FOLKS, YOU KNOW MY FIRST GUEST FROM "THE HURT LOCKER,"
"MILLION DOLLAR BABY," AND OF COURSE AS FALCON IN THE
"AVENGERS" SERIES.
HE NOW STARS IN THE NEW MOVIE "DETROIT."
PLEASE WELCOME ANTHONY MACKIE!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( BAND PLAYING )
>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
LOOKS GREAT IN HERE.
>> Stephen: THANKS VERY MUCH.
WE KEEP IT SPRUCED UP.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) YOU WERE SAYING HI TO JON AS YOU
CAME OVER HERE.
>> OH, YEAH.
>> Stephen: I KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME YOU WERE
HERE, YOU'RE FROM NEW ORLEANS, HIS FAMILY IS FROM NEW ORLEANS.
>> SOME 504 BOYS.
>> Stephen: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
WE TALKED ANT GETTING FRIED FISH AT GAS STATIONS NEXT TIME YOU'RE
HERE.
>> WHEN I'M NOT WORKING I'M FAT MACKEY, SO.
>> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT MUSCLE MACKEY BECAUSE ARE YOU
PRESENTLY IN FALCON MODE?
ARE YOU MARVEL JACKED NOW?
>> I'M IN BETWEEN AVENGERS 3 AND 4.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE READY, MAN.
NUTS ABOUT NUTS GUYS OUT HERE.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: "INFINITY WARS,
YOU FINISHED SHOOTING THAT.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: AND I UNDERSTAND YOU SPENT THE BETTER PART OF A
MONTH MAKING FUN OF INFINITY WAR CO-STAR TOM HOLLAND.
>> I MEAN, LOOK AT THAT GUY, REALLY?
>> Stephen: YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT HIS SQUEAKY VOICE?
>> IT'S A PROBLEM.
HE'S A WILDLY ANNOYING PERSON.
( LAUGHTER ) IT'S IMPRESSIVE.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S ANNOYING?
EVERYTHING.
HE'S SO LITTLE.
HE'S LIKE A SHIH TZU.
( LAUGHTER ) HE'S LIKE, ANTHONY!
TAKE OFF THE SPANDEX, MAN.
IT'S TOO MUCH.
>> Stephen: HOW DID HE TAKE IT?
>> HE'S ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT WHEN YOU TELL HIM TO SHUT UP, HE
SHUTS UP.
WHEN YOU LEAVE, HE'S BACK TALKING.
YOU LEAVE, HE'S TEXTING YOU -- HEY, WHERE DID YOU GO?
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: CAN YOU TELL ME
ABOUT WHAT THE FALCON DOES OR THE INFINITY WAR?
>> I KICK A LOT OF -- I CAN'T SAY THAT ON HERE, CAN I?
>> Stephen: SURE, YOU CAN SAY IT.
>> I KICK A LOT OF ASS, DAWG.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) THAT'S WHAT I DO.
>> Stephen: SURE.
"DETROIT" IS ABOUT AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED 50 YEARS AGO THIS YEAR.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHAT THE MOVIE IS ABOUT?
>> BASICALLY, THERE WAS A BAR IN NEW YORK -- I MEAN, IN "DETROIT"
CALLED "THE BLIND PIG" AND THE POLICE RAIDED THE BAR LOOKING
FOR AN INSPECTING PERSON IN THE BAR, HE WASN'T THERE AND ENDED
UP ARRESTING EVERYBODY AND IT SPARKED AN UPRISING IN 1967, YOU
KNOW, AMERICA WAS A BOILING POT, AND THAT KIND OF JUST TOOK OVER
AFTER THEY RAIDED THIS BAR AND JUST SPARKED WHAT WE KNEW AS THE
DETROIT RIOTS.
>> Stephen: HOW LONG DID THEY LAST AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE
CITY?
>> THE CITY WAS DECIMATED.
OVER 40 PEOPLE WERE INJURED AND KILLED.
OVER 40 PEOPLE DIED DURING THE RIOT.
ONCE IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, THE CITY WAS JUST LEVELED.
>> Stephen: SOME PEOPLE SAID DETROIT NEVER REALLY RECOVERED
FROM THIS EVENT, THAT IT'S STILL USING IN THE SHADOW OF 1967.
>> YES, BUT DETROIT IS THE GROWTH PLACE OF AMERICA, I FEEL.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) DETROIT IS TRULY THE ROSE THAT
GREW FROM CONCRETE.
IF YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN AMERICA, EVERY TIME
IT'S TURNED THAT CURVE AND HAD A GREAT INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, IT
STARTED IN DETROIT AND IN EVERY ASPECT OF OUR CULTURE.
SO IT MIGHT BE DOWN NOW, BUT IT'S GROWING AND SHOWING THAT WE
AS A COUNTRY ARE GETTING BETTER.
>> Stephen: WHO DO YOU PLAY IN THIS MOVIE?
>> I PLAY ROBERT GREEN, A VIETNAM VET THAT JUST GOT BACK
TO AMERICA AND LIKE MOST AFRICAN-AMERICAN SOLDIERS FROM
VIETNAM, THEY WERE VERY DISHEARTENED BY THE WAY THEY
WERE TREATED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND SPECIFICALLY THE MILITARY
WHEN THEY GOT BACK TO THE STATES.
HE WAS AT THE ALGIERS HOTEL WHEN THIS TAKES PLACE, JUST MAN
LOOKING FOR WORK.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE A CLIP.
JIM?
>> THIS RIGHT THERE, PARATROOPER EIGHT YEARS, TWO DEPLOYMENTS,
HONORABLE DISCHARGE.
>> Stephen: DISCHARGE.
THIS IS A FAKE.
NO, SIR.
THIS YOUR GIRL?
I JUST MET HER.
WHAT'S HIS NAME?
I DON'T KNOW.
HIS NAME IS KARL GREEN.
I WASN'T ASKING YOU, I WAS ASKING HER.
>> YOU JUST SAID WHAT'S HIS NAME.
>> YOU'RE LUCKY I HAVEN'T BROKEN YOUR (BLEEP) NECK YET.
>> ALL RIGHT, MAN, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
I'M NOT GOING TO CAUSE ANY TROUBLE, OKAY?
BUT I'M NOT GONNA LIE DOWN FOR YOU EITHER.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: BASED ON A TRUE
PERSON, THAT PERSON BASED ON A REAL CHARACTER?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
IN THE MOVIE, IT'S KARL GREEN.
IN REAL LIFE, HIS NAME WAS ROBERT GREEN, AND HE WAS THE
PERSON WHO CAME OUT AND SPOKE OUT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE
HOTEL.
HE WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO SPEAK UP AND TALK ABOUT THE INJUSTICE
THAT WAS GOING ON DURING THE UPRISING IN DETROIT.
>> Stephen: NOW, 50 YEARS LATER, THERE IS STILL A STRAINED
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE POLICE IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF CITIES.
>> YEP.
>> Stephen: MAKING THIS MOVIE, DID IT TEACH YOU ANYTHING?
DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT THE SITUATION TODAY?
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, THERE'S THIS GREAT THING THAT WE HAVE AS
A GENERATION THAT'S BEEN LOST CALLED COMMUNICATION.
IT'S REALLY AN ART FORM.
YOU KNOW, I WENT TO ACTING SCHOOL FOR FOUR YEARS AT
JUILLIARD TO LEARN HOW TO LISSEN AND I FEEL LIKE NOW SO MANY
YOUNG MEN WANT TO YELL AND TALK ABOUT THE POLICE AND THE POLICE
WANT TO YELL AND TALK ABOUT THE YOUNG MEN BUT NEITHER ONE IS
HEARING WHAT THE OTHER IS SAYING.
IF YOU JUST STOP AND LISTEN, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN AMAZING
FEAT FOR OUR GENERATION.
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: YOU SAID AGAIN YOU
WENT TO JUILLIARD.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, YOU STILL HAVE A LITTLE NEW ORLEANS
ACCENT.
>> LITTLE BIT.
>> Stephen: WHEN YOU FIRST GOT TO JUILLIARD, I ASSUME YOU HAD A
THICKER ONE.
>> OH, I STILL DO.
I'M JUST BEING POLITE SINCE WE'RE ON TV.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: IT'S A CLASSIC
ACTING EDUCATION THERE.
I'M SURE YOU DO THE CLASSICS THERE.
DID THEY TRY TO BREAK YOU OF YOUR ACCENT BEFORE YOU COULD DO
SHAKESPEARE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> OH, YEAH.
GOING TO JUILLIARD IS LIKE WORKING AT MCDONALD'S.
YOU ARE IN CLASS ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
>> Stephen: I'VE NEVER BEEN TO THAT McDONALD'S.
( LAUGHTER ) >> I MEAN, YOU KNOW, NOT TRYING
TO SAY WHERE I STARTED MY CAREER, BUT -- BUT, BUT, BUT,
BUT -- ( LAUGHTER )
BUT, YEAH, DID A LOT OF VOICE AND SPEECH AT JUILLIARD LEARNING
FROM THE GREAT EDITH SKINNER TECHNIQUE.
>> Stephen: WAS THERE A SHAKESPEARE MONOLOGUE THEY HAD
YOU DO TO BREAK YOU OF YOUR -- >> MY AWE DINGS MONOLOGUE WAS
EDMUND FROM KING LEAR, AND, IRONICALLY ENOUGH, DURING MY AWE
DINGS, I DIDN'T THINK I GOT IN BECAUSE THEY LAUGHED DURING THE
MUD -- MIDDLE OF MY AWE DINGS, I WAS SO BAD.
BUT IT WORKED OUT.
I GUESS I WAS JUST COUNTRY ENOUGH.
>> Stephen: A LITTLE SHAKESPEARE WITH A NEW ORLEANS
ACCENT?
>> OH, WOW.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ALL RIGHT.
THOU NATURE ARE MY GODDESS.
TO THY LAW MY SERVICES ARE BOUND.
WHEREVER SHOULD I STAND IN THE PLAGUE OF CUSTOM AND PERMIT THE
CURIOSITY OF NATIONS TO DEPRIVE ME FOR I AM SOME 12 OR 14 MOON
SHINES LAG OF A BROTHER.
WHEREFORE BEST.
WHERE ART THOU BASE?
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: I LOVE IT.
I LOVE IT.
>> THANKS, MAN.
>> STEPHEN: "DETROIT" OPENS NATIONWIDE TOMORROW.
ANTHONY MACKIE, EVERYBODY! WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK