HAD A
MEETING WITH A LAWYER THAT WAS CONNECTED TO THE KREMLIN,
AND HE DID SOMETHING STRANGE.
HE KIND OF ADMITTED THAT HE WAS LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN, BUT IF YOU ARE
GETTING IT FROM A FOREIGN SOURCE, THAT MIGHT BE ILLEGAL,
AND ESPECIALLY IF IT IS STOLEN, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT
CRIME AND YOU OPEN YOURSELF UP TO A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT
TODAY, WE FOUND OUT WHAT THIS CONTEXT ACTUALLY WERE AND THAT
IS BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP JR.
HIMSELF RELEASED THOSE EMAILS.
WELL, THAT IS REALLY INTERESTING.
HE SAID TO EVERYONE, IN ORDER TO BE TOTALLY TRANSPARENT, I
AM RELEASING THE ENTIRE EMAIL CHAIN OF MY EMAILS.
YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND GO, I GUESS HE IS NOTHING TO HIDE.
YOU WOULD BE WRONG.
IT TURNS OUT HE SHOULD NOT HAVE RELEASED THESE EMAILS.
HE DIDN'T DO VOLUNTARILY.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS ALL OVER TV GOING HE IS TOTALLY
TRANSPARENT THAT THE GOODNESS OF HIS HEART.
NO, THE NEW YORK TIMES ARTIE HAD THE EMAILS THAT THEY WERE
ALREADY PRINTING A STORY ABOUT AND THEY SAID LOOK, HERE'S
WHAT YOUR EMAIL SAY, IS IT TRUE OR NOT TRUE?
THIS IS AFTER HE FIRST DENIED THAT HE EVER HAD THE
MEETING, THEN THE SECOND LINE WAS IT WAS JUST ABOUT
ADOPTION, AND THEN WHEN HE FOUND OUT THEY KNOW WHAT THE
MEETING WAS ABOUT HE WAS LIKE FINE, I WAS TRYING TO GET
THERE ON HILLARY CLINTON, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITHÖ
SUCH A, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT.
NOW HE IS UNLIKE HERE THE EMAILS.
YESTERDAY HE TWEETED OUT, OBVIOUSLY I'M THE FIRST
PERSON ON A CAMPAIGN EVER TAKE A MEETING TO HEAR AND BELL
ABOUT AN OPPONENT, WENT NOWHERE BUT HAD TO LISTEN.
YOU SCHMUCK, YOUíRE NOT SUPPOSED TO ADMIT THAT.
YES, YOU CAN GO AND TRY TO GET OPPOSITION RESEARCH ON PEOPLE.
THAT'S IN ALL PART OF A CAMPAIGN, BUT NOT FROM A FOREIGN
SOURCE AND ON TOP OF THAT, HOW ELSE WOULD THEY HAVE GOTTEN IT
BUT STEALING IT AND IT IS NOT NORMAL PROCEDURE.
FOR EXAMPLE AL GORE'S TEAM GOT MAILED A TAPE OF GEORGE
BUSH'S PRACTICE FOR THE DEBATES THAT THEY THE WHOLE THING
AND THEY COULD'VE LOOKED AT IT.
THAT IS BEAUTIFUL OPPOSITION RESEARCH, AND PREPARE
BETTER FOR THE DEBATE.
THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THIS MUST BE STOLEN, SO
THEY TURNED IT OVER TO THE FBI.
THAT IS HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH STOLEN MATERIAL
OR THINGS THAT YOU REASONABLY BELIEVED COULD HAVE BEEN STOLEN.
INSTEAD, RUSSIAN OR THIS CASE, FOOLS RUSH IN.
HE'S LIKE YOU I COULD STUFF FROM THE RUSSIANS, LET'S DO IT.
DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, I'M ABOUT TO REDO HIS EMAILS.
THE GUY WHO IS INTERMEDIARY HERE IS A GUY NAMED ROB GOLDSTONE.
HE WAS IN THE UK.
HE HELPED WITH THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT AND HE HOPED OF DONALD
TRUMP AND DONALD TRUMP JR.
WITH SOME OF HIS RUSSIAN
CONTACTS BEFORE AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHO HE IS GOING TO
REFER TO HERE.
IS A FAMILY THAT IS VERY WELL-CONNECTED IN RUSSIA, THE
SUN IS A POP SINGER AND THE DAD IN THAT FAMILY IS A REAL
ESTATE MOGUL.
THE SON'S NAME IS HIM IN AGUILAR OFF AND HIS DAD'S NAME IS
RS I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS YOUR CONTACTS FOR THIS EMAIL.
GOLDSTEIN EMAILS DONALD JR. AND SAYS AM IN THE YOUNGER
GUY JUST CALLED AND ASKED ME TO CONTACT YOU SOMETHING VERY
INTERESTING.
THE CROWN PROSECUTOR OF RUSSIA MET WITH HIS FATHER RS THIS
MORNING AND IN THEIR MEETING OFFERED TO PROVIDE THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN WITH SOME OF OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION
THAT COULD INCRIMINATE HILLARY AND HER DEALINGS WITH
RUSSIA AND WOULD BE VERY USEFUL TO YOUR FATHER.
NOW ROB GOLDSTONE ALSO A CLOWN, COURSE, HE DOES WITH THE
TRUMP FAMILY.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE CROWN PROSECUTOR OF RUSSIA.
THERE IS A TITLE THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE UK, THAT IS WHY HE
ASSUMED THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED IN RUSSIA.
IT IS NOT.
BUT THAT IS NOT RELEVANT.
WHAT HE IS SAYING TO DON TRUMP JR.
HERE IS I HAVE THE
TOP PROSECUTOR IN RUSSIA WHO IS GOING TO GIVE YOU OFFICIAL
DOCUMENTS THAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE.
ANY PERSON THAT HAS ANY SENSE, LET'S PUT ASIDE MORALITY
FOR A SECOND, BUT ALSO DOESN'T WANT TO BREAK THE LAW WOULD
IMMEDIATELY GO WAIT, I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE INFORMATION
FROM THE RUSSIANS ON MY OPPONENT.
THAT IS POTENTIALLY VERY ILLEGAL AND OBVIOUSLY NOT THE RIGHT
THING TO DO.
LET ME GO TURN THIS INTO DON GOES THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
HOLD FOR THAT.
GOLDSTONE FURTHER CLARIFIES, THIS WOULD INCRIMINATE
HILLARY AND HER DEALINGS WITH RUSSIA AND WOULD BE VERY
USEFUL TO YOUR FATHER.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY VERY HIGH LEVEL AND SENSITIVE
INFORMATION BUT AS PART OF RUSSIA AND ITS GOVERNMENTíS
SUPPORT FOR MR.
TRUMP.
I KNOW THERE'S STILL SOME OUT THERE WHO ARE LIKE, THERE
IS NO EVIDENCE THAT IT WAS CONNECTED TO RUSSIA.
EXCEPT THE FACT THAT HE JUST SAID IT IS CONNECTED TO
RUSSIA AND IT IS TO HELP YOUR FATHER, BUT HOLD THAT WAS
PREVENTED DONALD JR..
THOSE ARE JUST EMAILS HE RECEIVED OUT WHAT HE
REPLIED BACK?
IF IT'S WHAT YOU SAY I LOVE IT ESPECIALLY LATER IN THE SUMMER.
OOPS, THERE YOU GO.
HEROES PANEL TRUMP JR.
SAYING IF YOU HAVE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS
FROM THE RUSSIANS, I WOULD LIKE TO COLLUDE WITH YOU AND IT IS TO
HELP WITH MY FATHER'S CAMPAIGN AS HE WROTE AN EMAIL.
IF IT IS AS YOU SAY IN THE EMAIL, I WOULD LOVE IT.
DOES IT HAVE TO GET ANY CLEARER?
IF THEY WERE TRYING TO FIND THEMSELVES THEY COULDN'T
HAVE MADE ANY CLEARER.
WHAT DID I TELL YOU GUYS AS TO WHY THE ULTRAM PLAN WAS
GOING TO GET CAUGHT?
BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO STUPID TO DO A COVER UP.
WHO RECOMMENDS LIKE THIS?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE WITH THE RUSSIANS AND TAKE THEIR
DOCUMENTS THAT GOD KNOWS WHERE THEY GOT THEM AND USE THEM
AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON TO HELP YOUR FATHER?
WHY, YES I WOULD.
WHETHER THAT COLLISION IS ILLEGAL
IS A QUESTION WEIRD WHEN YOU GET TO IN A SECOND, BUT IT IS
COLLUSION.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
GOLDSTONE ALSO WROTE ONE OF THE EMAILS DON, HOPE ALL IS
WELL WITH HIM IN, THE GUY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, AND ASKED
THAT I SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH YOU AND THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT
ATTORNEY WHO WAS FLYING OVER FROM MOSCOW FOR THIS THURSDAY.
I BELIEVE YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS MEETING AND SO WONDERED IF
3 PM OR LATER ON THURSDAY WORKS FOR YOU.
YOU CAN'T WRITE IT UP ANY BETTER.
REMEMBER, DON, IT IS A RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LAWYER AND I
KNOW YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS MEETING.
OF COURSE JR.
RESPONSE, YES, BUT CAN WE MAKE A 4 O'CLOCK.
JESUS, MAN.
NOW THEY'RE SAYING MAYBE THE DEMOCRATS SET US UP.
LET ME GET THIS RIGHT THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE PLAYING
THREE-DIMENSIONAL CHESS TO LOSE THE ELECTION?
MAYBE THEY ARE.
ONLY THE DEMOCRATS DO THAT EVEN IF THEY WERE, DON'T THINK
WOULD LOVE TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL.
SO IS ILLEGAL?
SO RICHARD PAINTED THE FORMER AT THE FLAVOR GEORGE W.
BUSH THAT IF HE ATTENDED TO GET LEGALIST ON PRIVATE INFORMATION
FROM THE RUSSIANS IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR TO ATTEMPT TO DO SO.
JUST LIKE BUYING STOLEN GOODS FOR OFFENSE.
IN THIS CASE IS MADE DEFENSELESS IS NOT A DEFENSE AT ALL WAS
I THOUGHT IT WAS A RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LAWYER AND I
THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GET ME REALLY GOOD OPPOSITION
RESEARCH ON MY OPPONENT AND HELP METAL IN THIS ELECTION, BUT
AS IT TURNED OUT, THEY DIDN'T HAVE REALLY GOOD
INFORMATION FOR ME SO I WAS ANNOYED AT THE MEETING
BECAUSE IT TURNED OUT JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT POLICY
AND WE WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT POLICY AT THAT POINT.
THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT ANY BETTER.
IT MIGHT'VE MADE IT WORSE.
SAY NO, I WAS ONLY INTERESTED IN THE INCRIMINATING STAFF.
POLICY, I WASN'T EVER A POLICY MEETING.
WILL THEY BE ABLE TO PROVE IN COURT THAT HE HAD THE
INTENT TO RECEIVE STOLEN GOODS?
AND THAT HE INVOLVE JARED KUSHNER WHO WAS ALSO AT THE
MEETING AND PAUL MANAFORT WHO IS THE CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR
TRUMPET THAT TIME AND WHETHER YOU CAN PROVE ALL THREE OF
THEM HAD INTENT TO RECEIVE STOLEN GOODS?
THAT IS A GOOD OPEN QUESTION.
WE WILL SEE YOU IN COURT AND TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
YOU KNOW WHAT COMES BEFORE COURT THOUGH?
HANDCUFFS.
ANYWAY, NOW THIS A SECOND LEGAL PROBLEM THAT HE HAS WITH THIS.
RICK HASSON WHO IS AN ELECTION LAW EXPERT SAID THAT TO THE
QUESTIONS AREN'T KNOWLEDGE IT WAS A FOREIGN SERVICE, NOW
CREDIBLE FLASHLIGHTS NEW YORK TIMES STORIES CORRECT, AS
WELL AS OF THE INFORMATION BEING PROVIDED COUNTS AS ANYTHING
OF VALUE FOR PURPOSES OF THE LAW.
LET ME EXPLAIN THAT.
DID HE KNOW THAT IT WAS A FOREIGN SOURCE?
NOW THERE IS NO QUESTION BECAUSE HE HIMSELF IS ADMITTED, YES,
THESE ARE THE EMAILS THAT I KNEW IT WAS A RUSSIAN FOREIGN SOURCE.
SO CHECK ON THE FIRST PART OF THE TEST.
THE SECOND PART OF THE TEST IS NOT WHETHER THE
INCRIMINATING INFORMATION THAT HE RECEIVED WAS GRADES AND
WAS USED AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON.
NO, THE QUESTION IS IT ANYTHING OF VALUE, MEANING IS IT
WORTH ANYTHING?
DOESN'T HAVE MONETARY VALUE?
AGAIN, EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T CLEAR ON WHERE THE SOURCES AGAIN, THE
EMAIL FROM GOLDSTONE SAYS THIS IS OBVIOUSLY VERY HIGH-LEVEL
SENSITIVE INFORMATION, BUT AS PART OF RUSSIA AND ITS
GOVERNMENTíS SUPPORT OF MR.
TRUMP AND OF COURSE, DONALD
TRUMP JR.
FAMOUSLY REPLIED I LOVE IT TO THAT EMAIL.
NOW ON TO WHETHER JUST GETTING INFORMATION HAS MONETARY
VALUE.
IT DEPENDS ON THE KIND OF INFORMATION.
IF YOU
COULD GOOGLE IT ON YOUR OWN, NO, HAS NO MONETARY VALUE.
IF IT IS OTHER KINDS OF INFORMATION, WE ARTY HAVE
RULINGS ON THAT.
THERE'S A 1990 RULING BY THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION AND
IT READS LIKE THIS, AND I WILL BE WITH YOU AND THEN I WILL
EXPLAIN THAT THEY FIND THAT IN THAT CASE, IF HOWEVER, MR.
HOCHBERG IMPARTS PAUL RUSSELL INFORMATION TO YOU OR ANYONE
ELSE WORKING FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN, INCLUDING ANY DATA OR ANY
ANALYSIS OF THE RESULTS, OR IF HE USES THE POLE INFORMATION TO
ADVISOR CAMPAIGN ON MATTERS SUCH AS CAMPAIGN STRATEGY OR CREATING
MEDIA MESSAGES, SUCH PULL INFORMATION WILL CONSTITUTE AN
IN-KIND CONTRIBUTION FROM HIM TO YOUR CAMPAIGN, AND AN
EXPENDITURE AND AN EQUAL AMOUNT BY YOUR COMMITTEE.
MEETING, HE SPENT MONEY ON THAT PULLED I THINK IS YOU THE
INFORMATION FROM THE POLICEMAN MONEY ON, THAT IS A CONTRIBUTION
TO YOUR CAMPAIGN SITE AND THIS IS A GOOD CASE, IF THE RUSSIANS
WERE GOING TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION AND YOU THOUGHT THEY
WERE GOING TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION THAT THEY SPENT
MONEY ACQUIRING AND PRESUMABLY, THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO SPEND SOME
SORT OF MONEY, THEY ARE BRIBING SOMEBODY ON THE INSIDER PAYING
HACKERS, ETC., WITHIN, YOU HAVE INFORMATION THAT HAS VALUE AND
YOU HAVE BROKEN A CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW.
YOU MAY LOOK AT ALL OF THAT AND SAY, WHEN YOU GO TO COURT, YOU
HAVE A GOOD CASE, BUT YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO LAY OUT
YOUR INTENT AND WHAT TRUMP KNEW AND DIDN'T KNOW, BUT WAY DID HE
HELP YOUR CASE BY RELEASING THE EMAILS AND ADMITTING HIMSELF
THAT YES, I WENT TO GO MEET WITH PEOPLE I THOUGHT WERE RUSSIAN
OFFICIALS TO GET STUFF THAT WOULD HELP OUR CAMPAIGN BUT
AS IT TURNS OUT, I COULDN'T FINISH THE CRIMINAL ACT.
THAT (HE DIDN'T SAY IN SO MANY WORDS, I JUST WANT TO BE
CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
IT TURNS OUT YOU DON'T NEED TO FINISH IT FRED TO BE A
CRIMINAL ACT.
I AM VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO A JUDGE SORTING THIS OUT.