Inside Donald Trump’s Evolution On Race: ‘We Saw A New Donald’ | The Beat With Ari Melber

DISCUSSION >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> RANDALL, I WANT TO START WITH
YOU. YOU HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN OUT
ABOUT THIS EVOLUTION WHAT MORE DID YOU LEARN ABOUT
DONALD TRUMP? >> WHAT I LEARNED WAS DONALD
PIVOTED FROM BEING AN ENTREPRENEUR AND PRIMARILY A
DEMOCRAT, WHERE IT SERVED HIM, WHEN HIS AGENDA BECAME WANTING
TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY, HE MADE A COMPLETE SHIFT.
WE SAW HIS STANCE ON IMMIGRATION.
WE SAW HIS STANCE ON MUSLIMS. WE SAW HIM BEGIN TALKING ABOUT
THE LAW. AND ALL OF THE APPARENTLY GOOD
WILL THAT HE HAD GARNERED FROM THE APPRENTICE WAS COMPLETELY
JETSONED BECAUSE IT NO LONGER SERVED HIS AGENDA.
WHEN THE AGENDA GAME PRESIDENCY, THE QUESTION BECAME FOR DONALD,
WHAT WILL GIVE ME THE PATH TO GET THERE?
AND CLEARLY, ISSUES THAT AFFECT AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE AT THE
BOTTOM OF THE LIST. AND ISSUES THAT AFFECTED HIS
BASE ROSE TO THE TOP. AND WE SAW A NEW DONALD AS A
POLITICIAN. >> DO YOU THINK HE TRIED TO USE
YOU? >> I DON'T THINK HE TRIED TO USE
ME. THERE ARE TIMES HE'S TRIED
REFERENCE ME AS IF I'M A CLAIM, A DEFENSE AGAINST RACIST CLAIMS.
I'VE HEARD HIM SAY, HOW COULD HE BE A RACIST SINCE HE HIRED ME?
THAT'S LIKE SAYING YOU HAVE A BLACK FRIEND SO HOW COULD YOU BE
A RACIST? >> AIMY?
>> I'M SHOCKED IN 2010, 27% LOOKED AT HIM FAVORABLY.
I'M FROM NEW YORK. DONALD TRUMP IS A LONG TIME
RACIST. IN THE 1970s, THEY HAD ON FILE A
CLAIM FOR RENTAL RACIST POLICY WHEN'S HE WAS ENCOURAGING RENTAL
AGENTS TO SCREEN LEASES BY RACES AND TO DISCOURAGE BLACK PEOPLE
FROM RENTING AND TO TURN BLACK PEOPLE AWAY.
AND THEN THERE WAS THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE INCIDENT IN 1989 IN
WHICH FIVE LATINO AND BLACK MEN WERE HE ACCUSED OF RAPING AND
MURDERING A WHITE WOMAN IN CENTRAL PARK.
AND EVEN AFTER -- AND THEN WHEN THAT HAPPENED, DONALD TRUMP
LITERALLY TOOK OUT FOUR FULL PAGE ADS IN ALL THE DAILY
NEWSPAPERS IN NEW YORK BASICALLY ASKING FOR THE DEATH PENALTY FOR
THESE YOUNG MEN. AND EVEN AFTER THEY WERE
EXONERATED, BASED ON DNA EVIDENCE AND THE CONFESSION OF A
CONVICTED SERIAL RAPIST, HE NEVER APOLOGIZED.
HE EVEN DOUBLED DOWN. SO I'M BAFFLED BY THE 27%
NUMBER. >> SPEAK TO AMY'S POINT.
TRUMP ALLIES AND DEFENDERS SAY, IT IS NOT ABOUT RACE FOR HIM.
IT WAS ABOUT LAW AND ORDER ON THOSE ISSUES.
AND IF IT IS IN HIS HEART, IT WAS ABOUT THE BASE.
>> THE USE OF THE TERM BIRTHER, LAW AND ORDER, THESE ARE ALL
COLD WORDS THAT MEAN SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT TO PEOPLE.
THE BIRTHER MOVEMENT WAS A DESPICABLE SMEAR CAMPAIGN.
IT WAS AN EFFORT TO POINT OUT AND REMIND PEOPLE THAT
QUOTE/UNQUOTE, BARACK OBAMA IS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
BUT TO DO IT IN THIS WAY THAT WASN'T DIRECT, BUT PEOPLE SAW
THROUGH IT. PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD IT.
NOT ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICANS BUT MANY SAW IT FOR WHAT IT WAS.
THAT WAS AN UNFOUNDED CHARGE. IT WAS HE IS THE END OF FAKE
NEWS. AND THAT IS THE CASE.
WHERE WE ARE TODAY, IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT
THOSE STATEMENTS AND THE STATEMENTS OF DIVISION HAVE
GIVEN, IF YOU WILL, SOME MOMENTUM TO THESE POLICIES LIKE
THE EFFORT TO RAID IMMIGRATION RAIDS, CUTTING CIVIL RIGHTS
OFFICES AT VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, A BOGUS, IF YOU WILL, VOTER
FRAUD COMMISSION. AND THE POLICY THAT'S ENABLED.
I'LL SAY THIS. THERE'S A RESISTANCE AND A
PUSHBACK. AND IT HAS MOMENTUM TO IT.
>> IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND MANY OF THESE POLICIES ARE WRONG
AND OUT OF SYNC. >> BRIEFLY, DO YOU THINK THE
PRESIDENT CAN REBUILD THE DIALOGUE WITH BLACK AMERICA
UNLESS OR UNTIL HE APOLOGIZES FOR THE BIRTHERISM?
>> I THINK IT WILL TAKE LONG FOR HIM TO DO IT.
HE WOULD HAVE TO SEND A SIGNAL. WHETHER HE SENDS IT BY AN
APOLOGY. IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN WORDS.
THIS IS NOT JUST A STAGE. WE LOOK AT NOT TONIGHT WORDS OF
A LEADER, WE LOOK AT THE ACTIONS OF A LEADER.
SO SHUTTING DOWN THE VOTER INTEGRITY/FRAUD COMMISSION,
WHICH IS A BOGUS COMMISSION, NOT RETREATING ON MASS
INCARCERATION, CHANGING POLICIES TO ME WOULD BE FAR MORE
IMPORTANT THAN ANY SPECIFIC WORDS OR ANY STAGE CRAFT OF AN
APOLOGY. >> DO YOU THINK VOTER TURNOUT
WILL BE UP? >> NO.
CERTAINLY. I THINK IT WILL BE VERY
CHALLENGING FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COM

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