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>>> I LOOKED THE MAN IN THE EYE. I FOUND HIM TO BE VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TRUSTWORTHY. WE HAD A VERY GOOD DIALOGUE.
I WAS ABLE TO GET A SENSE OF HIS SOUL, A MAN DEEPLY COMMITTED TO
HIS COUNTRY AND THE BEST INTERESTS OF HIS COUNTRY.
AND I APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH, THE FRANK DIALOGUE.
>> WELCOME BACK TO "MORNING JOE."
IT IS FRIDAY, JULY 7TH. WITH US WE HAVE SENIOR POLITICAL
ANALYST FOR NBC NEWS AND MSNBC, MARK HALPREN.
>> HE LOOKED INTO MY SOUL. >> WHAT DID HE FIND?
A. >> APPEASEMENT.
>> A BALONEY SANDWICH. AT LEAST HE FOUND IT.
>> APPEASEMENT AND A BOLOGNAOLO SANDWICH.
>> RICHARD HOSS, DAVID IGNACIOUS, AND CHRISTOPHER HILL
JOINING US THIS MORNING. GREAT TO HAVE YOU.
>> A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE ON THE SET.
I WANT TO GO TO SMART PERSON NUMBER ONE, NOT IN ANY
PARTICULAR ORDER. DAVID, YOU HAVE GEORGE W. BUSH
MAKING THAT MISTAKE IN 2001, A MISTAKE THAT HE RECOGNIZED SOON
AFTER. BARACK OBAMA WHISPERING IN 2012,
HEY, AFTER I WIN I'LL HAVE A LITTLE MORE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO
WORK WITH RUSSIA. AND IT SEEMS LIKE PUTIN HAS BEEN
PLAYING OUR PRESIDENTS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND WOULD INVADE A
COUNTRY IN EACH ADMINISTRATION'S EIGHT YEARS.
SO HOW DO WE AVOID MAKING A MISTAKE THE THIRD TIME?
>> UNDERRATING PUTIN BOTH HIS CAPACITY FOR MISCHIEF AND ALSO
HIS ABILITY TO PLAY A WEEKEND EFFECTIVELY HAS BEEN, I THINK, A
CONSISTENT PROBLEM FOR U.S. DIPLOMACY THROUGH NOW THREE
ADMINISTRATIONS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT PUTIN, YOU
SEE THIS IMMENSE NEED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN A WEIRD WAY
HE'S ALMOST AN ANALOG TO DONALD TRUMP.
HE'S A TOUGH, BRASH, BULLYING PERSON, BUT HE'S ALSO PRETTY
INSECURE, AND I THINK WHAT PUTIN MOST WANTS OUT OF THIS SUMMIT IS
TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A WORLD LEADER.
THIS RUSSIAN SENSE OF DISPOSSESSION AND LOSS AFTER THE
END OF THE COLD WAR HAS ALWAYS BEEN.
I THINK IN SOME WAYS SPEAKING TO THAT WITHOUT SACRIFICING U.S.
INTERESTS PROBABLY WOULD BE USEFUL OVER THE LONG RUN,
GETTING RUSSIA INSIDE THE TENT FEYING OUTWARD AS WE LIKE TO
SAY. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE
MYSTERY OF THIS MEETING TODAY. >> INTERESTING YOU DREW A A LIN
BETWEEN PUTIN AND TRUMP AND THEIR INSECURITIES.
ONE DIPLOMAT TOLD ME THE LOODER OF THE COUNTRY LOOKED AT THE TWO
THE SAME. YOU WIN THEM OVER WITH FLATTERY
AND SAY HOW DO YOU MANAGE CARRYING ALL THE PROBLEMS OF THE
WORLD ON YOUR SHOULDERS? RICHARD HOSS, WHY DO WE KEEP
MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN AND WHAT DOES THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION NEED TO DO? >> GO BACK TO FDR AND STALIN.
THERE'S ALWAYS AN AMERICAN SENSE YOU CAN PERSONALIZE DIPLOMACY
AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. THERE'S A ROMANCE ABOUT RUSSIA.
PUTIN DOES NOT WANT TO MAKE RUSSIA GREAT AGAIN.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL REFORM.
HE CAN'T ALLOW THAT. HE WANTS TO MAKE RUSSIA SEEM AS
A GREAT POWER AGAIN. HE WANTS RESPECT AND STANDING.
WE CAN GIVE IT TO HIM, BUT CONDITIONALLY.
THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION. WE SHOULD TREAT HIM WITH RESPECT
BUT SHOULD MAKE IT CLEAR IN ORDER TO GET WHAT HE WANTS HE
NEEDS TO PLAY BY CERTAIN RULES IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND EUROPE
AND CYBER SPACE. >> I'M NOT CLEAR EXACTLY ON WHAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S GOALS ARE FOR THIS COUNTRY.
HIS BRAND IS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
THERE'S AN ARTICLE THAT SAYS PRESIDENT TRUMP MEETS WITH
VLADIMIR PUTIN ON FRIDAY AN THE RUSSIAN STRONGMAN SENT HIS EARLY
REGARDS ON THURSDAY BY KNICKSING A U.S. RESOLUTION AT THE U.N.
SECURITY COUNCIL CONDEMNING NORTH KOREA'S LATEST MISSILE
LAUNCH. OUR FRIENDS, THE RUSSIANS STILL
OBJECTED. THE KREMLIN EXCUSE IS THAT THE
DRAFT, U.S. STATEMENT REFERRED TO THE ROCKET AS AN AN
INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE.
NEVER MIND THAT NORTH KOREA CLAIMS THE MISSILE WAS THE
EQUIVALENT OF THE ICBM AND ANALYSIS OF THE ALTITUDE AND
TRAJECTORY SUGGESTS THE SAME. THE LIKELIER EXPLANATION IS
PUTIN WANTS TO SEND A MESSAGE, HE CAN MAKE TROUBLE.
>> CHRIS HILL, IS IT THAT LIKELY WHAT RUSSIA WAS DOING EARLIER
THIS WEEK, JUST SENDING A MESSAGE KNOWING THIS MEETING WAS
COMING UP? >> I SUSPECT SO.
ALTHOUGH, I THINK EVERY GREAT POWER FOLLOWS ITS OWN INTERESTS.
IN RUSSIA'S CASE THEY LOOK FOR WAYS TO BE DIFFICULT WITH US.
I THINK SPITE IS A BIG ELEMENT IN THEIR FOREIGN POLICY.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE NO REASON TO HAVE ANY KIND OF DIFFERENT VIEW
ON NORTH KOREA THAN WE DO. IT IS INSTRUCTIVE THAT RUSSIA
AND CHINA ARE GETTING BEHIND THE IDEA THAT IF NORTH KOREA FREEZES
ITS NUCLEAR TESTS, THE U.S. SHOULD FREEZE IT MILITARY
ALLIANCE. ITS EXERCISES WITH THE SOUTH
KOREANS. THIS IS A STRATEGY BASICALLY
AIMED AT WEAKENING THE U.S. SOUTH KOREAN RELATIONSHIP AND
WEAKENING THE MILITARY ALLIANCE THERE, REDUING IT TO SOMETHING
MORE ON PAPER. IN DOING IN AN EFFORT TO
DECOUPLE THE U.S. FROM SOUTH KOREA.
THERE'S A LONGER-TERM GOAL HERE, AND ALASS, I THINK RUSSIA AND
NORTH KOREA SHARE THAT GOAL. >> CLINT, THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF
ACKNOWLEDGED IN APRIL THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE UNITED
STATES AND RUSSIA IN HIS TERMS IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW.
REX TILLERSON REITERATED THAT. YOU HAVE KOREA AND SYRIA AND
THEN THERE'S RUSSIA'S METTLING IN THE ELECTION.
IT'S INCREDIBLE WE'RE DEBATING WHETHER OR NOT A PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES WOULD RAISE THAT NOT FOR HIS OWN SAKE BUT
RAISE IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE COUNTRY HE REPRESENTS THAT
ANOTHER FOREIGN POWER WAS INTERFEING AND TRYING TO CHANGE
THE OUTCOME OF AN ELECTION. CAN WE WALK OUT OF THE MEETING
WITHOUT HAVING SAID SOMETHING ABOUT METTLING?
>> RICHARD AND I WERE TALKING AT THE BREAK.
HE HAS TO DO SOMETHING, OR CREATE THE PERCEPTION THAT HE
DID SOMETHING. THERE'S NO ONE IN THE ROOM
HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE. HE CAN SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS OR
HE CAN COME OUT AND SAY THAT HE SAID I TALKED TO MR. PUTIN ABOUT
CYBER SECURITY. WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER ON
THIS WHICH IS A PASS. THE PROBLEM IS HACKERS IN
NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS INSIDE THE UNITED STATES.
THEY ARE ATTRIBUTING IT TO RUSSIA AGAIN.
UNTIL A FORCE IS MET AGAINST THEIR FORCE, RUSSIA WILL
CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD IN CYBER SPACE, AND THERE'S BEEN NO
PLAN WITH WHAT WE WANT RUSSIA TO DO IN CYBER SPACE OR WHAT WE
WILL DO AS A COUNTER. UNTIL THAT TIMES, PUTIN SEES
THIS AS AN OPEN DOOR INTO AN AMERICA.
HE CAN METTLE. HE CAN DISABLE OUR ELECTRICAL
GRIDS. IF I WERE PUTIN, I WOULD PUSH
FORWARD. >> PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE
SYMBOLISM. IS IT AMERICA'S INTEREST TO BE
SEEN AS FRIENDLY OR CONFRONTATIONAL?
>> BOTH. OUR GOAL IS NOT TO ISOLATE
RUSSIA. THEY CAN BE A REAL SPOILER IN
NORTH KOREA, UKRAINE. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE SHOULDN'T
ASSUME THEY'RE A PARTNER. THIS IS TRICKY.
THIS IS A MULTIPERSONALITY RELATIONSHIP.
WE HAVE TO SAY WE RESPECT YOU. RUSSIA HAS A GREAT TRADITION,
BUT HERE ARE THE TERMS. HERE ARE THE RULES THAT WE'RE
PREPARED TO WORK WITH YOU ON. IT HAS TO BE A CONDITIONAL
RELATIONSHIP. AND THAT'S THE TRICK, TO GET
THAT BALANCE RIGHT BETWEEN

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