Donald Trump Lawyer Jay Sekulow: Distancing President From Don Jr.? | AM Joy

>>> YOU USED THE PHRASE COVERUP. LET'S BE REALISTIC HERE.
YOU HAD LAWYERS ON YOUR BROADCAST, NBC HAD LAWYERS ON
THEIR NETWORK, AND EVERYBODY IS COMING TO THE SAME CONCLUSION
REGARDING THE LEGALITY. THERE'S NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT
THE MEETING, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT COVERING UP.
BIG WORD TO USE, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING ILLEGAL TO COVER UP.
>> AT LEAST TWICE IN THE LAST MONTH THE PRESIDENT HAS TURNED
TO ONE MAN TO REPRESENT HIM ON THE SUNDAY TALK SHOWS.
HE CHOSE HIS PERSONAL LAWYER, JAY SEKULOW.
IN FACT, JUST THIS MORNING THAT TRUMP NEEDED SEKULOW'S LEGAL
SERVICES SO MUCH THAT SEKULOW PULLED OFF A RARE PAUL GINSBERG,
NERDY POLITICAL TERM FOR APPEARING ON ALL FIVE SUNDAY
TALK SHOWS. DID FOUR OF THE FIVE ON JUNE
19th. EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU GUYS.
FERNAND, I WILL HAVE YOU RESPOND.
THIS IS JAY SEKULOW TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE HIMSELF KNEW ABOUT
THE DON JUNIOR MEETING. >> DID YOU ONLY FIND OUT THEN?
IS THAT A CONCERN TO YOU YOU TH YOU'RE NOT GETTING ALL THE
INFORMATION YOU NEED? >> WE DON'T REPRESENT DONALD
TRUMP JR., WE DON'T REPRESENT THE CAMPAIGN, WE REPRESENT THE
PRESIDENT. IN THAT SENSE WE DIDN'T HAVE
ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION OR CONTROL OF DATA LIKE THAT,
PRESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE CONTROL OF DATA LIKE THAT.
THAT WAS INFORMATION THAT EITHER DONALD TRUMP JR. HAD OR THE
CAMPAIGN HAD, WHEREVER THE INFORMATION WAS STORED.
THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INFORMATION THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES WOULD HAVE HAD. >> FERNAND, ARE THEY THROWING
DON JUNIOR UNDER THE BUS? >> YOU LISTEN TO THAT COMMENT BY
JAY SEKULOW. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T CARE
WHAT JAY SEKULOW THINKS. I CERTAINLY DON'T.
THEY DON'T CARE WHAT DONALD TRUMP THINKS.
THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON IN AMERICA THAT EVERY PATRIOTIC
AMERICAN, DEMOCRATIC, REPUBLICAN, INDEPENDENT CARES
ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK, THAT PERSON IS SPECIAL COUNSELOR
ROBERT MUELLER. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT
ANYBODY SAYS ANY MORE. THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS LOST ALL
OF ITS CREDIBILITY. LET'S WAIT AND SEE WHAT MUELLER
SAYS. THAT'S THE SHERIFF THEY NEED TO
BE WORRIED ABOUT PASSING JUDGMENT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. CAREEN, AT THE SAME TIME THAT
SHERIFF IS TIED TO AN UNDERSHERIFF WHO WAS FIRED, DUKE
COLBY. HERE IS SEKULOW BLAMING THIS ON
COMEY. >> THE BASIS UPON WHICH THIS
ENTIRE SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATION IS TAKING PLACE IS
BASED ON WHAT, ILLEGALLY LEAKED INFORMATION THAT WAS A
CONVERSATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WITH THE THEN
FBI DIRECTOR, AND THAT TO ME IS PROBLEMATIC FROM THE OUTSET, AND
I THINK THAT RAISES VERY SERIOUS LEGAL ISSUES AS TO THE SCOPE AND
NATURE OF WHAT CAN REALLY TAKE PLACE.
>> THIS IS ESSENTIALLY ACCUSING JIM COMEY OF A CRIME.
>> IT IS, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.
I HOPE JAY SEKULOW GETS PAID, HE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT PAYING FOR
ANYTHING. THERE'S A STORY ABOUT TRUMP
ASKING RNC TO PAY FOR HIS LEGAL ISSUES.
WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES ON THERE.
LOOK, WE CANNOT BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE TO SAY WHEN IT
COMES TO RUSSIA, THEY HAVE LIED TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
SO IT'S JUST A WASTE OF OUR TIME, THIS PR, PUBLIC RELATIONS,
IS NOT GOING TO WORK. I AGREE WITH WHAT AYMAN SAID.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CARE ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR
COUNTRY. THIS IS NOT GOING TO GET US
ANYWHERE. >> GOING TO GET US ANOTHER SOUND
BITE. JAY, FOR YOU, THIS IS SEKULOW
TALKING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S INVOLVEMENT AND WHAT THAT MIGHT
HAVE BEEN. TAKE A LISTEN.
>> TELL ME ABOUT THE REPORTS THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS INVOLVED
IN THE INITIAL RESPONSE THAT DONALD TRUMP JR. GAVE "NEW YORK
TIMES." >> SO I READ THOSE REPORTS AS
WELL, AND THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT -- DID NOT DRAFT THE
RESPONSE. THE RESPONSE CAME FROM DONALD
TRUMP JR., I'M SURE IN CONSULTATION WITH HIS LAWYER.
>> WAS HE ASKED TO READ THE STATEMENT BEFORE IT WAS GIVEN TO
"NEW YORK TIMES" ON AIR FORCE ONE?
>> I CAN'T SAY WHETHER THE PRESIDENT WAS TOLD THE STATEMENT
WAS COMING FROM HIS SON ON THAT, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT INVOLVED IN
DRAFTING OF THE STATEMENT. >> THAT'S CONTRARY TO REPORTING,
EJ, AND FEELS LIKE DON JUNIOR IS ON AN ISLAND, LONELY.
>> TO USE A PHRASE, DEPENDING WHAT THE MEANING OF THE WORD
CRAFT IS.
WHAT'S CLEAR FROM THE REPORTING IS DONALD TRUMP COOPERATED IN
THE PRODUCTION OF THAT STATEMENT WHICH SUGGESTS THAT YET AGAIN HE
WAS TRYING TO MISLEAD ABOUT RUSSIA.
AND I THINK THE BIG PROBLEM IN THE PR ABOUT THIS IS THEY HAVE
WHAT ONE CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR CALLED RUSSIAN
AMNESIA, THAT EVERY TIME THERE WAS SOME MEETING WITH SOME
RUSSIAN, SOMEHOW IT WASN'T REPORTED, WASN'T TALKED ABOUT.
THEN THEY SAY OH, YEAH, I FORGOT THAT.
WHY IS THE THING THEY KEEP FOR GETTING ABOUT RUSSIA.
AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S SUCH SKEPTICISM.
>> I FEEL LIKE OPRAH, YOU GET A SOUND BITE, NOW MICHELLE
BERNARD, HERE COMES THE EMERGING UKRAINIAN DEFENSE WHICH IS
BUBBLING UP FROM A LOT OF REPUBLICANS.
HERE IT IS. >> OPPOSITION RESEARCH, IF IT
WOULD HAVE MATERIALIZED IS NOT A THING OF VALUE.
NEVER BEEN A CASE THAT SAID OPPOSITION RESEARCH IS A THING
OF VALUE. I DON'T THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE
TO CONFLAT. THE EXACT TRANSACTION WHICH WAS
NOT SOLICITATION BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, IT WAS OFFER OF
OPPOSITION RESEARCH. COMPARE THAT TO WHAT TOOK PLACE
WITH UKRAINIANS AND DNC WHERE THEY WERE WORKING IN COLLUSION
WITH EACH OTHER. >> NOW IT IS THE UKRAINIANS
AGAIN. WHAT'S HAPPENING?
>> IT IS ALWAYS PRESIDENT OBAMA, HILLARY CLINTON, OR THE
UKRAINIANS. >> OR THE MEDIA.
>> OR THE FAKE NEWS. THE FAULT NEVER FALLS WITHIN THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED AT THE VERY BEST, JUST COMPLETE MORAL
TERP TUD. THEY'RE GIVING A NEW DEFINITION
TO TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS, DRIP DRIP DRIP, A LITTLE MORE
INFORMATION EVERY DAY, TEARS AWAY AT THE DEMOCRACY AND TEARS
AWAY AT THE ECONOMY. >> ONE OTHER PROBLEM THEY'RE
GOING TO HAVE, WE NOW HAVE REPORTING FROM HUFFINGTON POST
THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN PAID $50,000 TO DON JUNIOR'S CRIMINAL
DEFENSE LAWYER 11 DAYS BEFORE THE "NEW YORK TIMES" STORY
BROKE, SO THEY HAD SOME CONSCIOUSNESS THAT HE HAD SOME
LEGAL PROBLEMS. HARD TO SAY WE DON'T TALK TO DON
JUNIOR, HE DOES HIS OWN THING. >> NOT ONLY THAT, THE CHATTER
WITHIN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY BY THE WAY,
INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, ALL AGENCIES OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
SAY RUSSIA WAS INVOLVED AND THERE'S EVIDENCE OF TRUMP
COLLUSION, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF ANOTHER SHOE DROPS.
BAD ENOUGH THIS MEETING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS TIP OF
THE ICEBERG. WHAT HAPPENS IF SIGNAL
INTERCEPTS COME OUT WITH AUDIO CONVERSATIONS, ARE THEY GOING TO
SAY THEY'RE DOCTORED AT THAT POINT?
JAY SEKULOW, A LAWYER LYING ON BEHALF OF A PRESIDENT WHO LIES.
WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THOSE COMMENTS SERIOUSLY.
WHAT WE HAVE TO TAKE SERIOUSLY IS EVIDENCE COMING OUT IN THE
MEDIA. THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO AWAIT
WHAT THE ACTIONS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION ARE BECAUSE IT IS
GOING TO GET WORSE. >> DOES SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE
STATE THAT THEY'RE IN, THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO SEND OUT
SEBASTIAN GORK AND SUBJECT IN THE GUARDIAN THAT HIS FIRM WAS
STEAL MILLIONS, THIS FIRM RAISING MONEY OFF THE RELIGIOUS,
HAVING THEM GIVE TO HIS ORGANIZATIONS AND IT WAS GOING
TO HIS FAMILY, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT TO SEND OUT.
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, TRUMP DEALS WITH SHADY CHARACTERS.
WE SAW IT WHEN HE WAS CEO OF HIS ORGANIZATION AND NOW AS
PRESIDENT. UNFORTUNATELY IT IS GOING TO
HURT US. AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO
POINT OUT, LET'S NOT FORGET A WEEK AGO WITH A WHITE HOUSE
STATEMENT THAT WAS BASICALLY A LIE.
>> WHICH ONE? >> THE ONE OF DON JUNIOR.
IT WAS AN OUTRIGHT LIE AND IT WAS A COVER UP.
YOU HAVE THE WHITE HOUSE BEING INVOLVED IN A COVER UP.
>> REPUBLICANS DON'T HAVE THE BACKBONE YET TO STAND UP TO
TRUMP. I AM TALKING ABOUT SAYING
CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS, BUT THEY'RE NOT FOOLISH ENOUGH IT
SEEMS TO GO OUT AND DEFEND ALL THIS STUFF, SO TRUMP HAS TO RELY
ENTIRELY ON THE INNER CIRCLE, PRAY THE REPUBLICANS CONTINUE
NOT TO CRITICIZE HIM, BUT IT JUST SHOWS YOU HOW BAD SOME OF
THIS STUFF IS. >> MEANWHILE, CONSPICUOUSLY
ABSENT ON SUNDAY SHOWS IS ONE MIKE PENCE, SEEMS TO BE TRYING
TO QUARANTINE HIMSELF INSIDE A BUBBLE EVEN THOUGH HE HAS
EXPOSURE TOO. >> HE DOES.
HIS SPOKESPERSON WAS ASKED ON FOX NEWS EARLIER THIS WEEK
SEVERAL TIMES POINTEDLY, HAS THE VICE PRESIDENT EVER HAD MEETINGS
WITH THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT OR RUSSIAN OFFICIALS AND WENT OUT
OF HIS WAY TO REFUSE TO TO ANSW THE QUESTION.
>> NO ONE CAN REMEMBER ANYTHING. WE DON'T REMEMBER RUSSIANS OR
MEETINGS. THANK YOU.
LOVED THIS PANEL. >>> COMING UP, A LOOK AT DONALD
TRUMP'S LONG-STANDING TIES TO BUSINESSES, WHERE?
SAY IT TOGETHER, R

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