GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN FROM OUR NBC NEWS HEADQUARTERS HERE IN
NEW YORK. DAY 195 OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION AND WHILE IT'S EARLY YET IN 11H HOUR TERMS, OUR
TWO LEAD STORIES THUS FAR TONIGHT HAVE TO DO WITH THE NEW
WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF, GENERAL JOHN KELLEY, U.S. MARINE
CORPS RETIRED, AND THE NORMALIZING IMPACT HE IS ALREADY
AN APPARENT HAVING IN A WEST WING THAT HAS FUNCTIONED OF LATE
MORE LIKE THE WILD WEST. FIRST TONIGHT, A REPORT FROM THE
"ASSOCIATED PRESS" THAT SAYS KELLY HAS REACHED OUT TO A
CABINET MEMBER WHO WAS RECENTLY PUBLICLY HUMILIATED BY THE
PRESIDENT. TO TELL HIM THAT HE'S SAFE.
JONATHAN LA MERE BROKE THE STORY.
JONATHAN IS STANDING BY TO TALK TO US.
IT GOES LIKE THERE. "KELLY IN ONE OF HIS FIRST ACTS
IN HIS NEW POST CALLED ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS TO AN SURE
HIM THAT HIS POSITION WAS SAFE DESPITE THE RECENT ONSLAUGHT OF
CRITICISM HE HAS TAKEN EVERYONE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP."
THE SECOND REPORT IS ABOUT KELLY CRACKING DOWN ON THE FLOW OF
INFORMATION TO THE PRESIDENT. QUOTING HERE, KELLY HAS TOLD
AIDES ANYONE BRIEFING THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO SHOW HIM THE
INFORMATION FIRST. THE TRUMP WEST WING TRADITION OF
AIDES DROPPING OFF ARTICLES ON THE PRESIDENT'S DESK AND THEN
WAITING FOR HIM TO REACT WITH A SCREAMING PHONE CALL OR HASTILY
SCHEDULED STAFF MEETING MUST STOP.
THE NON-KELLY NEWS AT THE WHITE HOUSE WAS MADE IN THE BRIEFING
ROOM TODAY. A NEW IMMIGRATION PLAN WIDELY
CONSIDERED TO HAVE NO FUTURE IN CONGRESS THAT WOULD CUT MY
ONE-HALF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE ALLOW IN LEGALLY AND WOMAN
CREATE A MERIT-BASED SYSTEM OF ENTRY AWARDING POINTS FOR THINGS
LIKE AGE AND JOB SKILL AND ABILITY TO SPEAK ENGLISH AND IN
ANNOUNCING THIS PLAN, A WHITE HOUSE STAFFER BECAME A BIGGER
STORY THAN THE PLAN ITSELF. WE'RE ABOUT TO SHOW YOU THE
SENIOR ADVISER TO THE PRESIDENT STEVEN MILLER.
THIS EXCHANGE BEGINS AFTER THE "NEW YORK TIMES" GLENN TRUSH
ASKED MILLER FOR STATS TO BACK UP THIS NEW APPROACH.
>> I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR COMMON SENSE.
IF I COULD JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
>> STATISTICS OR NOT. >> I NAMED THE STUDIES.
GLENN. >> TELL ME --
>> I NAMED THE STUDIES. >> I ASKED YOU FOR STATISTICS.
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY. >> CARVE OUT IN THE BILL THAT
SAYS "THE NEW YORK TIMES" HIRE ALL IT THE LOW SKILL LESS PAID
WORKERS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AND SEE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT LOW WAGE
SUBSTITUTION. THIS IS A REALITY HAPPENING IN
OUR COUNTRY. I WANT TO BE SERIOUS, JIM.
DO YOU REALLY NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GREEN CARD
POLICY AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION? YOU REALLY DON'T THAT.
>> MY FATHER IS A CUBAN IMMIGRANT.
HE CAME TO THIS COUNTRY IN 1962 AND OBTAINED A GREEN CARD.
THIS WHOLE NOTION THEY HAVE TO LEARN ENGLISH BEFORE THEY GET TO
THE UNITED STATES ARE WE JUST GOING TO BRING IN PEOPLE FROM
GREAT BRITAIN AND AUSTRALIA. >> I CAN HONESTLY SAY, I AM
SHOCKED AT YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU THINK THAT ONLY PEOPLE FROM
GREAT BRITAIN AND AUSTRALIA WOULD KNOW ENGLISH.
IT REVEALS YOUR COSMOPOLITAN BIAS TO A SHOCKING DEGREE THAT
IN YOUR MIND -- THIS IS AN AMAZING -- THIS IS AN AMAZING
MOMENT. THIS ISMACYING MOMENT YOU THINK
ONLY PEOPLE FROM GREAT BRITAIN OR AUSTRALIA CAN SPEAK ENGLISH
IS SO INSULTING TO MILLIONS OF HARD WORKING IMMIGRANTS FROM ALL
OVER THE WORLD. >> THAT'S ABOUT THE WAY IT WENT.
IF MR. MILLER LOOKS FAMILIAR, THIS IS HIS SECOND OVERHEATED ON
CAMERA PERFORMANCE. HIS FIRST WAS BACK IN FEBRUARY
ASSERTING HIS BOSS'S UNQUESTIONED POWERS.
>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU AND YOUR STAFF THERE THAT YOU'RE IN
CONTROL OF EVENTS AT THE WHITE HOUSE?
>> I THINK TO SAY THAT WE'RE IN CONTROL WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL
UNDERSTATEMENT. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO HAS DONE
MORE IN THREE WEEKS THAN PRESIDENTS HAVE DONE IN AN
ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION. I'M PREPARED TO REPEAT IT AND
SAY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS CORRECT 100%.
THE END RESULT OF THIS THOUGH IS THAT OUR OPPONENTS, THE MEDIA
AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL SOON SEE AS WE BEGIN TO TAKE FURTHER
ACTIONS THAT THE POWERS OF THE PRESIDENT TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY
ARE VERY SUBSTANTIAL AND WILL NOT BE QUESTIONED.
>> MORE ON MR. MILLER LATER. AND ABOUT MR. MILLER'S BOSS,
LET'S SWITCH TO NUMBERS. DONALD TRUMP'S APPROVAL RATING
HIT A NEW LOW ACCORDING TO NEW POLLING BY QUINNIPIAC.
IT FOUND 33% OF AMERICANS NOW APPROVE OF THE JOB HE'S DOING.
61% DISAPPROVE. ON THE UPSIDE FIRST, 55% OF
AMERICANS THINK TRUMP IS INTELLIGENT.
57% THINK HE'S A STRONG PERSON. BUT THEN THERE'S THIS AS THEY
SAY. 54% OF RESPONDENTS ARE
EMBARRASSED HE'S THE PRESIDENT. 59% SAY HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT
AVERAGE AMERICANS. 62% SAY HE'S NOT HONEST.
63% SAY HE DOESN'T SHARE THEIR VALUES.
ANOTHER 63% SAY HE DOES NOT HAVE GOOD LEADERSHIP SKILLS.
AND 71% SAY HE IS NOT LEVEL HEADED.
THERE'S MORE. SEVEN IN TEN AMERICANS SAY THE
PRESIDENT SHOULD STOP TWEETING. MOST AMERICANS BELIEVE THE
PRESIDENT HAS TRIED TO EITHER DERAIL OR OBSTRUCT THE RUSSIA
INVESTIGATION. MOST AMERICANS BUT NOT MOST
REPUBLICANS BELIEVE RUSSIA HACKED OUR ELECTION.
ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING. LET'S NOT FORGET, AGAINST THE
VERY REAL WORLD BACKDROP OF NORTH KOREA.
TESTING INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES AND AT THE
SAME TIME TESTING IT THE PATIENCE OF THE U.S. AND ITS
NEIGHBORS. THE SITUATION COULD TURN
CATACLYSMIC AT ANY TIME. NEXT WE WANT YOU TO HEAR THE
PRESIDENT'S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, GENERAL H.R. McMASTER
IN AN INTERVIEW HE CONDUCTED WITH OUR OWN HUGH HEWITT.
McMASTER IS TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A U.S. MILITARY
CONFRONTATION WITH NORTH KOREA. WE'RE GOING TO PLAY THIS AS IT
AIRED ON THIS NETWORK IN THE 4:00 HOUR THIS AFTERNOON
INCLUDING THE REACTION TO IT IN REALTIME IN THE MOMENT BY OUR
4:00 P.M. HOST NICOLLE WALLACE WHO WAS COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR
IN THE BUSH 43 WHITE HOUSE. >> LOOK AT THE NATURE THAT HAVE
REGIME IF THEY HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAT CAN THREATEN THE
UNITED STATES. IT'S INTOLERABLE FROM THE
PRESIDENT'S PERSPECTIVE. OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE
ALL OPTIONS TO DO THAT. AND THAT INCLUDES A MILITARY
OPTION. WOULD WE LIKE TO RESOLVE IT SORT
OF WHAT WOULD BE A VERY COSTLY WAR IN TERMS OF THE SUFFERING OF
MAINLY THE SOUTH KOREAN PEOPLE, THE ABILITY OF THAT NORTH KOREAN
REGIME TO HOLD THE SOUTH HOSTAGE TO CONVENTIONAL FIRES
CAPABILITY, ARTILLERY AND SO FORTH, SEOUL BEING SO CLOSE,
WE'RE COGNIZANT OF ALL OF THAT. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS EVERYTHING
WE CAN TO PRESSURE THIS REGIME TO PRESSURE KIM JONG-UN AND
THOSE AROUND HIM SUCH THAT THEY CONCLUDE IT IS IN THEIR
INTERESTS TO DENUCLEARIZE. >> ELI STOKOLS, I'M GOING TO SAY
SOMETHING THAT MAY BE TOO PROVOCATIVE FOR SORT OF THE
TYPES WE'RE IN, BUT LAST TIME I HEARD A WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISER TALK ABOUT A GATHERING THREAT LIKE THAT IN
PUBLIC WAS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE THREAT POSED BY IRAQ
WHEN WE THOUGHT THEY POSSESSED WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
THAT'S SHOCKING LANGUAGE FROM A SITTING NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISER. >> THAT WAS NICOLLE WALLACE IN
THIS VERY STUDIO IN THE 4:00 P.M. HOUR TODAY.
WITH THAT, LET'S BRING IN TONIGHT'S STARTING PANEL, WHITE
HOUSE REPORTER FOR THE "ASSOCIATED PRESS," AT
FOREMENTIONED JONATHAN LA MERE WHO BROKE THAT STORY TONIGHT
ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE AFOREMENTIONED WHITE HOUSE
REPORTER FOR "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" AND MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR
ELI STOKALS AND SHANNON PETTY PIECE RETURNS TO OUR BROADCAST.
OKAY, MR. LA MERE, SINCE YOU GAVE US OUR LEAD STORY TONIGHT,
WE ENDEAVOR AROUND HERE TO GIVE HIGH MARKS WHEN AND WHERE
THEY'RE DESERVED. LAST NIGHT'S GUESTS THOUGHT THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S STATE CRAFT ON NORTH KOREA WAS PITCH
PERFECT. TODAY, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT
THIS AS A NORMALIZING FACTOR. THIS IS WHAT WHITE HOUSE CHIEF
OF STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO DO, MAKE EVERYTHING SMOOTH OUT.
IN THIS CASE, REASSURING A CABINET MEMBER THAT DESPITE A
PUBLIC HUMILIATION FROM THE BOSS HE'S GOING TO BE OKAY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE SHOULD START BY TAKING A STEP
BACK AND RECOGNIZE HOW UNPRECEDENTED THIS WAS FOR A
PRESIDENT TO CRITICIZE A SITTING MEMBER OF HIS CABINET.
>> THERE IS THAT. >> REPEATEDLY.
ON A DAILY BASIS. HE CALLED HIM BELEAGUERED, WEAK,
HE SUGGESTED IF HE COULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN, HE WOULDN'T
OFFER HIM THE JOB BECAUSE HE RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THE
INVESTIGATION.
THAT'S ALL PUBLICLY. PRIVATELY, HE TOLD AIDES HE
MUSED ABOUT FIRING HIM. OVER THE WEEKEND, WE HAVE
REPORTED IN THE "ASSOCIATED PRESS" TONIGHT THAT THE NEW
CHIEF OF STAFF REACHED OUT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, SUGGESTED
WHILE THE PRESIDENT IS STILL MIFFED ABOUT SOME OF THIS IT,
STILL PERHAPS THINKS THAT YOU WERE NOT AS LOYAL AS YOU SHOULD
HAVE BEEN, YOUR JOB IS SAFE, THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR YOU
TO RESIGN. PRESIDENT IS NOT LOOKING TO FIRE
YOU. ALSO, WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE,
THERE IS A GROWING RECOGNITION THAT THE ATTACKS ON THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL WERE POLITICALLY RISKY. JEFF SESSIONS IS STILLLL VERY
POPULAR AMONG THE CONSERVATIVE BASE THAT HELPED ELECT THIS
PRESIDENT. WE SAW LAST WEEK A NUMBER OF
SENATORS RUSH TO HIS DEFENSE. A NUMBER OF INFLUENTIAL MEMBERS
OF THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA RUSHED TO HIS DEFENSE.
>> HE'S BEEN AN ACTIVIST CABINET MEMBER.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE HE
IS IN FACT THE CABINET MEMBER WHO'S BEEN MOST SUCCESSFUL IN
TERMS OF DELIVERING ON TRUMP CAMPAIGN PROMISES.
THIS IS GENERAL KELLY TAKING A STEP TO TRY TO TAKE THE
TEMPERATURE DOWN TO TRY TO SAY, LOOK, LET'S TRY TO MOVE BEYOND
THIS AND GET BACK TO WORK. >> NOW TO ELI STOKOLS WHO EWE
NOTE HAS COSMOPOLITAN TENDENCIES.
LET'S BE FAIR. >> THANK YOU, BRIAN.
>> ABOUT MR. MILLER AND ABOUT THE NEW CHIEF OF STAFF KELLY,
HOW IS KELLY LIKELY TO VIEW THAT APPEARANCE IN THE BRIEFING ROOM
TODAY AS AS OPPOSED TO HOW THE BOSS IS LIKELY TO VIEW THAT
APPEARANCE? >> THAT'S THE QUESTION.
I THINK WHAT HE WAS DOING OUT THERE WAS SORT OF MOLLIFYING
THAT BASE. THE BREITBART READER WHO LOOKS
AS THIS AND SEES THE ATTACKS ON SESSIONS AND SAYS WE LIKE THAT
GUY. HERE HAD HE ARE AGAIN OUT IN THE
OPEN PLAYING THE WHITE IDENTITY POLITICS CARD AS THEY DID
THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN. IT'S PROBABLY A WIN FOR THEIR
BASE. THE PRESIDENT PROBABLY LIKES THE
COMBATIVENESS WHEN HE SITS BACK THERE AND SEES STEVEN MILLER
GOING AT MEMBERS OF THE PRESS, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
HE PROBE LIKES THAT, BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM WHAT THE NEW CHIEF OF
STAFF IS TRYING TO DO, JOHN KELLEY'S REACHING OUT TO
DEMOCRATIC LEADERS, HE'S TRYING TO SORT OF PASSCY PHI, COOL
TENSIONS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STABILIZE THIS
ADMINISTRATION. HE REALIZES YOU HAVE TO DO MORE
IF YOU WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL THAN JUST PLEASE YOUR OWN BASE
THAN JUST RILE UP YOUR BASE AND HARDEN DIVISIONS.
I DON'T THINK STEVEN MILLER DID THAT.
I THINK HE COPIED TO STORE THE OF INFLAME PASSIONS, EXCITE THE
PRESIDENT, EXCITE THE BASE AND THEY GOT TO GET BEYOND JUST
DOING THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE
ADMINISTRATION. TRYING TO SORT OF EASE TENSIONS
IS SMART BUT I THINK ANYBODY WHO IS SITTING THERE AND SAYING
OKAY, EVERYTHING'S FIXED, NEW SHERIFF'S IN TOWN.
DONALD TRUMP IS WHO DONALD TRUMP IS, RIGHT?
AND JUST BECAUSE KELLY SAYS SOMETHING TO SESSIONS DOESN'T
MEAN THAT DONALD TRUMP WON'T GET AGITATE AND LASH OUT AGAIN.
JUST BECAUSE MIKE PENCE IS GOING AROUND EUROPE REASSURING ALLIES
WE STAND WITH THEM AND WILL DEFEND THEM AGAINST RUSSIA.
>> LOOKING LIKE A PRESIDENT. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY CAN
TAKE THAT COMPLETELY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU HAVE
A VERY VOLATILE COMMANDER IN CHIEF IN THAT OVAL OFFICE.
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO.
MIKE PENCE CAN SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS IN EUROPE AND JOHN KELLEY
AND SAY AND ACT AND DO THINGS A NORMAL CHIEF OF STAFF WOULD DO
TO STABILIZE THAT WEST WING. BUT AGAIN, THIS ALL COMES DOWN
TO DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ABILITY TO REIN IN THOSE IMPULSES.
>> SHANNON, THEN WE HAVE THE MATTER OF OUR LEAD STORIES THERE
PRECEDING YOU OF THESE NUMBERS, THESE POLL NUMBERS.
YOU'LL NOTE AS YOU HAVE NOTED THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T TALK
ABOUT THE POLLS ANYMORE. THEY WERE A STAPLE OF HIS RALLY
SPEECHES DURING THE CAMPAIGN. THE QUESTION TO YOU IS, DO YOU
THINK THESE NUMBERS ARE BAKED INTO THE CAKE TO MIX MY
METAPHORS THAT HE IS GOING TO BE UNDERWATER BUT THIS IS ABOUT
DAMAGE CONTROL AND MOVING FORWARD AND TRYING TO COBBLE
TOGETHER SOME SEMBLANCE OF AN AGENDA?
>> AND, OF COURSE, POLL NUMBERS DON'T REALLY NECESSARILY MATTER
AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE ELECTION IS YOU KNOW ABOUT A
YEAR, 3 1/2 YEARS AWAY. SO YOU CAN MAKE THE CASE, YOU
KNOW, WHAT DO THESE POLLING NUMBERS MATTER RIGHT NOW.
BUT THEY DO MATTER TO SOMEONE WHOSE ELECTION IS NOT 3 1/2
YEARS AWAY AND THAT'S MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, PARTICULARLY THE
NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE WHO ARE UP FOR
RE-ELECTION IN 2018 AND EVERY MEMBER IN THE HOUSE WHO IS UP
FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2018. SO WHILE THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION MAY BE ABLE TO SAY WE'LL DO A BASE PLAY, WHO
CARES ABOUT POLLS AT THIS POINT, THEY DESPERATELY NEED TO GET
CONGRESS ON THEIR SIDE. AT THIS POINT, THE CONGRESS IS
ALMOST IN MUTINY. THE SENATE WON'T COME TALK TO
THEM. THEY WANT THE SENATE TO TALK
ABOUT HEALTH CARE. McCONNELL IS SAYING NO, MOVING
ON. THEY UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED THIS
RUSSIA SANCTIONS BILL THAT THE WHITE HOUSE LOBBIED AGAINST.
THEY DON'T HAVE CONGRESS ON THEIR SIDE AND THEY FORGET
THEY'RE ONE OF MULTIPLE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT HERE.
THEY NEED A CONGRESS TO GET THROUGH THIS LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
WHEN I SEE THESE POLL NUMBERS I KNOW THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE
HOUSE AND THOSE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE WHO THE ARE UP FOR
RE-ELECTION ARE SEEING THESE TWO AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE A VERY
QUICK CALCULATION, DO I DISTANCE MYSELF, HOW FAR AT THIS POINT I
MEAN NOT DO I DISTANCE MYSELF FROM THE PRESIDENT BUT HOW FAR
DO I DISTANCE MYSELF FROM THEM WHEN MY RE-ELECTION IS COMING
AROUND IN REALLY ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.
>> JONATHAN, ALL OF THIS IS SO NEW, ALL THE BEHAVIOR WE'RE
SEEING FROM THE PODIUM AND LOOKING AT THE PODIUM, JIM
ACOSTA OVER AT CNN, I'M NOT SURE PEOPLE COULD HEAR THE POINT HE
WAS MAKING. HE IS THE SON OF A MAN WHO CAME
HERE NOT SPEAKING A WORD OF ENGLISH, JUST PRE-CASTRO CUBA.
HE FEELS THIS ISSUE INNATELY. DO YOU THINK THE APPEARANCE OF
MR. MILLER BEFORE THE USUAL DAILY BRIEFING WAS INTENDED TO
BE A KIND OF SHINY OBJECT DISTRACTION GIVEN THE FACT THAT
NO ONE GIVES THIS IMMIGRATION MEASURE ANY FUTURE AT ALL ON THE
HILL? >> IT SEEMS THAT WAY.
THIS IS YET ANOTHER PIVOT TO THE BASE BY THIS ADMINISTRATION.
THERE'S ENOUGH OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL IN THE SENATE, THIS
SEEMS LIKE IT HAS LITTLE CHANCE OF PASSING.
IT PUTS STEVEN MILLER UP TODAY. HE CALLS IT HISTORIC
LEGISLATION, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ANY PRESIDENT HAS DONE ON
IMMIGRATION IN DECADES EVEN THOUGH HE RECOGNIZES IT'S
PROBABLY DOA WHEN IT GOES TO THE SENATE.
HE EVEN LECTURES JIM ACOSTA AS TO WHEN THE FAMOUS POEM ON THE
STATUE OF LIBERTY WAS INSCRIBED. THAT HE WASN'T THERE INITIALLY.
THAT WAS ADDED LATER. THIS IS ABOUT POLITICS AND ABOUT
THE PRESIDENT TRYING TO SCORE POINTS WITH HIS BASE AND NOT
JUST ON IMMIGRATION WHICH IS AN ISSUE HE HAS YET TO DO MUCH ON
AT THIS POINT IN HIS TERM BUT ALSO CONTINUING HIS FIGHT WITH
THE MEDIA. WHO ARE THE TWO REPORTERS THAT
HE PICKED FIGHTS WITH TODAY THAT HE HAD VERBAL CLASHES WITH?
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND CNN. THIS IS AGAIN WHO THE PRESIDENT
WANTS TO HIT. HE WOULD MUCH PREFER TO BE
HAVING THAT CONVERSATION THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS ABOUT POLICY.
>> WE LOOKED AT A WORLD ATLAS AND FOUND NO SIGN OF GREAT
BRITAIN. BUT MORE ON THAT LATER.
ELI, ARE YOU SURPRISED AT McMASTER?
THIS INTERVIEW HE'S GIVEN HUGH HEWITT IS REALLY WATCHABLE AND
VERY INTERESTING. IT WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND.
HE HAS BEEN RUMORED TO BE ON THE OUTS NOW AND AGAIN.
>> YEAH, HE'S BEEN FRUSTRATED AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
TENSIONS INTERNALLY WHAT TO DO WITH THE AFGHANISTAN POLICY, MOT
TO MENTION NORTH KOREA LOOKING AT A MENU OF OPTIONS NONE OF
WHICH LOOK PAT LATABLE. THERE'S A LOT OF TENSION WITHIN
THE NSC. THERE'S BEEN FOLKS ON THE NSC
WHO WERE THERE AS SORT OF FLYNN
DISCIPLES WHO THEY HAVE STARTED TO CLEAN OUT.
YOU NEVER KNOW IN HE'S GOING TO GET FIRM CONTROL OF THE NSC OR
WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE PEOPLE IN THERE WHO CONTINUE TO
KEEP THE NSC GRIDLOCKED WHAT TO DO ON THESE SERIOUS THINGS.
YOU CAN HEAR IN THAT INTERVIEW THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION
WITH NORTH KOREA. WE'VE YET TO HEAR REALLY THE
PRESIDENT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION SPEAK WITH THE
SAME LEVEL OF GRAVITY ABOUT THAT THREAT.
>> SHANNON, WHEN YOU'RE DONALD TRUMP AND YOU NEED TO FEEL THE
LOVE, YOU GO BACK TO THE BASE WHICH FOR HIM TOMORROW MEANS A
SECOND TRIP IN RAPID SUCCESSION TO WEST VIRGINIA WHICH MEANS FOR
US 24 HOURS FROM NOW, WE WILL LIKELY BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE
HAD TO SAY TO A LATHERED UP CROWD IN THE BASE TOMORROW
NIGHT. >> THE PEOPLE AROUND THE
PRESIDENT KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET HIM BACK ON HIS FOOTING GET
HIM TO A RALLY. HE LOVES DOING THESE RALLIES.
HE IS GOOD IN THESE RALLIES. HE'S IN HIS COMFORT ZONE.
IT GETS HIM FEELING MORE CONFIDENT AND THEY WANTED TO DO
MORE OF THESE AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING
MORE OF THESE. NOW, TO MY POINT ABOUT 2018, AS
WELL TOO, GETTING INTO NEXT YEAR, I KNOW THAT SEEMS LIKE A
WAYS OFF BUT GETTING INTO NEXT YEAR, 2018 TOO, I THINK WE'LL
SEE HIM DOING MORE OF THESE, AS WELL OUT FOR THE MEMBERS IN THE
DISTRICT THATS THAT ARE POPULAR HE CAN HELP WITH AND OTHER
MEMBERS SAYING NO, DON'T COME TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO A RALLY.
HE'S NOT GOING TO BE DOING A RALLY IN THE SUBURBS OF
PHILADELPHIA FOR ANY MEMBERS UP FOR RE-ELECTION.
IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING, THE PAST FEW RALLIES HAVE BEEN QUITE
INTERESTING. I GUESS INTERESTING IS A WORD I
KEEP REPEATING. THE BOY SCOUTS ONE WAS
INTERESTING AND YOUNGSTOWN, HE WAS FIRED UP.
WE'LL BE WATCHING TOMORROW NIGHT.
>> WHILE IN WEST VIRGINIA, IT WILL BE A NONBOY SCOUT CROWD.
OUR GREAT