Dan Rather On Donald Trump Jr: "Jaw-Dropping...The Game Is Up" | All In

STATES SENATE. >> MARK WARNER, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU.
>> I'M JOINED BY DAN RATHER, FORMER ANCHOR OF "CBS EVENING
NEWS." ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
THE QUESTIONS ARE OBVIOUS. THE ANSWERS ARE WANTING.
WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS
HAPPENING. DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ANY
IDEA WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS HAPPENING?
>> I THINK THE SEEDS OF SUSPICION.
WE DO HAVE SUSPICIONS. WHAT WE HAVE ARE VERY FEW HARD
GRANITE TRUTHS. THIS SITUATION IS UNPRECEDENTED
IN OUR HISTORY. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
I THINK IT IS WORTH UNDERSCORING.
THIS IS JAW DROPPING. WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE.
WE'VE HAD HE PRESIDENTS WHO HAVE LOST ALL SENSE OF CREDIBILITY.
RICHARD NIXON DEEP INTO THE SECOND MATERIAL OF HIS
PRESIDENT. BUT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN
PRESIDENT FOR ONLY SIX MONTHS. AND IT JUST KEEPS ON COMING.
NOW, WE NEED MORE FACTS. WHAT I CALL HARD GRANITE TRUTHS.
BUT WE GOT SOME OF THOSE HE HARD GRANITE TRUTHS TODAY.
THAT WHAT WE WERE TOLD BY THE PRESIDENT'S SON AND OTHERS IN
THE CAMPAIGN BEFORE, UNTRUE. NOW, THE POTENTIAL FOR LEGAL
PROBLEMS JUST GROW BY THE MINUTE HERE.
BECAUSE WHATEVER HE DID OR DIDN'T DO IN THAT MEETING,
WHATEVER HIS REACTION TO WAS OR WASN'T, IF HE HAS IN FACT LIED
ABOUT IT. SOME WOULD SAY SINCE HE'S LIED
ABOUT IT, IF IN FACT HE LIED ABOUT IT, THAT'S A CRIME.
THAT CAN BE PERJURY. AT THE VERY LEAST, WHETHER HE IS
LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE ORANGE THERE IS A REAL ETHICAL QUESTION
INVOLVED HERE. A QUESTION OF PATRIOTISM
INVOLVED HERE. AND IT IS AN IMMENSE POLITICAL
QUESTION FOR DONALD TRUMTRUMP'S PRESIDENCY RIGHT NOW.
THE HOT BREATH OF TRUTH IS COMING DOWN HEAVY ON THEIR NECKS
JUST NOW. >> AS TO THE ETHICAL PROBLEM, I
REALLY WANT TO GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
HAPPEN IN THE LAST 24 HOURS. WE'VE SEEN, OKAY, PEOPLE THAT
DEFENDED THE PRESIDENT SAID THERE'S NO INTERFERENCE.
THEN ENTER FWEERNS NO COLLUSION. WELL, THEY TRIED TO COLLUDE BUT
WHO WOULDN'T? AS SOMEONE WHO HAS OBSERVED AND
REPORTED ON POLITICAL LIFE FOR DECADES, WHAT DO YOU SAY THAT
ANY CAMPAIGN WOULD HAVE TAKEN THIS MEETING, THIS IS TOTALLY
NORMAL, THIS ISN'T AN RENT. >> I WOULD SAY THAT IS NOT TRUE
AND DEMONSTRABLY NOT TRUE. DURING THE 2000 PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN, BETWEEN ONE OF THE DEBATES BETWEEN AL GORE AND
GEORGE W. BUSH, GEORGE W. BUSH BRIEFING BOOK WAS DELIVERED TO
THE GORE CAMPAIGN. THE GORE CAMPAIGN IMMEDIATELY
CALLED THE FBI AND TURNED THE BOOK OVER TO THE FBI.
WELL, WHAT SHOULD HE HAVE DONE? SOME WOULD SAY, WHAT DO YOU
EXPECT HIM TO DO? UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, I
EXPECT HIM TO CALL THE FBI AND SAY THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
BECAUSE WHEN A FOREIGN POWER
GETS INVOLVED WITH TRYING TO AFFECT THE SOVEREIGNTY OF THE
UNITED STATES, IT DOESN'T GET MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN THAT.
AND A PRESIDENT, THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENCY, WHICH WE ALL SO
OFTEN TALK ABOUT, A CENTRAL POWER OF THE PRESIDENCY IS THE
POWER TO PERSUADE. IN THE MILITARY THEY PUT IT THIS
WAY. DOWN THE RANKS, THEY HAVE TO
HAVE FAITH IN COMMAND. THE AMERICAN FAITH IN THE
COMMAND OF DONALD TRUMP OVERALL, IT WAS NEVER HIGH AND HAS BEEN
SINKING EVER SINCE HE GOT INTO OFFICE.
PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THIS BUSINESS WITH THE RUSSIANS.
NOW, AS IS SO OFTEN THE CASE, CHRIS, WHATEVER HAPPENED IN THAT
MEETING OR DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THAT MEETING, IT IS THE LIES THAT
HAVE BEEN TOLD SINCE THEN, THE CONFLICTING TESTIMONY, THE
BACKTRACKING. THEY ARE IN A WORD AND HAVE BEEN
FROM THE BEGINNING EVEN HE BEFORE THE PRESIDENCY ON, WHAT
HAPPENED AND DIDN'T HAPPEN. THEY'VE BEEN SLIPPING AND
SLIDING. NOW THE GAME IS CLOSING IN ON
THEY WILL. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO FOCUS IN
ON THAT. I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE FIRST
REPORTING ON THIS QUESTION, DID MICHAEL FLYNN TALK TO SERGEI
KISLYAK? IT IS A LITTLE STORY.
IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE THAT CRAZY.
HE IS THE INCOMING SECURITY ADVISER.
HE TALKS TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER OF THE BUT THEY
STARTED LYING ABOUT IT. AND I WONDER, WHAT DOES DO IT TO
YOUR JOURNALIST BRAIN, AND YOUR SORT OF EXPERIENCE, WHEN YOU
WATCH PEOPLE TELL A SERIES OF REPEATED UNTRUTHS ABOUT THE SAIL
THING? >> IT RAISES GREAT SUSPICIONS
ABOUT WHAT IS IT THEY'RE HIDING? WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT
IS WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? THEY WERE HIDING SOME THINGS.
SOME THINGS ARE COMING INTO THE LIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE HIDING.
AND WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IT IS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.
KUSHNER WAS IN THAT ROOM, MANAFORT WAS IN THAT ROOM, THE
PRESIDENT'S SON WAS IN THE ROOM. WHAT DOLE IS GET THEM PHYSICALLY
IN THE SAME ROOM AND TALK ABOUT THE STORIES.
YOU CAN'T KEEP TELLING ONE STORY ONE DAY, AND THEN BACKTRACKING
AND REVERSING ON IT THE NEXT DAY.
IN TERMS OF THE OPTICS, PUBLIC

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