ON DONALD TRUMP JR. AND THE E-MAILS, THE MEETING LAST JUNE
ALONG WITH JARED KUSHNER AND PAUL MANAFORT WITH A LAWYER FROM
RUSSIA WHO KEIR SIMMONS SAT DOWN WITH LATER.
I WANT TO BRING IN OUR NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER IN D.C., KEN,
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE E-MAILS -- I READ THE NEW YORK
TIMES SAID DON JR. PUT THE E-MAILS OUT TO SCOOP THE TIMES
BECAUSE THEY WERE ABOUT TO RELEASE THEM.
>> THIS MAY BE THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY DEVELOPMENT YET IN
THE WHOLE TRUMP/RUSSIA SAGA. AS YOU KNOW FOR MONTHS, DONALD
TRUMP AND ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN DENYING THAT THERE WAS ANY
COORDINATION WITH THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT THAT THEY WERE AWARE
OF ATTEMPTS BY THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT TO HELP THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN. HERE IN BLACK AND WHITE AND I
WANT TO READ THIS TO YOU FROM ROB GOLDSTONE WHO SET UP THE
MEETING, TO DONE SALD TRUMP JR. ON JUNE 3rd, 2016, THE CROWN
PROSECUTOR OF RUSSIA MET WITH HIS FATHER ARIS, AN OLIGARCH IN
RUSSIA AND OFFERED TO PROVIDE THE TRUMP INFORMATION WITH
OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION THAT WOULD
INCRIMINATE HILLARY AND DEALINGS WITH RUSSIA AND BE VERY USEFUL
TO YOUR FATHER. THIS IS VERY HIGH LEVEL AND
SENSITIVE INFORMATION BUT IS PART OF RUSSIA AND ITS
GOVERNMENT SUPPORT FOR MR. TRUMP HELPED BY ARIS AND AMMAN.
>> THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN BEING TOLD THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT WANTED TO
HELP THEIR EFFORT. THERE ARE OTHER REFERENCES TO
ALERTING MR. TRUMP THROUGH HIS PERSONAL ASSISTANT BUT I WANTED
TO GO TO YOU FIRST DON JR., INSTEAD OF CALLING THE FBI AND
ALERTING AUTHORITIES TO THIS, TOOK THE MEETING AS WE KNOW NOW.
>> AND THE RESPONSE WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
THAT E-MAIL YOU JUST READ FROM WAS JUNE 3rd AT 10:37 IN THE
MORNING. AT 10:53 THE SAME MORNING, LESS
THAN 20 MINUTES LATER DON JR. RESPONDS TO ROB GOLDSTONE AND
AMONG OTHER THINGS SAYS IF IT'S WHAT YOU SAY, I LOVE IT.
SO THAT DISABUSES EVERYONE OF THIS IDEA THAT HE DID NOT KNOW A
WHAT MIGHT BE COMING -- MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN THE SPECIFIC CONTENT
BUT HE DID NO IT WAS INFORMATION GLEANED BY THE RUSSIAN
GOVERNMENT IN SUPPORT OF DONALD TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY THAT HE
WANTED TO HAND OVER TO DONALD TRUMP JR., NUMBER ONE.
AND NUMBER TWO, THAT THERE WAS NO SURPRISE ABOUT WHO THIS --
WHERE THIS WAS COMING FROM, THAT IT WAS OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT
INFORMATION. THIS IS STUFF THAT DONALD TRUMP
JR. THAT'S CONTRADICTED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS.
>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT'S STUNNING AND TO BE CLEAR,
YOU KNOW, AS THIS LAWYER DESCRIBES THE MEETING, THAT'S
REALLY NOT WHAT TRANSPIRED. SHE -- ACCORDING TO HER ACCOUNT
AND DON ALD JR.'S ACCOUNT, THERE WASN'T SUBSTANTIAL INCRIMINATING
INFORMATION AND SHE REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THESE
SANCTIONS RELATING TO THIS ADOPTION ISSUE.
BUT WHAT IT SHOWS IS THAT DONALD TRUMP JR. AND PEOPLE AROUND HIM
WERE WILLING TO TAKE THIS MEETING, WILLING TO ENGAGE ON
THIS ISSUE AND PUT ON NOTICE BY THEIR ASSOCIATES THAT THE
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT WANTED TO TRY TO HELP THEM.
AT ONE POINT, ROB GOLDSTONE REFERS TO THIS WOMAN AS A
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LAWYER. SHE SAYS SHE HAS NO OFFICIAL
TIES TO THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT BUT CLEARLY LOBBYING ON A CAUSE
THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT'S HEART,
LIFTING SANCTIONS AND HAVING TO DO WITH HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATORS
IN RUSSIA. THIS IS INCREDIBLE DEVELOPMENT,
GUYS. >> BEFORE SALLY YATES WAS FIRED,
ONE OF THE RISKS SHE SAID THE WHITE HOUSE WAS IN WAS THAT
RUSSIANS WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO BLACKMAIL MIKE FLYNN.
THE FACT THAT DON JR. TOOK THIS MEETING AND JARED KUSHNER WAS IN
THE ROOM AND PAUL MANAFORTD, NOT THAT THEY GAINED INFORMATION,
BUT IF THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT HAD THAT INFORMATION THAT THEY
KNEW THESE GENTLEMEN TOOK THIS MEETING, THESE E-MAILS
EXISTED -- >> AFTER SAYING THAT THERE WAS
NO SUCH MEETING. >> AFTER THEY REPEATED SAID THIS
IS FALSE AND UNTRUE. KNOWING THAT INFORMATION COULD
THAT BE BLACKMAIL WORTHY CONTENT THAT THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT
COULD USE AGAINST THE TRUMP TEAM?
>> I MEAN, JUST AS A MATTER OF COMMON SENSE IT WOULD SEEM IT
COULD BE, RIGHT? I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE
ASKING THE QUESTION, GIVEN THESE FACTS, THE E-MAIL WE'VE SEEN, IS
THIS A CRIME? I'VE BEEN DOING SOME REPORTING
ON THAT AND TALKING TO LAWYERS BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
WHO PRACTICE IN THIS AREA AND SURPRISINGLY THEY SAY IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY A CRIME. THERE'S NO STATUTE THAT MAKES IT
A CRIME TO KOL LEWD WITH A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT IF MONEY
DIDN'T EXCHANGE. IT'S NOT ESPIONAGE OR TURNING
OVERSEE KRETS TO RUSSIA. THERE IS A CRIME OF FAILING TO
REPORT YOU'RE A FOREIGN AGENT. THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE HERE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS TELL ME THAT THE FBI IS LOOKING SO
HARD AT FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS, IF THEY WERE TRYING TO CULTIVATE
THE TRUMP TEAM AND ASSOCIATES, WERE THEY ALSO DOING BUSINESS
DEALS? CERTAINLY THIS ISSUE OF
COLLUSION AND THIS E-MAIL IS GOING TO BE A FACTOR LEGAL
EXPERTS TELL ME AM BOB MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION GOING FORWARD.
>> THERE'S A SPECIFIC INFRACTION AT THE VERY LEAST WHEN IT COMES
TO JARED KUSHNER BECAUSE THIS IS THE THIRD TIME HE HAS NOT
DISCLOSED A MEETING WITH SOMEONE WHO PURPORTEDLY REPRESENTS OR
HAS INFORMATION FROM THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT.
WHILE DONALD JR. MAY NOT HAVE COMMITTED CRIME AND WE DON'T
KNOW BECAUSE IT FLOWS OUT AT QUITE A RATE.
JARED KUSHNER CONTINUES TO NOT DISCLOSE RELATIONSHIPS THAT HE
HAS WITH RUSSIANS -- >> BUT JARED'S ATTORNEY SAYS HE
WILL SPEAK OPENLY WHEN HE'S CALLED BY THE COMMITTEE.
>> THIS ISSUE OF DISCLOSURE IS CERTAINLY A LIVE ONE HERE.
THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT DID MIKE FLYNN LIE TO THE FBI.
THERE'S A QUESTION WHETHER JARED KUSHNER WAS FORTHCOMING ON HIS
SECURITY CLEARANCE FORMS ABOUT THESE FOREIGN CONTACTS.
IT'S NOT OFTEN PEOPLE GET PROSECUTED FOR FAILING TO
DISCLOSE THOSE MEETINGS BUT IF THERE'S A PATTERN AND CRIMINAL
INTENT