HAS BASICALLY ADMITTED THAT HE DID
TAKE A MEETING WITH A LAWYER CONNECTED TO THE RUSSIAN
GOVERNMENT, AND HE DID IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO GET
DIRT AND OPPOSITION RESEARCH ON HILLARY CLINTON.
NOW, IS THAT
ILLEGAL?
SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT JUST ILLEGAL, BUT POTENTIALLY
TREASONOUS.
FIRST WE GO TO ONE OF THE MOST ESTEEMED LAW
PROFESSORS IN THE COUNTRY, LAURENCE TRIBE.
HE SAYS --
>>BECAUSE ONE OF THE VERY POOR DEFENSES DONALD TRUMP, JR.
PUT
FORWARD IS, IT TURNS OUT SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION I
WAS LOOKING FOR.
NOW LEGAL EXPERTS ARE TRYING TO CLARIFY TO
DONALD TRUMP, JR., BELATEDLY, THAT YOU CAN HAVE A CONSPIRACY
TO GET THAT INFORMATION EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT.
THAT IS STILL
A CRIME.
FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU AND SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE DECIDE YOU
WILL ROB A BANK, YOU MADE A PLAN, AND TOOK ACTION TO RUB
THAT BANK, BUT YOU FOUND OUT THE BANK WAS CLOSED THAT DAY AND
WENT BACK HOME, YOU'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY COMMITTED A CRIME.
IN
THIS CASE HE IS LIKE, I WENT TO GO GET STOLEN GOODS BUT SHE
DIDN'T HAVE THEM.
HOW UNLUCKY OF ME.
I DON'T KNOW, MAN.
RICHARD PAINTER, FORMER ETHICS LAWYER FOR GEORGE W.
BUSH, SAYS --
>>RICHARD PAINTER ISN'T GOING TO STOP THERE, HE'S COMING WITH
A 2x4.
HERE HE IS ON TV.
>>DONALD TRUMP, JR. AND JARED KUSHNER WERE APPARENTLY BOTH
INVOLVED IN THIS, THIS WAS AN EFFORT TO GET OPPOSITION
RESEARCH ON AN OPPONENT IN AN AMERICAN POLITICAL CAMPAIGN FROM
THE RUSSIANS, WHO WERE KNOWN TO BE ENGAGED IN SPYING INSIDE THE
UNITED STATES.
WE DON'T GET OPPOSITION RESEARCH FROM SPIES,
WE DON'T COLLABORATE WITH RUSSIAN SPIES, UNLESS WE WANT TO
BE ACCUSED OF TREASON.
I WORKED FOR TWO AND HALF YEARS OF THE
CHIEF ETHICS LAWYER OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THEY NEVER WOULD
HAVE TOLERATED THIS AND IF THE STORY WAS TRUE WE WOULD HAVE ONE
OF THEM IF NOT BOTH OF THEM IN CUSTODY BY NOW, THIS IS
UNACCEPTABLE, IT BORDERS ON TREASON IF IT ISN'T IT SELF
TREASON, DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE NEW YORK TIMES STORY IS
TRUE.
>>THAT'S A FORMER BUSH OFFICIAL, HE'S BEEN TOUGH ON THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION THROUGHOUT, BUT THOSE ARE ABOUT AS TOUGH A
WORDS AS YOU CAN FIND.
BUT HE IS NOT ALONE.
>>WE HAVE POTENTIAL FOR ACTUAL TREASON.
WE'VE GOT DONALD TRUMP,
JR., THE MINI-ME TO THE PRESIDENT, MEETING WITH RUSSIAN
OPERATIVE THINKING HE WILL GET INFORMATION ON THE HILLARY
CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT WAS COMING FROM?
IF THIS WAS A RUSSIAN OPERATION, IT WAS SOMETHING COMING
THROUGH SPYING.
SO THERE IS PLENTY
OF SMOKE HERE, AND I THINK WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE FIRE.
>>NOW, I WILL USE AN ANALOGY THAT SOME WILL CONSIDER
INFLAMMATORY, BUT IT'S AN ANALOGY, IT DOESN'T MEAN HE
DID THIS.
IF TRUMP, OR ANYONE, HAD GONE TO ANOTHER ADVERSARY OF
OURS WHO THEY THOUGHT WAS SPYING ON THEIR OPPONENTS AND GOTTEN
INFORMATION, IT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
IF I SAY THE
CANADIANS, YOU MIGHT SAY THEY ARE OUR ALLIES SO IT'S NOT SO
BAD, THE ANSWER WOULD BE AS IT IS.
IF I SAY THE CHINESE, YOU
SAY I GET IT, THE CHINESE MIGHT WANT TO STEAL INFORMATION ABOUT
HILLARY CLINTON OR MAYBE TRUMP DEPENDING ON WHO THEY ARE
SUPPORTING, THAT WOULD BE BAD TO WORK WITH A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT
LIKE THAT.
WHAT IF I SAID ANOTHER ADVERSARY, LIKE AL
QAEDA?
IMAGINE IF AL QAEDA HAD INFORMATION THEY HAD STOLEN
SOMEHOW FROM ONE OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING IN THE RACE, AND THEY
OFFERED IT TO THE OTHER, AND THE OTHER CAMP WAS LIKE, SURE.
I'LL
TAKE A MEETING WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION THEY
STOLE ON MY OPPONENTS, AND SEE IF I CAN USE IT IN THE ELECTION.
PEOPLE WOULD BE PISSED.
I'M NOT SAYING RUSSIA IS THE SAME AS AL
QAEDA, AND GIVING YOU A RANGE FROM CANADA TO AL QAEDA TO GIVE
YOU A SENSE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO.
YOU DON'T TRY
TO GET STOLEN INFORMATION CERTAINLY FROM ADVERSARIES, OR
EVEN FROM ALLIES, FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO USE AGAINST YOUR
POLITICAL OPPONENTS.
YES, THAT IS IN FACT ILLEGAL.
AND THERE'S
ONE LAST INTERESTING THEORY, IT'S FROM A FORMER CIA
OPERATIVE, AND SHE IS BASICALLY SAYING, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT
HAVE DONE THIS, THE KREMLIN MIGHT HAVE DONE THIS, JUST TO
GET THESE IDIOTS TO SHOW UP, AND IF THEY DO THEN THEY HAVE
SOMETHING ON THEM.
EVEN IF THERE IS NO INFORMATION TO GIVE THEM,
THE RUSSIANS KNOW THAT YOU SHOWING UP TO THIS MEETING IS IN
AND OF ITSELF ILLEGAL, THEN THEY HAVE THE GOODS ON YOU.
IF THEY
WANTED TO USE THAT AGAINST YOU MAYBE THEY COULD.
LET ME HAVE
HER EXPLAIN, SHE SAYS --
>>THEN SHE WENT ON TO TALK ABOUT JARED KUSHNER'S ROLE, HE
DID NOT DISCLOSE THIS MEETING, HE WAS IN THE MEETING ALONG WITH
DONALD TRUMP, JR. AND PAUL MANAFORT.
SINCE HE DIDN'T PUT IT IN HIS BACKGROUND CHECK, SHE
EXPLAINS AS SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THIS BEFORE --
>>UH OH.
SO, NOW DONALD TRUMP, JR.
HAS LAWYERED UP AND ISN'T
ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.
HIS EFFORT TO GET AN
ATTORNEY APPARENTLY WAS A DAY TOO LATE BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY
ADMITTED HE WAS IN FACT LOOKING FOR OPPOSITION RESEARCH, HE DID
GO TO THAT MEETING, HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS ABOUT, AND HIS
EXCUSE OF, I DIDN'T WIND UP GETTING THE STOLEN GOODS, IS NOT
A GOOD LEGAL EXCUSE.
WHAT IS THAT I HEAR?
LOCK HIM UP!
LOCK
HIM UP!