Donald Trump Is Lying About Charlottesville, Says Witness | All In

>>> JOINING ME NOW, REVEREND TRACY OF JUSTICE AND WITNESS
MINISTRIES. SHE WAS ONE OF THE
COUNTERPROTESTERS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.
SHAW FOR JOINING ME, REVEREND BLACKMAN.
WE SPOKE FIRST FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN YOU WERE INSIDE OF A CHURCH ON
THE GROUNDS IN THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA.
DONALD TRUMP SAID THE NIGHT BEFORE THE SATURDAY MELEE, THERE
WERE GOOD PEOPLE WHO WERE QUIETLY MARCHING IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE. AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
WHITE NATIONALIST PROTESTERS. YOU WERE INSIDE THAT CHURCH.
DID YOU HEAR PEOPLE QUIETLY MARCHING?
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON, JOY.
NO. I SAY THESE WORDS THE UTMOST
SERIOUSNESS. I RARELY USE THESE WORDS.
BUT THEY APPLY HERE. DONALD TRUMP IS LYING.
AND HERE'S THE DEAL. HE SPENDS MORE TIME ON TWITTER
THAN HE SPENDS ANYWHERE ELSE. AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING FRIDAY
NIGHT WAS BEING LIVE STREAMED. I AM TELLING YOU THAT WE WERE IN
A CHURCH HAVING A WORSHIP SERVICE.
AT NO POINT IN THAT SERVICE WAS THERE EVEN A PROTEST.
IT WAS A MULTIFAITH WORSHIP SERVICE IN A STANDING ROOM ONLY
CAPACITY FILLED CHURCH WITH CHILDREN WITH MOTHERS, WITH
ELDERLY, WITH PEOPLE MY AGE, IN THE MIDDLE AND WITH YOUNG
PEOPLE. WE WERE WORSHIPPING.
AND CLOSE TO THE END OF OUR WORSHIP SERVICE, WE RECEIVED THE
MESSAGE THAT WE CANNOT LEAVE THE CHURCH BECAUSE A MOB WAS
APPROACHING THE CHURCH WITH TORCHES.
THEY WERE CHANTING BLOOD -- THEY WERE CHANTING, YOU WILL NOT
REPLACE US. THEY WERE CHANTING, JEWS WILL
NOT REPLACE US. THEY WERE CHANTING WHITE LIVES
MATTER. AND FOR OVER 30 MINUTES, WE WERE
NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE CHURCH. WHEN WE WERE FINALLY ALLOWED TO
LEAVE, WE COULD NOT GO OUT THE FRONT DOOR FOR FEAR THAT WE
WOULD BE ASSAULTED. WE WERE USHERED OUT THE SIDE
DOOR, AND THE BACK, INTO ALLEYS THIS IS AMERICA IN 2017.
AND I WOULD NOT HAVE BELIEVED IT, WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO DO AN
INTERVIEW. I'M FROM BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN KLAN RALLIES.
IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN KLAN PARADES.
BUT WHEN I TELL YOU THAT WE GOT IN A CAR TO LEAVE AND HAD TO
DRIVE THROUGH THIS MOB WHICH WAS THEN ON THE SIDEWALKS, AND NOT
IN THE STREET. WHEN I TELL THAT YOU I WEPT AS I
SAW PEOPLE WHO HAD EXCHANGED SHEETS FOR POLOS AND OXFORDS,
MANY OF THEM WERE WEARING THE MAKE AMERICA GREAT BASEBALL CAP,
HOLDING BASEBALL BATS IN ONE ARM AND TORCHES IN THE OTHER.
IT IS UNCONSCIONABLE THAT THIS PRESIDENT WOULD SUGGEST THAT
THAT WAS A DESERVED THING THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND.
>> AND AS CHILLING AS THAT IS, THE NEXT DAY THEN WAS PRETTY
VIOLENT. THIS WAS THE TIME THAT I WAS
RETALIATING TO TALK TO YOU DURING THE WEEKEND SHOW.
I WANT TO PLAY YOU WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE
PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE PROTESTING THE REMOVAL OF THE STATUE ON
SATURDAY. TAKE A LISTEN.
>> YOU HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE TO INNOCENTLY
PROTEST, AND LEGALLY PROTEST. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW.
THEY HAD A PERMIT. THE OTHER GROUP DIDN'T HAVE A
PERMIT. >> AND HIS EVENT WAS ABOUT
REDUCING THE PERMITTING. THAT'S IRONIC.
HE SAID THE PEOPLE THIS YOUR GROUP, THE COUNTERPROTESTING
GROUP WRRGS VIOLENT TOWARD ALT RIGHT PROTESTERS AND SET UPON
THEM WITH CLUBS. AND OTHER IMPLEMENTS.
>> AGAIN, DONALD TRUMP IS LYING. I AM TELLING THAT YOU YES, THEY
HAD A PERMIT TO THE PARK. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT TO
HARM PEOPLE. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT TO
THROW FULL BOTTLES OF WATER AND FULL CANS OF SODA AND SPLATTER
URINE ON PEOPLE WHO DID NOT AGREE WITH THEM.
THEIR PERMIT DID NOT COVER THAT, JOY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. TRUMP, HE'S HAD TIME NOW TO MAKE
THREE DIFFERENT RESPONSES TO THIS INCIDENT.
HAS HE EVEN TAKEN A MOMENT TO CALL THE FAMILY OF HEATHER?
AND OFFER CONDOLENCES ON BEHALF OF THIS NATION?
HAS HE TAKEN A MOMENT TO CONSIDER THE 20 PEOPLE WHO WERE
HURT AND OFFER THE SYMPATHY OF THIS NATION?
THIS IS NOT WILL A LEADER. THIS IS NOT A LEADER.
AND I AM ASHAMED OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE HIGHEST OFFICE.
>> AND LASTLY, REVEREND, DESCRIBE TO US, WHO WAS IN YOUR
GROUP. DONALD TRUMP HAS DESCRIBED YOUR
GROUP AND THE PROTESTERS, THE COUNTERPROTESTERS AS EQUIVALENT
TO THE NEO-NAZIS AND WHITE NATIONALISTS.
>> THAT'S VERY INTERESTING. THIS WAS A FAITH-BASED LED
GROUP. LARGELY CLERGY.
ALL PEOPLE OF FAITH. DIFFERENT FAITHS, JEWS, MUSLIMS,
CHRISTIANS. THERE INDEED WERE SOME PEOPLE
WHO DIDN'T PROFESS ANY FAITH IN THAT WAY BUT JUST HAD A MORAL
CONSCIOUSNESS THAT SAID TO THEM, IT IS NOT OKAY FOR PEOPLE TO
DESKROENLD A CITY. A CITY WHERE THE MAJORITY OF
RESIDENTS WERE. >> Reporter: THE DESCENDANTS OF
THE ENSLAVED. IT IS NOT OKAY FOR THEY WILL TO
DESCEND UPON THIS CITY AND TO WREAK TERROR.
WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE VIOLENT BECAUSE WE HAD THE
FLYERS, THE PROMOTIONAL FLYERS, THAT THESE GROUP THAT'S ALREADY
SENT OUT. THERE WERE FLYERS CALLING FOR A
RACE WAR. FLYERS SAYING WE'RE COMING TO
TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
AND THIS PRESIDENT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT REVISING HISTORY?
READ SOME HISTORY. BLACK PEOPLE BUILT THIS COUNTRY.
>> AND WE KNOW THERE WERE SOME BLACK LIVES MATTER, IN YOUR VIEW
AS A WITNESS TO THESE EVENTS, WERE THE ANTI-FASCIST GROUPS
PERPETRATING THE VIOLENCE OR WERE THEY THE VICTIMS OF THE
VIOLENCE? >> NO, THEY WERE NOT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE WERE SOME CLERGY STANDING ON THE
STEPS TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE PARK.
THEY WERE NOT IN THE PARK. THEY WERE AT THE ENTRANCE
SINGING THIS LITTLE LIGHT OF MINE.
THE NEO-NAZIS BURST THROUGH WITH SHIELDS AND BEGAN TO BEAT THEM
AND TRAMPLE THEY WILL. THE ONES DONALD TRUMP IS CALLING
TERRORISTS WERE THERE TO SAVE THEIR LIVES BECAUSE THE POLICE
WERE STANDING DOWN. THEY SAVED THEIR LIVES.
>> WOW, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
YOU WERE A WITNESS TO

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