WAITING FOR OUR SENATORS TO GIVE IT TO ME.
FOR YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT REPEAL, REPLACE, REPEAL
REPLACE. I THINK THEY PASSED IT 61 TIMES,
REPEAL AND REPLACE. BUT THAT DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING
BECAUSE YOU HAD THE MINORITY FOR REPUBLICANS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE MAJORITY. IF THEY EVER DID OBAMA WASN'T
GOING TO SIGN IT. >> JOINING US NOW A MEMBER OF
THE DEMOCRATING LEADERSHIP, INDEPENDENT SENATOR BERNIE
SANDERS OF VERMONT. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK HERE
ON THE SHOW. >> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
>> HE'S NOT WALKING ABOUT RULING OUT 2020.
>> WHERE DO WE FIND OURS IF 2017 IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IF JULY OF
2017? >> I THINK AT A FRIGHTENING
PLACE, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY ARE SCRATCHING
THEIR HEADS, THEY'RE INCREDIBLY WORRIED ABOUT THE TEMPERAMENT OF
THIS PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU
ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT WHAT WE SHOULD NOT ALSO
IGNORE IT'S NOT JUST TEMPERAMENT AND HIS STUPID TWEETS.
DO NOT FORGET FOR A SECOND THE POLICIES HE IS PROPOSING ARE THE
MOST DESTRUCTIVE POLICIES BEING PROPOSED IN OUR LIFETIME.
THIS LEGISLATION HE IS URGING CONGRESS TO PASS WOULD THROW 23
MILLION AMERICANS OFF HEALTH INSURANCE.
HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL DIE, WE D DON'T KNOW.
THOUSANDS OF THEM WILL. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT. THAT'S NOT ME.
THAT'S A NUMBER OF STUDIES. THIS IS LEGISLATION THAT WOULD
CUT MEDICAID BY $800 BILLION. LAST NIGHT I HAD A TELEPHONE
CONFERENCE TOWN MEETING WITH 15,000 VERMONT PEOPLE CALLING
UP, MY KID HAS A VERY, VERY SERIOUS ILLNESS.
WE'RE SPENDING A FORTUNE OFF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, WHAT HAPPENS
IF MEDICAID IS CUT IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN TELL THEM.
>> OBVIOUSLY IN VERMONT, RURAL HEALTH CARE MATTERS.
AND THE STATES, DONALD TRUMP WON, A LOT OF STATES I LIVED IN,
GEORGIA, MISSISSIPPI, ALABAMA, FLORIDA, RURAL HEALTH CARE
MATTERS. >> YEP.
>> TALK ABOUT HOW THESE CUTS IN MEDICAID WILL ACTUALLY
DISPROPORTIONATELY HURT MANY OF THE VERY PEOPLE WHO VOTED?
>> JOE, I HAVE SPENT THE LAST MONTH GOING TO PENNSYLVANIA, TO
KENTUCKY, TO WEST VIRGINIA, TO OHIO TO MAKE JUST THAT POINT.
THE REASON YOU HAVE GROUPS LIKE THE AMERICAN HOSPITAL
ASSOCIATION, NOT THE MOST PROGRESSIVE GROUP IN THE WORLD
OPPOSING THIS LEDGES LONDON ATTACKS, THEY UNDERSTAND IT CAN
MAKE SATISFY ANNUAL CUTS TO MEDICAID, THEY WILL DISAPPEAR.
WHERE DO PEOPLE GO TO GET THE CARE IF HE'S TALKING ABOUT
TAKING AWAY, REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT RIGHTS AND FREEDOM AND
CHOICE, 2.5 MILLION WOMEN HAVE CHOSEN PLANNED PARENTHOOD, TRUMP
DID WELL WITH THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
ARE YOU AN OLDER WORK, MAKING $40,000 A YEAR, YOU ARE 60 YEARS
OF AGE, YOUR PREMIUMS WILL MORE THAN DOUBLE.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IN NURSING HOMES?
>> THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT, IT'S NOT TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH.
>> MY MOTHER IS IN A NURSING HOPE RIGHT NOW.
I LOOK AT PEOPLE AROUND HER. I KNOW FOR THEM MEDICAID IS A
LIFELINE NOT ONLY FOR THEM, BUT FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
>> TWO-THIRDS OF NURSING HOME CARE IS PAID FOR MY MEDICAID.
SO SOMEBODY'S MOM IS THERE WITH ALZHEIMER'S.
YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. MAYBE YOU HAVE A KID WITH A
SEVERE DISABILITY. WHAT HAPPENS?
>> AND THEN ON TOP OF ALL OF THIS, I MEAN, THIS IS ALMOST
WHEN YOU SAY IT, PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE YOU.
BUT IT IS TRUE, THEY WANT TO GIVE $500 BILLION IN TAX BREAKS,
200 BILLION TO THE WEALTHIEST 2%.
MORE TAX BREAKS IN INSURANCE COMPANIES TAN DRUG COMPANIES.
HERE YOU HAVE A NATION WHERE YOU THROW 22 MILLION PEOPLE OFF
HEALTH INSURANCE TO GIVE TAX BREAKS TO BILLIONAIRES.
>> THAT IS WHY. IN THE LAST POLL I HAVE SEEN,
12% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUPPORT THIS ABSURD LEGISLATION
AND THAT IS WHY. THE AMA, THE AMERICAN HOSPITAL
ASSOCIATION, THE AARP, EVERY MAJOR HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATION
IN THIS COUNTRY OPPOSES THIS DISASTROUS BILL AND THAT IS WHY
THE REPUBLICANS HAVE NOT HELD ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO GO FORWARD, HEAR FROM THE DOCTORS
AND THE NURSES. >> MARK, WHAT'S YOUR OPTIMISTIC
SCENARIO FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR ABOUT WHAT WASHINGTON MIGHT
DO? >> I HOPE WE BEAT THIS THING, I
HOPE WE PETE THIS THING BADLY. I HOPE THAT TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN
RURAL STATES UNDERSTAND WHAT HE TOLD THEM DURING THE CAMPAIGN HE
WAS GOING TO STANDS UP FOR WORKING CLASS PEOPLE WAS NOTHING
BUT A LIE. IF YOU THINK THE HELD HEALTH
CARE BILL IS A DIDISASTER. TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUDGET, 3
TRILLION IN TRACTION BREAKS, THE TOP 1%.
MASSIVE CUTS IN EDUCATION IN HEALTH CARE IN ALL OF THE
PROGRAMS THE WORKING FAMILIES FEED.
HE IS NOT TO BE EXPOSED FOR THE FRAUD HE IS NOT JUST FOCUSING ON
HIS TEMPERAMENT AND TWEETS BUT ON THIS EXTREMELY WHITE WING
POLICY PAID FOR BY THE COCH BROTHERS AND OTHER BILLIONAIRES.
>> IF THEY LOOK AT THE POLICIES AND HOW IT IMPACTS TEAR LIKES,
HE HAS A BASE, IT'S THERE. >> LE HAS A BASE THE BASE IS
SHRINKING THE MORE PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT HIS POLICIES.
HE RAN AN EFFECTIVE CAMPAIGN AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO
TAKE ON THE ESTABLISHMENT AND I'M GOING TO STAND UP FOR THE
WORKING CLASS OF THIS COUNTRY THAT HAS SO LONG BEEN IG FORD
AND IN MY VIEW OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS NOT DONE A GOOD JOB IN
STANDING UP FOR THE WORKING CLASS OF THIS COUNTRY.
I THINK HE CAPTURED THAT SENTIMENT PRETTY EFFECTIVELY.
>> WHY NOT? WHERE DID THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
GO WRONG? >> FOR THE PAST MANY, MANY YEARS
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HACK SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY RAISING
MONEY FROM ITS WEALTHY FRIENDS, TURNING ITS BACK ON RURAL
AMERICA, TURNING ITS BACK ON THE WORKING CLASS, TALKING ABOUT
DEREGULATING WALL STREET TALKING ABOUT NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO
THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE WHOSE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS BEEN IN
DECLINE. NOW OBAMA IN MY VIEW DID A
REASONABLE JOB. WE WERE BETTER OFF AFTER HIS
EIGHT YEARS ECONOMICALLY THAN WHEN WE CAME IN.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER, 40 YEARS IN THIS COUNTRY THE MIDDLE CLASS
HAS BEEN DECLINED WE ARE LOCKING AT 52% OF ALL NEW INCOME IS
GOING TO THE TOP 1%. HAVE YOU LARGE MULTINATIONAL
CORPORATIONS MAKING BILLIONS WITHOUT PAYING A NICKEL IN
TAXES. THE AVERAGE AMERICAN UNDERSTANDS
THAT, WORKING TWO OR THREE JOBS, ALL OF THE WEALTH AND PHYSICAL
GOING TO PEOPLE ON TOP. WHO IS TALKING TO THEIR NEEDS?
WHO IS GOING TO KENTUCKY AND MISSISSIPPI AND ALABAMA AND SAY
WE'RE PREPARED TO TAKE ON CORPORATE AMERICA AND WALL
STREET AND THE BIG MONEY. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK, YOU ARE
AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THE ONLY SENATOR CAUCUS ON STATES ON HIS
OR HER OWN TO TALK TO VOTERS ABOUT HEALTHCARE IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES. YOU RINGED WEST VIRGINIA,
KENTUCKY, IOWA. TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU, ONE IS
SHOULD YOUR COLLEAGUES BE DOING THE SAME.
THE SECOND IS IS IT ODD, YOU ARE FOUGHT A NOTABLE DEFENDER OF
OBAMA CAR YOU WANT SINGLE PAYER, HERE ARE YOU THE PUBLIC FACE
ALMOST OF THE PARTY'S DEFENSE OF ObamaCare.
>> OF COURSE IT'S NOT ODD FOR ME.
THAT'S WHAT MY JOB IS. PY JOB IS TO GO TO A STATE LIKE
IOWA THIS IS THE MOST DO YOU KNOW WHAT STATE SAW A
SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN THE NUMBER OF UNINSURED FROM 20% TO
7, 8%. % OF KENTUCKY, THEY ARE MADE
REAL PROGRESS. HOW DO YOU HAVE A UNITED STATES
SENATOR REPRESENTING A STATE THAT IS EXTRAORDINARILY WEALTHY.
I WILL THROW 30,000 PEOPLE IN MY STATE OFF HEALTH INSURANCE.
ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY, PEOPLE FEEL HELPLESS, POWERLESS IS
THERE. >> THEY'RE SCARED.
>> THEY'RE SCARED. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
I THISHIS I WHAT WE GOT TO DO I REMAKE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.
I GO OUT THERE AND SAY HAVE YOU THE POWER, STAND UP, FIGHT BACK,
ORGANIZE, WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE STATES THAT NEED TO BE VISITED.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO BE REINVIGORATED TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IS ABOUT.
>> DOES THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY GET THAT?
DO YOUR FRIENDS IN THE SENATE GET THAT?
>> I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN AGREE.
>> DOES THERE NEETDZ TO BE NEW ORGANIZATIONS OR SIMPLY THE DNC
AND GRASS ROOTS. >> I THINK WE NEED MAJOR EFFORTS
IF BUILDING GRASS ROOTS ORGANIZATIONS.
ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU HAVING GONE THROUGH MANY OF THESE
STATES, THEY'RE EXTRAORDINARY PEOPLE OUT THERE.
BLEW MY MIND. WE WENT TO WEST VIRGINIA.
THE GUY GETS UP THERE. YOUNG MAN, 30 YEARS OF AGE,
RUSTY, HE TALKS ABOUT HIS STRUGGLE WITH TESTICULAR CANCER,
LIFE AND DEATH STRUGGLE, SO ARTICULATE.
SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GUY. THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE THAT ALL
OVER THIS COUNTRY. WHEN MEDIA SOMETIMES THEY WERE A
DIVIDED COUNTRY. IN MANY RESPECTS, WE ARE NOT
DIVIDED. WHEN ONLY 12% OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE SUPPORT UGLY LEGISLATION THAT WOULD DO WHAT THIS
LEGISLATION WOULD DO. AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO RAISE
THE MINIMUM WAGE, REBUILD OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT THE WEALTHY
TO HAVE TAX BREAKS BUT PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.
WE BOUGHT THE TO GO OUT AND BRING THEM TOGETHER.
DEMOCRATS HAVE IGNORED