GENTLEMEN, WELCOME. I'M GOING TO BE FULL DISCLOSURE.
YOU ARE ON HERE BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT YOUR
EXPERIENCE IN CAPITOL HILL, YOUR EXPERIENCE WORK WG THE WEST
WING, ALL THIS CRAZY DYSFUNCTION.
SO YOU'RE LEARNING THIS NEWS AS I AM.
YOU'VE WORKED IN A WHITE HOUSE, ALEX, SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, I
THINK, LOOK, SECRETARY KELLY, THERE'S NO DOUBT THIS WILL GET
GOOD REVIEWS. THIS HAS BEEN A VERY
PROFESSIONAL GUY. I'VE HAD INTERACTIONS WITH HIM.
HE'S A VERY IMPRESSIVE INDIVIDUAL.
BUT THERE IS A LOT OF ASPECTS OF BEING CHIEF OF STAFF THAT HE'S
HAD NO EXPERIENCE DOING. WHAT'S YOUR QUICK TAKE ON THIS?
>> WELL, THIS WAS NOT A SURPRISE.
I MEAN, THE SITUATION WAS UNTENABLE.
THERE WERE EFFECTIVELY TWO CHIEFS OF STAFF WITH THE MOOCH
-- >> ON A GOOD DAY THERE WERE TWO.
>> WE WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND CLEARLY THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE
WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE PRESIDENT.
THAT WAS UNTENABLE. NOW ONE OF THEM IS OUT.
THE BIG QUESTION I THINK IS DO DOES THE NEW CHIEF OF STAFF,
DOES HE REORGANIZE THE WEST WING.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT REINCE PRIEBUS.
THIS IS A RECOGNITION THAT SIX MONTHS INTO THIS PRESIDENCY IT
IS A FAILED PRESIDENCY. HE HAS NOT DONE ANY OF THE BIG
THINGS THAT HE PROMISED HE WOULD DO.
AND HE DOESN'T HAVE MOMENTUM ON ANY OF THE BIG THINGS.
SO IT'S A REFLECTION THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE A SHAKE UP MT
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. >> I'VE GOT TO THINK CAPITOL
HILL IS LOOKING AT THIS GOING OH, OKAY.
THIS WILL BE OKAY. >> YEAH.
I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LAYERS OF THAT.
I MEAN, REINCE PRIEBUS HAS A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH SPEAKER
RYAN. ON THE OTHER HAND, HE DOESN'T
HAVE DEEP LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE.
HE COMES FROM THE POLITICAL SIDE OF THE OPERATION.
OBVIOUSLY GENERAL KELLY DOESN'T EITHER.
BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS WHETHER THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO
UNDERCUT HIS NEW CHIEF OF STAFF THE WAY HE UNDERCUT HIS OLD
CHIEF OF STAF STAFFMENT THE PRO WITH REINCE PRIEBUS AS CHIEF OF
STAFF HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH REINCE.
>> HE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO BE CHIEF OF STAFF.
>> CORRECT. >> LET'S BE FAIR HERE.
DID HE EVER HAVE A CHANCE? >> NO, THIS IS THE PROBLEM OF
THIS PRESIDENT WHO CAN'T PICK A COURSE, PLAN AND STICK WITH IT
LONG ENOUGH TO ACHIEVE A GOAL. AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER
GENERAL KELLY WITH HIS MILITARY BACKGROUND WITH PRESUMABLY A
HIGHER LEVEL FROM THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF CAN GET THE PRESIDENT TO
FOCUS IN A KIPT WAY. >> I FIND IT INTERESTING IT DOES
COME AFTER BASICALLY ON THE DAY AFTER THE FAILURE OF HEALTH
CARE. AND AS YOU JUST POINT OUT
EARLIER, HE DOESN'TT HAVE A LEGISLATIVE -- MAJOR LEGISLATIVE
ACCOMPLISHMENT. IT WAS TEERTING TOWARD FAILURE
HERE IN GENERAL. THIS IS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF
THAT. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS AN AK NONLMENT THAT IKS IS SIX MONTHS IN THIS PRESIDENCY
IS HEADING ON THE WRONG TRACK. HIS POLL NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GO
FURTHER AND FURTHER DOWN. THE SPEECH HE GAVE THIS ARCH IT
WAS ABOUT TRYING TO DEFEND HIS BASE, PROTECT HIS BASE BECAUSE I
THINK A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES ARE NOW SAYING WHAT'S THE POINT OF
HAVING ALL THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT IF PRESIDENT TRUMP
CAN'T DELIVER ANYTHING. SO I THINK IT'S A RECOGNITION
THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME SORT OF A RESET.
HOPEFULLY ELEMPOWER THE NEW CHIEF OF STAFF TO MAKE THE
CHANGES. AND THAT ELLISTEN TO THIS NEW
ONE UNLIKE HE DOES HIS LAST ONE. >> ONE OTHER ASPECT OF GENERAL
KELLY HERE IS HE DOES ROIMS ACROSS THE AISLE AND THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL WHITE HOUSE CHIEFS OF STAFF HAD THAT.
I'M THINKING LEON PAN ET AT THAT, ANDY CAR, FRANKLY DENNIS
McDONE OH OVERTIME. JACK LIEU IN MANY WAYS.
>> YEAH. I THINK FIRST OF ALL FAR FROM
DRAINING THE SWAMP THIS IS THE MOST WASHINGTON MOVE YOU CAN
IMAGINE. BIG LEGISLATIVE FAILURE, HEADS
WILL ROLL. NOT OBVIOUSLY THE PRESIDENT, BUT
WE'LL MAKE SOME CHANGES IN THE STAFF.
BRING IN THE NEW COACH. BUT ONE QUESTION AS YOU POINT
OUT IS WHETHER THIS SIGNALS THAT WHEN THE PRESIDENT WON
UNEXPECTEDLY AND WE HAD REPUBLICAN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE,
THE SENATE AND THE WHITE HOUSE, UNEXPECTEDLY, THEY EMBARKED ON A
VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGN TO ACT WITH
-- USING RECONCILIATION, STRICT PARTY LINE EFFORTS.
>> A PARTISAN LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGN.
>> HEALTH CARE HAS WOBLD IT SEEMS TO ITS CONCLUSION.
TAX REFORM IS NEXT. RESUMEABLY IF WE CAN GET THE
BUDGET DONE, ALSO IDEALLY ON A PARTISAN BASIS.
IS THIS A SIGNAL THAT THE PRESIDENT IS SEEING THE LIMITS
OF THAT PARTISAN ONLY STRATEGY AND LOOKING FOR A BROADER
COALITION? >> ONE THING I FELT LIKE THAT
CAME IS THAT THE PARTY STILL HASN'T RECONCILED WHAT IT'S FOR
RIGHT NOW. THE DIFFERENT FAXES IN THE
PARTY, ALE, AND YOU WENT THROUGH THIS THE HARD WAY DURING THE
CAMPAIGN, BUT THE DIFFERENT FAXES, THE PRESIDENT TAPPED INTO
THIS POPULIST BASE, BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN ANOTHER PLACE,
DIFFERENT FACTO INS. WHAT UNITED THEM WAS BIFRM
SIMPLY OBAMA AND THAT CAME TO AN END.
WHAT ROLE SHOULD McCONNELL AND RYAN NOW PLAY IN ALL THIS.
>> OBVIOUS STL THEY'RE LEADERS OF THE REPUBLICANS ON CAPITOL
HILL AND THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT ROLE BECAUSE THE WHITE
HOUSE -- >> ARE THEY WEAKER TODAY BECAUSE
OF WHAT HAPPENED IN HEALTH CARE? >> I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, LOOK, HEALTH CARE DIDN'T PASS BECAUSE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> REALLY YOU LAY IT AT THE FEET OF MORE THAN --
>> FIRST OF ALL, HE'S THE LEADER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BUT
SECOND OF ALL, NO CONGRESS IS GOING TO PASS MONUMENTAL REFORMS
WITHOUT PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP. WHERE WERE THE PRESIDENTIAL
SPEECHES, PRESS CONFERENCES. >> WHERE WAS THE EVENT IN BANG
OR, MAINE FOR INSTANCE OR CHARLESTON WEST VIRGINIA.
>> I ABSOLUTELY PUT IT AT THE PRESIDENT'S FEET.
>> REPUBLICANS ARE ALWAYS ON BAD GROUND ON HEALTH CARE.
THIS IS NOT ONE WING. TAXES, THE ECONOMY THESE ARE
AREAS WHERE WE'RE STRONG. POLL STERS REPORTED TODAY THAT
WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS STILL SAY REPUBLICANS ARE BETTER ON
THE JOB AND ECONOMY. >> WELL, AND YOU WOULD HAVE
ASSUMED MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THAT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN HINDSIGHT.
BOY, THAT VISION AT THIS POINT IS 2100.
MICHAEL STEELE, ALEX