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THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE THEIR BASE SOMETHING THAT HURTS THEM BUT
WHATEVER. SO WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THERE
WERE FOUR PEOPLE IN THAT JUNE 2016 MEETING AT TRUMP TOWER.
THAT NUMBER GREW TO SIX BY THE TIME "MORNING JOE" SIGNED OFF ON
FRIDAY AND THEN CONTINUED TO METASTHETIZE TO SEVEN.
ALONG WITH TRUMP JR., PAUL MAN AFFORD AN JARED KUSHNER, THERE
WAS THE RUSSIAN LAWYER, BRITISH COLUMNIST ROB GOLDSTONE WHO TOLD
THE AP HE WAS PRESENT, A TRANSLATOR, THERE IS ALSO RINAT
AKHMETSHIN WHO LOBBIED ON ISSUES IMPORTANT TO THE KREMLIN AND A
POSSIBLE EIGHTH PERSON ATTENDED AS WELL.
THE "NEW YORK TIMES" WROTE THIS WEEKEND ABOUT AKHMETSHIN, A
SOVIET VETTIAN WHO ALSO TOLD THE APP THAT VESELNITSKAYA BROUGHT
WITH HER A PLASTIC FOLDER WITH PRINTED-OUT DOCUMENTS THAT
DETAILED WHAT SHE BELIEVED WAS THE FLOW OF ILLIC ILLICIT RUSSI
FUNDS TO THE DEMOCRATS. ACCORDING TO AKHMETSHIN,
VESELNITSKAYA PRESENTED THE CONTENTS OF THE DOCUMENTS TO THE
TRUMP ASSOCIATES AND SUGGESTED THAT MAKING THE INFORMATION
PUBLIC COULD HELP THE CAMPAIGN. ALSO THIS WEEKEND, VESELNITSKAYA
TOLD THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" THAT SHE HAD SPOKEN WITH THE
OFFICE OF RUSSIA'S TOP PROSECUTOR AND WAS IN REGULAR
CONTACT WITH RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES ABOUT HER U.S. LOBBYING EFFORTS
BUT JAY SEKULOW, A MEMBER OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LEGAL TEAM
INSISTS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENED.
>> DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE EVERYONE WHO WAS AT THAT MEETING WITH
DONALD TRUMP JR.? >> NO, I DON'T REPRESENT DONALD
TRUMP JR. AND I DO NOT KNOW EVERYONE FOR SURE THAT WAS AT
THAT MEETING AND THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT THERE.
THE PRESIDENT WASN'T AWARE OF THE MEETING AND DID NOT ATTEND
IT. >> DOESN'T IT SHOW INTENT AND
WILLINGNESS ON THE PART OF DON JR. AND JARED AND PAUL MANAFORT
TO COLLUDE WITH THE RUSSIANS AND VESELNITSKAYA WAS NOT JUST SOME
RUSSIAN OFF THE STREET. SHE HAD CLOSE TIES TO PEOPLE IN
THE KREMLIN. >> NUMBER ONE, IF THERE WAS, THE
DISCUSSION WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT, IF IT WAS GOING TO BE
ABOUT RUSSIAN OPPOSITION RESEARCH THAT A RUSSIAN LAWYER
HAD, THE FACT IS, THOSE GO ON, YOU KNOW THAT GOES ON IN
CAMPAIGNS ALL THE TIME. OPPOSITION RESEARCH IS A BIG
PART OF CAMPAIGNING. >> IT DOESN'T GO ON WITH THE
RUSSIANS ALL THE TIME, JAY. >> BUT LOOK, HERE'S WHAT
HAPPENED. FIRST OF ALL NOTHING HAPPENED.
>> ISN'T IT ALSO IMPORTANT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S LEGAL,
WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WRONG, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ETHICAL?
>> YOU'RE CONFLATING, JAKE, THREE PERSPECTIVES HERE.
THE LEGALITY, WAS THE MEETING AND WHAT TOOK PLACE LEGAL OR
NOT. WE OF COURSE, AND AS ALMOST
EVERY LEGAL EXPERT SAID IT'S NOT ILLEGAL AND THEN YOU'RE TRYING
TO PUT A MORAL ETHICAL ASPECT TO IT, AND IT'S EASY TO DO THAT IN
20/20 HINDSIGHT BUT NOT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
CAMPAIGN. >> THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
IT'S HARD TO REALLY, I'VE KNOWN JAY FOR A LONG TIME AND LIKED
JAY FOR A LONG TIME BUT THERE ARE SO MANY FALSE STATEMENTS
THERE, TALK ABOUT CONFLATING THINGS, IT'S STAGGERING, AND
JEREMY PETERS, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT JAKE SEKUEN LOW WAS FORCED
TO GO OUT AND SAY LAST WEEKEND ON THE SUNDAY SHOWS, IF YOU LOOK
AT THE STATEMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
SIGNED OFF ON WITH ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN AROUND HIM ON
AIR FORCE ONE, COMING BACK FROM EUROPE, LYING, LYING TO THE "NEW
YORK TIMES," LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, SAYING THIS
MEETING WAS JUST ABOUT ADOPTION, AND THEN THE NEXT DAY LYING
ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN IT.
THEN GOING ON A TV SHOW THAT BASICALLY A STATE-RUN TELEVISION
AND BEING ASKED AT THE END OF THAT TV SHOW, IS THERE ANYTHING
ELSE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT? AND DON JR. SAYING THAT'S IT.
AND THE NEXT DAY WE FIND OUT ANOTHER PERSON ATTENDED THE
MEETING AND THE NEXT DAY WE FIND OUT THAT SOMEBODY CONNECTED WITH
THE KGB THAT BASICALLY WAS AN INTEL OFFICER AT THE MEETING AND
THE NEXT DAY FINDING OUT THERE ARE TWO OTHER PEOPLE AT THE
MEETING. THESE PEOPLE KEEP GETTING CAUGHT
IN THEIR LIES, DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY, AND JAY SEKUEN LOW
AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES KEEP SAYING NOTHING TO
SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG, MOVE ALONG.
IT'S LIKE ACTUALLY A CHARACTER OUT OF THE SIMPSONS.
THERE IS SOMETHING TO SEE HERE, AND EVEN THEIR OWN BASE KNOW
THAT. >> THAT'S RIGHT, AND I THINK,
JOE, AS YOU SAID OVER THE WEEKEND, THAT'S WHY YOU START TO
HEAR MORE AND MORE REPUBLICANS SAYING OKAY, THIS JUST DOESN'T
PASS THE SNIFF TEST. YES, OPPOSITION RESEARCH IS A
FUNDAMENTAL PART OF ANY CAMPAIGN, BUT NOT FROM A RUSSIAN
OPERATIVE, NOT FROM A HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER, AND THE LACK OF
ACKNOWLEDGMENT BY TRUMP OR ANY OF THE PEOPLE AROUND TRUMP THAT
MAYBE THIS WAS NOT THE BEST DECISION, THAT MAYBE THIS DIDN'T
SHOW THE BEST JUDGMENT, THIS TOTAL LACK OF ANY ABILITY TO
HAVE INTROSPECTION AND CONTRITION ON THIS IS CONSISTENT
WITH A PATTERN OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM DONALD TRUMP AND HIS
PEOPLE FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S
FAULT. IT'S THE FAULT OF THE FAKE NEWS
MEDIA FOR NOT EXPLAINING THIS PROPERLY, FOR CONFLATING A BUNCH
OF THINGS AS JAKE SEKULOW TRIED TO SAY YESTERDAY.
IT'S LORETTA LYNCH'S FAULT, IT'S THE DNC'S FAULT.
IF DONALD TRUMP IS ON THE OUTS AND DOWN AND SOMETHING BAD IS
HAPPENING TO HIM, IT'S ALWAYS BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE IS CHEATING
OR LYING AND THEY HAVE NEVER EVER BEEN ABLE TO ACCEPT
RESPONSIBILITY AND SAY MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE HANDLED THINGS
THIS WAY. >> WELL YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP
IN A TWEET THIS WEEKEND TRIES TO BLAME IT ON THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA,
BUT OF COURSE, AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF AMERICANS BELIEVE IT
WAS INAPPROPRIATE. 26% THINK APPROPRIATE, 63% THINK
THAT MEETING WAS NOT APPROPRIATE.
DAVID IGNATIUS YOU HAVE JAY SEKULOW SAYING THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF LEGAL SCHOLARS SAY THERE'S NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT
THAT MEETING. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'VE BEEN
HEARING. IT'S NOT WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING
OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. IT'S NOT WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING
FROM CAPITOL HILL. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE INSIDE
THE WHITE HOUSE AND A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ON CAPITOL HILL
AFRAID THAT AT LEAST ONE MEMBER IN THAT MEETING PUT THEMSELVES
IN GRAVE LEGAL JEOPARDY BY EVEN BEING THERE, AND NOT REPORTING
IT. >> WELL, AND MAYBE MOST
IMPORTANT OF ALL, IT'S NOT JAY SEKULOW'S CALL WHETHER IT'S
LEGAL OR NOT. WE HAVE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION
UNDER WAY CONDUCTED BY ONE OF THE BEST PROSECUTORS IN AMERICA,
AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION BEGINS TO
ACCELERATE. NEW FACTS EMERGE.
PEOPLE BEGIN TO WORRY ABOUT THEIR POSITIONS.
THEY DISCLOSE THINGS THAT WERE NOT DISCLOSED EARLIER.
I'VE HEARD PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THESE
EMAILS WITH DON JR., THAT'S REALLY THE TOUGHEST STUFF THAT
WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH. WELL, WE'LL SEE, IF THAT'S TRUE,
IF THAT'S REALLY THE WORST THAT THERE IS, WE'LL SEE, BUT IN AN
INVESTIGATION LIKE THAT, NEW MATERIAL KEEPS CHURNING TO THE
TOP AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
>> YES, MIKA, I HAVE YET TO FIND A PERSON WHO THINKS THE WORST
DAYS ARE AHEAD. GO AHEAD.
>> THAT'S OKAY. THE SENATE PUTS HEALTH CARE ON
HOLD, PASSAGE OF THE REPUBLICAN'S PLAN WAS ALREADY
UNCERTAIN, AND NOW A PLANNED VOTE THIS WEEK IS POSTPONED
UNTIL AFTER SENATOR JOHN McCAIN RECOVERS FROM SURGERY.
WILL THAT HELP OR HURT THE CHANGES OF THE BILL PASSING?
>>> ALSO THIS MORNING, WE'LL BRING IN DEMOCRATIC SENATOR
DEBBIE STAB

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