PUT THIS -- I THINK
THEY'RE ON TRACK TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR BY THE END OF THE
WEEK. AND IT MAY DO IT THAT THEY DO IT
WITHOUT 50 BOATS. >> SO IF THEY PUT IT ON THE
HOUSE FLOOR AND THEY HAVE THE VOTE, IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIFE.
THE CONSERVATIVES CAN VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE IT'S TOO
LIBERAL AND THE MODERATES CAN VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE IT'S TOO
HARSH AND THEY CAN ALL GO BACK TO L DISTRICT AND SAY, YES, I
WANTED TO EREPEAL OBAMACARE BUT THIS BILL AND THEN TICK IT DOWN
IN THE DISTRICT AND SAY, WELL, GO BACK AND TRY IT AGAIN LATER.
GENE ROBINSON, THE MISTAKE HERE IS THEY'RE PUTTING THESE BILLS
OUT THAT ARE GETTING I THINK IN OUR LESTEST PBC FROM
REPUBLICANS, "OH, THAT VOTE WON'T FOLLOW YOU."
I'M SITTING HERE TODAY BECAUSE I GOT ELECTED TO CONGRESS BECAUSE
A DEMOCRAT IN MY DISTRICT VOTED FOR BILL CLINTON AS TAX INCREASE
HAD 1993 IN THE HOUSE RESOLUTION BUT DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT AT THE
END AND THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THAT.
BUT I SPENT A YOUR OUGHT THIS IS GOING TO FOLLOW THESE
REPUBLICANS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES AND THEY'RE STUPID
IF THEY DON'T THINK IT IS, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T PASS.
>> THEY'RE KIND OF STUM WITH THERE I HOPE IT'S DOMED BECAUSE
THEY DID PROMISE FOR ALMOST THE LAST EIGHT YEARS THATTER THAT
GOING TO REPEAL AND REPLACE, REPEEL AND REPLACE BE A THE PB
PRRNGS AND IN THE END YOU VOTED AGAINST IT.
YET, IF THEY PASS THIS THING, IT IS A GIANT MILLSTONE AROUND THE
NECK OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS TO OWN THE
HEALTH CARE ISSUE AND TO DO THIS WITH IT IS EVEN MORE DANGEROUS.
>> OF THE FOUR SENATORS THAT CAME OUT WHO SAID THEY ARE NOs
RIGHT NOW, THE ARGUMENT IS IT DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH WE'LL TALK
TO HIM IN A MOMENT. BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE DEAN
HELLER CAMP THAT SAYS I CAN'T GO BACK WITH THIS PROL OF BURR STAJ
THEY'RE STAYING CAN'T SORT OF THE DEAN HELLER AND ROB PORTMAN
CAMP? >> Reporter: IT'S BASICALLY
OBAMACARE. THEY'VE ACCEPTED THAT PEOPLE WHO
CAN'T QUITE AFFORD INSURANCE AND ARE MEDICAID ARE GOING TO GET
FEDERAL HELP TO BUY INSURANCE. THAT'S WHAT HAS RAND PAUL SO
ANGRY. I DO THINK THERE'S A PRIVATE
PERCEPTION THAT RAND PAUL MIGHT BE THE ONLY HARD NO OF THIS
GROUP FOUR BUT THAT HE MAY JUST BE UNGETTABLE.
AND AS YOU POINT OUT, THE CHALLENGE ON THE OTHER SIDE IS
DEAN HELLER IS THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA, HE'S PROBABLY THE ON
SERIOUSLY VULNERABLE, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT DEAN HELLER AND
NEVADA COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE A SEAT IN 2018.
THEY'D LIKE TO ABLE TO LET DEAN HELLER GO FOR THIS REASON, IT
WOULD MAKE DEEP CUTS FOR THOSE ON THE MEDICAID EXPANSION.
IT PHASES THIS IN OVER A LONGER BEFORE THE, THE ONE PERSON WHO
SAID, YES, I AM WHOLEHEARTEDLY