>> I'LL TELL YOU, LET ME START OFF BY SAYING I WE HEARD IT WAS
17 AGENCIES. I A, BOY, THAT'S A LOT.
DO WE HAVE THAT MANY? >> SENSE YOU STARTED THE WHOLE
WRESTLING VIDEO THING. >> YOU WERE INVADED YET AGAIN
THIS TIME BY NAZI GERMANY FROM THE WEST AND THE SOVIET UNION
FROM THE EAST. THAT'S TROUBLE.
>> THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION OF OUR TIME IS WHETHER THE WEST HAS
THE WILL TO SURVIVE. >> DONALD TRUMP WRAPS UP HIS
SECOND BIG APPEARANCE ON THE WORLD STAGE AND AMID THE TRUMP
ATTACKS ON THE PRESS THE MAIN EVENT WAS TRUMP'S FIRST OFFICIAL
MEETING WITH RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN, AFTER THIS
UNANSWERED QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THE TWO LEADERS ALONG WITH
SECRETARY OF STATE REX TILLERSON, RUSSIAN FOREIGN
MINISTER SERGEI LAVROV MET FOR MORE THAN TWO HOURS DURING WHICH
TIME TRUMP DID BRING UP THE RUSSIAN ELECTION INTERFERENCE,
WHICH PUTIN DENIED. >> THAT MEETING MIGHT HAVE
OVERSHADOWED THE REMARKS HE MADE THURSDAY IN WARSAW.
THAT SPEECH WRITTEN BY TRAVEL BAN AUTHOR STEVEN MILLER
REMINDED ME OF TRUMP'S PROPENSITY FOR DOG WHISTLING ALT
RIGHT, HAVING CARRIED IT WITH HIM DOWN THE ESCALATEER ALL THE
WAY TO 1,500 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
>> WE HAVE ENOUGH RESPECT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO PROTECT OUR
BORDERS. DO WE HAVE THE DESIRE AND THE
COURAGE TO PRESERVE OUR CIVILIZATION IN THE FACE OF
THOSE WHO WOULD SUBVERT AND DESTROY IT?
I DECLARED TODAY FOR THE WORLD TO HEAR THAT THE WEST WILL
NEVER, EVER BE BROKEN. OUR VALUES WILL PREVAIL.
OUR PEOPLE WILL THRIVE AND OUR CIVILIZATION WILL TRIUMPH.
>> JOINING ME NOW, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TERROR PROJECT.
YAHOO NEWS AND FINANCE ANCHOR, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST JOHN
PIERRE AND FORMER CIA SPECIAL AGENT JACK RICE AND REPUBLICAN
MEDIA STRATEGIST WICK RILSON. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR
BEING HERE. WE WE HEARD LOTS OF CLIPS OF THE
PRESIDENT'S SPEECH IN WARSAW. TO MY EARS THE ONE THING LEFT
OUT. WE DIDN'T PLAY NIT THIS CLIP N.
THIS WHOLE RUN OF THINGS, TALKING ABOUT WESTERN
CIVILIZATION, HE SAYS WE WRITE SYMPHONY, THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED
THE ALARM BELLS FOR ME THAT THIS WAS NOT JUST SOME SPEECH ABOUT
DEMOCRATIC VALUES OR THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
THIS WAS ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AND IT REMINDED ME OF THIS
CONGRESSMAN STEVE KING SAID ON OUR AIR LAST JULY.
>> I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT YOUR HISTORY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE
THESE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THESE OTHER
CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE DID ANY
OTHER SUBGROUP OF PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE MORE TO CIVILIZATION?
>> THAN WHO? >> WESTERN CIVILATION IS, IT'S
ROOTED IN WESTERN EUROPE, EASTERN EUROPE AND THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA AND EVERY PLACE WITH CHRISTIANITY.
>> I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU AND GO AROUND THE TABLE.
AM I WRONG IN MAKING THIS PARALLEL BETWEEN STEVE KING,
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND WHITE NATIONALISM?
>> WELL, THERE THE AN UNCOMFORTABLE THING YOU ARE
SAYING. SPECIFICALLY WHAT STRIKES ME,
THIS PRESIDENT, UNLIKE HIS PREDECESSORS DOESN'T GO INTO
THESE MEETINGS FOCUSING ON DEMOCRACY AND DEMOCRATIC VALUES.
THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE US FROM THE
RUSSIAN, VLADIMIR PUTIN WHAT HAVE YOU.
THIS FOCUS ON CIVILIZATION, US VERSUS THEM.
TERRORISTS VERSUS THE CIVILIZED WORLD, RIGHT SYMPHONYS, WHAT
HAVE YOU, PLAYS RIGHT INTO PRESIDENT PUTIN'S PLAYBOOK.
YOU LOOK AT U.S. POLLS HERE, HOW MANY AMERICANS VIEW RUSSIA MORE
FAVORABLY. YOU SEE THEIR COMMON AMENDMENT
WHEN IT COMES TO THE NRA. WHEN IT COMES TO EVANGELICALS.
IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE TREEING TRANSPIRE JUST RECENTLY OVER
TIME. AND THERE THE AN ALARMING THEME
IN ALL OF THAT. >> THIS IS OUT OF THE RUSSIAN
PLAYBOOK. THEY'VE DONE THIS IN COUNTRIES
AND EUROPE IN THEIR ELECTION CYCLES, TRYING TO SEW DIVISION.
>> OF COURSE. IN EASTERN EUROPE THEY DO IT
ALMOST THE WAY ADOLPH HITLER DID IT GOING AFTER ETHNIC RUSSIAN
GROUPS POCKETED THROUGHOUT THE BORDERING STATES OF MODERN DAY
RUSSIA AND THEN EMPOWERING THOSE T. FIGHTING IN THE UKRAINE IS
JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. RUSSIA GAVE ALL THOSE REBELS IN
UKRAINE PASSPORTS, SAID THEY WERE RUSSIAN.
I HAVE ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD ABOUT THAT SPEECH.
>> THAT SPEECH WAS THE ULTIMATE FULFILLMENT OF OSAMA BIN LADIN'S
IDEOLOGY OF THE BELIEF THAT THERE WOULD BE A CLASH OF
CIVILIZATIONS BETWEEN WHAT HE VIEWS AS HIS CRAZY VERSION OF
ISLAM AND THE WEST. AND BIN LADIN BELIEVED IN SAMUEL
HUNTINGTON'S CLASH OF CIVILIZATION.
HE THOUGHT BY COLLAPSING THE SOVIET UNION IN THE 1980s THAT
ISLAM, HIS VERSION, NOT THE PRESENT ONE THAT'S BEEN AROUND
SINCE 1622. HIS VERSION WOULD EVENTUALLY GO
INTO A WAR WITH THE WEST AND TRUMP SEEMED TO EMBODY AND
ENSHRINE THAT BELIEF THAT THE WEST SHOULD STEAL ITSELF FOR A
CLASH OF CIVILIZATION WITH OTHER CULTURES, OTHER BELIEFS, WHICH
PRETTY MUCH SPELLED OUT YOU KNOW THE MUSLIM WORLD.
>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TROUBLE MED THE--
TROUBLED ME THE MOST IN THAT SPEECH BY THE PRESIDENT.
HE IS SETTING UP THIS CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS, HE HAS DONE THIS
THING THAT PRESIDENT GEORGE ONE. BUSH AVOIDED AFTER 9/11,
PRESIDENT OBAMA ZUBIOUSLY AVOIDED AFTER HIS EIGHT-YEAR
PRESIDENCY TO NOT GIVE COMFORT TO BOTH AL QAEDA AND ISIS,
ANYONE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD WHO WANTS TO GET CONVERTS BECAUSE
THE UNITED STATES AND THE WEST IS TRYING TO DESTROY THEM.
>> YOU ARE RIGHT. HE'S STILL RUNNING FOR OFFICE
AND THE PROBLEM IS, HE'S NEVER ACTUALLY TAKEN THE CHAIR AND
LEADING THE FREE WORLD, IF WE WANT TO USE THAT TERM STILL.
WHAT HE HAS THE CAPABILITY OF DOING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES IS TO STAND UP, OPEN UP HIS ARMS AND SAY,
UNDERSTAND, WE ARE ALL CONNECTED IN A GLOBALIZED WORLD, WE CAN
ALL MOVE FORWARD. WE CAN ALL DRIVE FORWARD
TOGETHER. THIS ISN'T A LEFT VERSUS RIGHT
OR WEST VERSUS EAST OR WEST VERSUS MIDDLE EAST ISSUE.
WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
THERE ARE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN US WHERE WE CAN ALL BENEFIT.
INSTEAD, HE TRIES TO FIND A WAY TO CREATE A LEVERAGE BETWEEN
HE WINS. THE PROBLEM IS THE UNITED STATES
WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE AND WILL LOSE BIG IF HE CONTINUES DOWN
THIS IS PATH. WE SEEN THIS FAILURE IN THE
PAST. SADLY, HE SEEMS TO WANT TO
PERPETUATE IT. >> YOU KNOW, NICK, THE
PRESIDENT, LOOK, HE MIGHT BE LISTENING, HE HEARS THE PEOPLE
CRITICIZING HIS SPEECH IN RUSSIA.
HE SENT OUT A COUPLE TWEETS I FOUND INTERESTING.
ONE ON FRIDAY, MY EXPERIENCE YESTERDAY IN POLAND WAS A GREAT
ONE. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE, INCLUDING
THE HATERS, OF THE GREAT REVIEWS OF THE SPEECH.
THEN INEXPLICABLY HE SENDS OUT ANOTHER TWEET SAYING EVERYONE
HERE IS TALKING ABOUT WHY JOHN MODESTA REFUSED TO GIVE THE DNC
SERVE TORE THE FBI AND CIA, DISGRACEFUL.
>> THAT IS JUST SO OUT THERE OTHER WORLDLY.
LET'S JUST DEAL IS WITH THE FIRST ONE ABOUT THE HATERS OF
HIS SPEECH. >> SURE.
>> IN WARSAW. RICK.
>> LOOK, I THINK THE SPEECH WAS, YES, THERE WAS A LOT OF DOG
WHISTLING IN THE SPEECH. BUT THE LOCATION IS AS IMPORTANT
AS THE CONTENT. HE WENT TO POLAND, ONE OF THE
FEW PLACES IN EUROPE WHERE HE WOULD RECEIVE A WELCOME THAT
WASN'T GOING TO BE VERY OVERTLY HOSTILE TO HIM.
HE GAVE A SPEECH THERE THAT WAS RED MEAT FOR THE SORT OF
NATIONALIST AND ETHNO--NATIONALIST
AUTHORITARIANISM, TRUMP AND STEVE BANNON AND STEVE MILLER
ALL ARE VERY DRAWN TO. THE OTHER UNDERPINK SIGNAL, THEY
DON'T BELIEVE IN WESTERN CIVILIZATION IN THE CLASSICAL
SENSE. THEY BELIEVE IN THE USE OF THE
TRUMP WESTERN CIVILIZATION TO EXECUTE A MORE AUTHORITARIAN
FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS WHY YOU END UP WITH A LOT OF
THESE SECRET CODE WORDS AND DOG WHISTLES THIS GUY IS DEPENDENT
ON. BECAUSE THEY DON'T, LIKE YOU
SAID THE CLASSICAL VALUES OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION AREN'T WHAT
THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT. THE SYMPHONIES AND THE LEICESTER
AND THE ARCHITECTURE AREN'T WHAT THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT.
THEY CARE ABOUT USING THAT AS A VECTOR TO ACHIEVE A MORE
AUTHORITARIAN ETHNO-NATIONALISM FORM OF GOVERNMENT, TO A
CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT.
>> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PRESIDENT GIVES THIS
SPEECH IN WARSAW. HE VISITS POLAND.
HE DID, WELL, IT'S MORE LIKE HE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING LIKE OTHER
PRESIDENTS HAVE DONE AND HE DID NOT VISIT THE HOLOCAUST
MEMORIAL. HE'S A QUOTE FROM POLITICO IN AN
ARTICLE ABOUT ANOTHER WAY TRUMP DOG WHISTLED TO NATIONALISTS IN
HIS VISIT TO POLAND. THE PRESIDENT'S DECISION TO SKIP
THAT SYMBOLIC VICTORY WAS SEEN AS HANDING A VICTORY TO THE
RIGHT WING PARTY. THEY HAVE BEEN FIGHT FIGURE POLs
WHO FOUGHT AGAINST NAZI, GERMANY, DOWNPLAYING 3 MILLION
POST-JEWS WHO PERISHED IN THE HOLOCAUST.
AGAIN, THIS PLAYS INTO, WHEN THE PRESIDENT ISN'T REALLY TALKING
ABOUT WESTERN CIVILIZATION, HE'S TALKING ABOUT A VERY SPECIFIC
AND NARROW SUPPLIES OF A PARTICULAR CIVILIZATION.
>> WHAT DO YOU -- GIVEN YOUR VIEWS ON THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH
AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO FAR.
>> JONATHAN, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SAW FOR 18th MONTHS THE
DOG WHISTLING, THE NATIONALISM, YOU HAVE STEVE BANNON BY HIS
SIDE, STEVE MILLER BY HIS SIDE. THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME VIEW,
LET'S NOT FORGET THE INAUGURATION SPEECH AND HOW
AWFUL THAT WAS. SO HE'S TAKEN HIS CAMPAIGN MODE
INTO PRESIDENTIAL MODE. RIGHT.
HE DID IT IN INAUGURATION AND NOW INTO THE WORLD, INTO THE
GLOBAL MODE. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, THIS IS A
PRESIDENT WHO BELIEVES IN ISOLATIONISM.
SO IT'S NOT AT ALL SURPRISING. IF ANYTHING, IT'S EMBARRASSING
BECAUSE IT TAKES US, THE U.S. AWAY FROM THAT GLOBAL LEADER'S
ROLE THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD AND NOW YOU
HAVE THESE DIFFERENT ALLIANCES FROM THE WORLD LEADERS THAT ARE
HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF DONALD TRUMP.
>> RIGHT. >> BECAUSE THEY DON'T TRUST HIM.
THEY FEEL INCREDIBLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THEM.
NOW THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE FOUGHT TALKING TO HIM, THEY'RE TALKING
ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT NORTH KOREA AND U.S. TRADE
DEALS? THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, HEY WHAT
ARE WE DOING ABOUT THE PARIS ACCORD NOW THE U.S. HAS DROPPED
OUT. SO IT JUST MAKES US LOOK AWFUL
AND IT'S INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS. >> YOU ARE GIVING YOUR ANSWER,
SHOWING ZERO OF OF THE FAMILY PHOTOS THEY DID AT THE G20.
WHAT'S NOTABLE ABOUT THAT VIDEO AT THE BEGINNING, WHERE
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS STANDING, LOOK TO THE LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN,
PRESIDENT TRUMP THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AT A G20
SUMMIT IS SHUNTED OFF TO THE SIDE OF THAT GROUP, WHEREAS IN
YEARS PAST, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS ALWAYS BEEN
FRONT AND CENTER, MAYBE ONE OR TWO SPACES AWAY FROM MAYBE THE
HOST OF THE SUMMIT. BUT IN TALKING ABOUT THE
ISOLATION OF THE UNITED STATES, JACK, LET ME COME TO YOU WITH
THIS, WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW THE WORLD IS GOING
AROUND THE UNITED STATES, THIS CANNOT BE GOOD FOR THE LONG-TERM
STRATEGIC NATIONAL INTERESTS OF OUR COUNTRY, CAN IT?
>> OF COURSE, IT CAN'T BE. WE LOOK AT WHAT THE UNITED
STATES DID AFTER WORLD WAR II. WE CREATED THE MARSHALL PLAN FOR
A REASON. WE WANTED STABILITY AND A
BULLWORK AGAINST THE SOVIET UNION.
WHEN WANTED A TRADE PARTNER. WE WANTED TO STRENGTHEN THE
WORLD. THE UNITED STATES CREATED AN
ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE. IN FACT, THE UNITED STATES
BECAME THE POST-POWERFUL COUNTRY ON THE PLANET BECAUSE OF THAT.
THE PROBLEM WE SEE RIGHT NOW IS THIS PRESIDENT HAS BEEN UNDERTUT
U CUTTING THOSE UNDERPINNINGS, UNDERCUTTING THOSEOAL STRAURS
AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS EXCLUDE, IT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE
UNITED STATES INTO THAT CORNER WHERE DONALD TRUMP IS.
THAT'S THE LAST PLACE WE WANT TO BE.
IF YOU -- THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ORGANIZATION OUT THERE.
WE DON'T GET TO SEE THE TABLE, A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS WILL BE
DONE, THE UNITED STATES WON'T EVEN BE IN THE ROOM.
>> MALCOLM, HOW DANGEROUS IS THAT?
AND ALSO, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE UNITED STATES CAN PULL BACK
FROM? EITHER AFTER THE MID-TERM
ELECTIONS, LET'S SAY ONE OF THE HOUSES FLIPPED OR IN THE NEXT
ELECTION, IF THERE IS ANOTHER PRESIDENT, KEEP IN MINE, WE GOT
THREE-AND-A-HALF MORE YEARS TO GO.
IF THE UNITED STATES CONTINUES DOWN THIS MORE ISOLATED ROUTE
AND IS ISOLATED BY THE REST OF THE WORLD, CAN THAT DAMAGE BE
REPAIRED WITH ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION OR FOUR-TO-EIGHT
YEARS? >> I'M SURE IT CAN BE REPAIRED.
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES, RIGHT?
WE MAKE MISTAKES, GO BACKWARDS AND MOVE FORWARD.
WE ARE MOVING OURS TO ALMOST A PRE WORLD WAR II, THE AMERICAN
VALUES, THE SPREADING OF DEMOCRACIES, 50 MILLION PEOPLE
LOST THEIR LIVES IN WORLD WAR II.
>> THAT BECAME THE PRINCIPLE GUIDING DOCTRINE OF THE UNITED
STATES IS NOW INOPERATIVE BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES'
SENIOR STAFF'S OWN DESIGN. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER DANGER IN
HERE THAT SPEECH WAS NOT ONLY HAILED BY TRUMP SUPPORTERS, BUT
OVER THE LAST DAY OR SO, WE HAVE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF RIGHT WING
EXTREMISTS, POTENTIALLY TERRORIST GROUPS, NEO-NAZIS WHO
HAVE BEEN CALMING THAT WHAT THEY CALL THE 1488 SPEECH.
RIGHT. THE 14 WORDS, RIGHT?
>> WHICH ARE -- >> WE MUST PROTECT THE EXISTENCE
OF OUR, OF OUR, OF OUR -- >> WHITE RACE.
>> OF OUR WHITE RACE, AND THE FUTURE OF OUR WHITE CHILDREN AND
SLASH 88 WHICH STANDS FOR THE LETTERS HH, HEIL HITLER.
>> THAT HAS BEEN BURNING OVER OTHER SITES.
>> THE TWEET THAT SARAH PALIN SAYS 14 WORDS, YOU KNOW, A FEW
YEARS AGO, A GUY ANDER WE HAVEVIC IN NORWAY, A RIGHT WING
EXTREMIST FOLLOWER OF THIS SAME DOCTRINE MASS MURDERED ALL OVER
75 PEOPLE IN NORWAY BELIEVING THAT WOULD BRING ABOUT THIS
UPRISING TO SECURE THOSE 14 WORDS.
BUT WE HAVE TO SEE THAT? IS THIS BEING CONDONED BY THE
WHITE HOUSE? >> CIRCUMVENTING THE UNITED
STATES DOESN'T JUST