Kris Kobach: 'May Never Know' If Clinton Won Popular Vote

. ANOTHER BIG STORY OF THE DAY, HE
CREATED A COMMITMENT. HE DID WIN, BUT HE IS IRKED
ABOUT LOSING THE POPULAR VOTE. TODAY HE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF
THAT ILLEGAL VOTING OUT THERE. >> THIS ISSUE IS VERY IMPORTANT
TO ME BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN, AND EVEN AFTER PEOPLE
WOULD COME UP TO ME AND EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS
INCONSISTENCIES AND IRREGULARITIES THEY SAW, IN SOME
CASES DEALING WITH ALARM NUMBERS OF PEOPLE IN THE OTHER STATES.
>> THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL OF WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD.
NOT THE THREE TO FIVE MILLION CASES OF IT WHICH IS WHAT THE
PRESIDENT SAID BACK IN NOVEMBER. SO WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS
VOTER INTEGRITY PANEL AND WHY ARE THEY ASKING FOR SO MUCH
VOTER DATA? JOINING ME FROM THE WHITE HOUSE,
THE KANSAS SECRETARY OF STATE, AND THE MAN HEADING UP THIS
COMMISSION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US
SECRETARY. YOU HAD YOUR FIRST MEETING
TODAY, YOU LAID OUT SEVERAL PRIORITIIORITIES FOR THE GROUP,
NONE OF THEM INVOLVED HACKING INTO THE ELECTION.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS LEFT OUT OF THE MEETING TODAY?
WILL YOU BE LOOKING INTO IT? >> WHOEVER BRIEFED YOU MIGHT
HAVE MISSED IT. WE DID MENTION THAT AS ONE OF
THE TOPICS. THE SECURITY OF OUR ELECTION
VOTER REGISTRATION RULES. AND I ALSO NOTE THAT THE
COMMISSION DID TAKE INFORMATION AT THIS FIRST MEETING ABOUT
PROVING CASES OF VOTER FRAUD. ONE OF THEM INTRODUCED
DOCUMENTED OF 938 CONVICTIONS FROM THE YEAR 2,000.
. BUT THE FIRST WAS PRINCIPALLY
ABOUT THE TOPICS, BUT IMPRESSIVE DATA BEING ASSEMBLED.
>> WHAT ABOUT RUSSIAN MEDDLING INTO THE ELECTION?
>> YOU HAVE TO DPIED THAT INTO TWO HAVING, RIGHT?
WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOTER RULES,
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A PROGRESSOR TOPIC.
THAT IS NOT REALLY THE JOB OF THIS COMMISSION, IT IS THE
VOTING MACHINES, THE PROCESSES IS.
THE SYSTEMS, NOT THE BROADER ISSUE ABOUT ATTEMPTING TO
DIRECTLY INFLUENCE THE ELECTIONS.
>> WILL YOU MAKE THE FUTURE MEETINGS PUBLIC?
>> IF BY PUBLIC YOU MEAN WILL THEY COME MAKE TESTIMONY IN
FRONT OF THE COMMISSION, YES. TO ALL OF THE MEETINGS OPEN IN
THE BROAD DAYLIGHT. THE PRESS IS INVITED AND THEY
ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. >> SO VICE PRESIDENT PENCE MADE
THE COMMENTS BUT HOW DO YOU CARE THOSE TWO, AT THE SAME TIME FOR
YOU TO HAVE LINGERING DOUBTS? >> I THINK THAT INDIVIDUAL
COMMISSIONERS LIKE ME, WE PRESENTED A LOT OF DATA TO
FEDERAL COURTS. WE'RE PROVING OUR DEFENSE OF
CITIZENSHIP. BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA, AND
OTHER COMMISSIONERS DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER
28 STATES. THIS IS THE FIRST NATIONWIDE
EFFORT TO COLLECT THOSE FACTS. THEY IT IS NOT VOTER FRAUD FROM
ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. >> DO YOU THINK HILLARY CLINTON
WON THE POPULAR VOTE BY THREE TO FIVE MILLION VOTES?
>> WE'LL PROBABLY NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
EVEN IF YOU COULD PROVE A CERTAIN NUMBER WERE CAST BY
INELIGIBLE VOTERS -- >> IS THAT WHY THIS COMMISSION
EXISTS? >> THAT IS NOT THE REASON THAT
THE COMMISSION WAS CREATED. THE COMMISSION IS TO LOOK AT THE
FACTS AS THEY ARE, GO WHERE THE FACTS LEAD US ON VOTER FRAUD.
>> SO AGAIN YOU THINK THAT MAYBE HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT WIN THE
POPULAR VOTE? WE MAY NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THAT QUESTION. >> HE REALLY?
YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT? >> LET'S SUPPOSE THAT THE
COMMISSION DETERMINED THERE WAS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF VOTES CAST
BY INELIGIBLE VOTERS, YOU STILL WON'T KNOW IF THEY VOTED FOR
TRUMP, CLINTON, OR SOMEONE ELSE. IT IS HARD TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
THE FINAL TALLY WOULD BE IN THAT ELECTION.
YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY BASED ON THE DATA MAKE SOME VERY EDUCATED
GUESSES. >> SO WERE THE VOTES FOR DONALD
TRUMP THAT LEAD HIM TO WIN THE ELECTION IN DOUBT AS WELL?
>> ABSOLUTELY. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE ARE WHO ARE
NONCITIZENS, FELO FELONS. >> THAT IS EXACTLY THE REASON
THE COMMISSION EXISTS. THE POLLS SHOW THAT THE MAJORITY
OF MACHINERIES THINK OUR ELECTIONS ARE UNFAIR OR
SUSCEPTIBLE TO FRAUD, THE POINT OF THE COMMISSION IS TO LOOK AND
SAY OKAY WHAT ARE THE FACTS? HOW SUSCEPTIBLE TO FRAUD?
IF THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF FRAUD EXISTS, WHAT CAN STATES DO TO
WARD OFF THAT FRAUD? IT IS TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE AND
LOOK AT A NATIONWIDE LEVEL AT THESE SOURCES OF FRAUD.
AND IT IS HIGH TIME THERE WAS. >> THE PRESIDENT TWEETED THAT HE
WOULD HAVE WON IF IT WASN'T FOR ALL OF THE VOTER FRAUD.
HE SAID HE WOULD CREATE A VOTER FRAUD COMMISSION AND YOU'RE
SAYING RIGHT NOW THE COMMISSION IS NOT BORN TO PROVE WHAT THE
PRESIDENT BELIEVES IS THAT HE WOULD HAVE WON THE POPULAR VOTE
IF IT WASN'T FOR ALL OF THAT VOTER FRAUD, AND HE SAYS EVERY
ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONABLE VOTES THAT HE CLAIMS EXISTS WENT TO
HILLARY CLINTON. THAT'S NOT WHY THE COMMISSION
EXISTS? >> NO, IT IS NOT TO VALIDATE

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