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INCOMPETENCE NOTHING GETTING DONE AND THUS YOU HAVE 33.
>> JEREMY PETERS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT PRYING TO
KEEP HIS BASE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO TRY TO PLAY
TO OUR HARD CORE, NATIONALIST TRUMPIST BASE AND EVERYBODY ELSE
BE DAMNED. TEASE WHAT GETS YOU TO 36%.
NOW IT'S GETTING TO 33%. DOES HE KEEP DOING THE SAME
THING THAT STEVE BANNON HAS BEEN TELLING HIM TO DO, WHICH IS TO
BASICALLY CHAIN HIM TO HISTORICALLY LOW APPROVAL
RATINGS? >> OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS WHAT
YOU'VE SEEN IS PART OF THAT STRATEGY THAT YOU'VE JUST
DESCRIBED IS GOING HARD AT THE BASE.
THIS EXPLAINS WHY WE'VE SEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCE ACTIONS
AGAINST LATINO GANGS, IT'S WHY WE'VE SEEN HIS PRONOUNCEMENT
THAT THE UNITED STATES SHOULD CUT IMMIGRATION IN HALF.
HAVING IN THE 70s IN AN APPROVAL RATING AMONG REPUBLICANS IS NOT
GREAT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AIDES HAVE RAISED WITH HIM SAYING THIS
NEEDS TO BE A LOT HIGHER. AS JOHN PEDORA WAS SAYING, HE'S
BEEN UNABLE TO RECOVER SINCE FIRING JAMES COMEY.
THE BRIGHT SPOT FOR SOME REPUBLICANS WHEN THEY LOOK AT
THESE NUMBERS IN INDIVIDUAL STATES AND THIS IS WHAT A LOT OF
REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS ARE FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW.
YOU LOOK AT THE STATES WHERE TRUMP DID VERY WELL IN NOVEMBER
AND HIS APPROVAL RATINGS ARE IN THE MID TO HIGH 80s, AND LET'S
NOT FORGET RICHARD NIXON NEVER DROPPED BELOW 50% UNTIL THE DAY
HE RESIGNED. IF MIKE PENCE OR JEFF FLAKE WERE
TO CHALLENGE HIM, PEOPLE WOULD BE LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE
SOMEBODY WHO ACTS CRAZY IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY IS A
HARD CORE CONSERVATIVE. >> BUT YOU'RE JUMPING PRETTY FAR
AHEAD IN TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ELECTION NEXT YEAR.
IF HE'S GOT 80% IN ALABAMA, IT'S NOT LIKE A DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO
WIN IN ALABAMA. THERE IS A SENATORIAL RACE IN
ALABAMA AND NO DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO WIN THAT NOW OR IN 2018.
THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. THE PLAIN POLITICAL ISSUE IS
DEMOCRATS NEED 24 SEATS TO TAKE THE HOUSE BACK IN 2018, AND THE
TABLE IS BEING SET PRETTY NICELY FOR HIM TO GET THAT NUMBER.
AND IF THEY GET THAT NUMBER, HE'S GOING TO BE IMPEACHED.
I'M SAYING THE HOUSE WILL IMPEACH HIM IF DEMOCRATS HAVE A
TEN-SEAT MAJORITY. IF HE DOESN'T RIGHT THE SHIP,
HE'S CLINTON IN 1998 AND 1999 WITH NO RECOVERY POSSIBLE.
CLINTON WAS DOING THAT AT A TIME OF EXPLOSIVE ECONOMIC GROWTH.
>> STEVE RATTNER, DESPITE THAT I'VE SEEN SOME REALLY IMPRESSIVE
DEMOCRATIC ADS OUT THERE, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS --
>> WE'LL SEE. >> NO, THEY'RE CLUELESS.
>> THAT AD GAVE ME A LOT OF HOPE YESTERDAY.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME GREAT CANDIDATES OUT THERE.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NATIONAL PARTY IS CLUELESS AND
THEY ARE JUST AS DISCONNECTED FROM WORKING CLASS AMERICANS AS
THEY'VE EVER BEEN. ARE THEY GOING TO BLOW THIS
ADVANTAGES THAT BEEN GIVEN TO THEM?
IS THERE CONCERN AMONG DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS AND
DEMOCRATIC DONORS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP STILL
DOESN'T GET IT? >> THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS
AMONG DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
REMEMBER, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS WE SAW IN HEALTH CARE AND
WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER ISSUES HAS ITS OWN SET OF DIVISIONS WITHIN
IT. YOU HAVE THE PROGRESSIVE WING
THAT HAS A SET OF THINGS THEY WANT AND ALMOST THE REMNANTS OF
THE CENTRIST WINGS, THEY'RE HIDING IN THE WOODS AND AFRAID
TO COME OUT BUT THEY'RE THERE. THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM THAT
HAVE COME OUT IN LAST FEW DAYS ARE A BUNCH OF SMALL BORE IDEAS
THAT THEY COULD BUILD A CONSENSUS AROUND BUT NOT A REAL
VISION OF WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. AND WE'LL GET TO THIS ON UM
GRAGS. IMMIGRATION IS ONE OF THOSE
ISSUES. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE A HARDEE'S AD,
A BETTER DEAL. AND THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE,
THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. AND I'M GOING TO GET JUMPED BY
SAYING THIS BECAUSE I'M IN MANHATTAN.
>> NO, YOU'RE NOT. >> I'M NOT?
>> NO, YOU'RE NOT. >> THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS LOST
WHITE WORKING CLASS AMERICANS BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION.
THAT'S AN ISSUE. AND THERE'S SUCH A BLIND SPOT
THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, THEY REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT FOR
A LOT OF WORKING CLASS AMERICANS A FLOODOD OF IMMIGRANTS COMING
THE UNITED STATES MEANS NOT ON THEY LOSE THEIR JOBS BUT THEY'RE
SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW IT DEPRESSES THEIR WAGES.
SO WHEN THEY HEAR DONALD TRUMP SAY LET'S LESSEN THE NUMBER OF
IMMIGRANTS COMING TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WORKING CLASS
DEMOCRATS THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD FOR WAGES.
>> THEY HAVE NO COHERENCE TO THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
LOOK AT THAT NUMBER WITH WHITE WORKING CLASS AMERICANS, THE
PRESIDENT BEING UNDERWATER GIVES THE DEMOCRATS THAT OPPORTUNITY
BUT THERE'S NO COHERENCE TO THE AGENDA.
THEY HAVE A POLICY CHALLENGE, A MESSAGING CHALLENGE, A
GENERATIONAL CHALLENGE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THAT IS A A PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE BY HIRING AN
AGENCY TO REBRAND A PIZZA COMMERCIAL TO DEFINE THEIR
AGENDA. THEY NEED AN AGENDA AND THEY
NEED A GENERATION OF NEW LEADERS.
>> IF YOU GO BACK TO 2006, YOU'LL FIND PAUL KRUGMAN WRITING
IMMIGRATION AND LOW-SKILLED WORKERS THREATEN AMERICANS.
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS FIRMLY, UNILATERALLY,
UNQUESTIONABLY ON THE SIDE OF BRING US YOUR HUDDLED, TIRED
MASSES, WE'RE WANT ALL IMMIGRANTS AND THAT'S WHAT COST
THEM THE WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS.
>> AND WHAT WILL CONTINUE TO AND IT ALSO DOES DRIVE DOWN WAGES
FOR WORKING CLASS AMERICANS. >> WHERE I WANT TO PUSH BACK IS
THIS -- THE MODEL OF THE MID-TERM ELECTION IS 2010, THE
REPUBLICANS WIN 63 SEATS IN THE HOUSE AND IN 1994, THEY WON 52
SEATS IN THE HOUSE AND THEY WON THE SENATE.
SO HERE'S THE KEY. THERE WAS NO COULD HEERNS TO THE
REPUBLICAN AGENDA EITHER IN '94 OR 2010.
THOUGH CO HERED AROUND A COUPLE OF PRETTY SIMPLE MESSAGES AND IN
2010 THAT WAS OBAMA IS SPENDING US INTO THE SEWER AND IS
IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION. WHEN REPUBLICAN WIN, THEY GET
INTO THE HOUSE AND SUDDENLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO COHERENT
AGENDA, IT'S A NIGHTMARE, THEY CAN'T AGREE ON ANYTHING, THEY
SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN TEMPERATURE IT MAY BE BAD FOR
DEMOCRATS IN 2019 BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE A COHERENT AGENDA BUT
IF THEY CAN CO HERE AROUND A COUPLE SIMPLE ANTI-TRUMP
MESSAGES, ONE OF THEM BEING THE CLASSIC MESSAGE HE'S NOT GETTING
EVERYTHING DONE, HE'S FAILING EVERYBODY AND IS FAILING HIMSELF
OWN VOTERS, THAT CAN GET HIM TO ELECTION DAY.
>> DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS. >> KASIE HUNT, WE OFTEN TALK
ABOUT AND ASK QUESTIONS ESPECIALLY TO YOU ABOUT HOW
REPUBLICANS ARE NAVIGATING THIS PRESIDENCY.
WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM DEMOCRATS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL MOMENT OF
OPPORTUNITY THAT IS BEFORE THEM? >> Reporter: WELL, I WANT TO
PICK UM ON WHAT JOHN WAS WAS JU SAYING ABOUT DEMOCRATS AND THE
COMPARISONS TO THE TEA PARTY WAVE IN 2010.
BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD POINT, YES, WHERE THEIR MESSAGES WERE LEANED
UP BUT A REMINDER THAT A LOT OF THE CANDIDATES THAT GOT ELECTED
IN 2010 CAME TO WASHINGTON AND BECAME MASSIVE THORNS IN THE
SIDE OF REPUBLICAN LEADERS. THESE WERE NOT PEOPLE COME OUT
OF SOME GRAND REPUBLICAN PLAN TO TACK BACK GOVERNMENT.
MY INSTINCTS IS THAT MAY BE HAPPENING ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE
HERE, TOO. LOOK AT THE SHEER NUMBER OF
DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGERS. EPHS JUST LOOKING AT IT,
ACCORDING TO WITHIN ID THIS TIME DURING THE LAST ROUND OF
MID-TERM ELECTIONS, LRP 44 DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGERS.
SO IT'S COMPLETELY EXPLODED. BUT I THINK THE ANALYSIS THAT
DEMOCRATS ARE NOT POSITIONED WELL TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT
FROM A NATIONAL PARTY PR EXPECTATIVE IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
AND ONE QUESTION I'VE BEEN STARTING TO ASK CAN YOU IDENTIFY
WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE IN THAT IN TURN WILL GIVE YOU THE ANSWER AS
TO HOW TO FIX IT. AND IN THE POPULOUS WING PEOPLE
WILL SAY SHE LOST OF GOLDMAN SACHS.
>> I WASHI WORKED FOR GOLDMAN SACHS.
I'VE BEEN BEGGING TOO WORK FOR THEM FOR TEN YEARS.
>> I THINK THE QUESTION IS CAN THEY GET AWAY FROM IT?
>> GREAT POINT. >> JUST AS FAR AS ON THE GROUND,
MIKE, THERE'S ALSO AN IDEOLOGICAL PROBLEM WITH THE
DEMOCRATS. IF YOU RUN ANYWHERE IN THE SOUTH
FROM KENTUCKY DOWN TO SOUTH FLORIDA OVER TO MISSOURI AND
YOU'RE A. >> Chip: IT'S EASY TO SAY YOUR
FIRST VOTE WILL BE FROM -- IT'S THE SAME THING DEMOCRATS WERE
ABLE TO DEMOCRATS YOU'RE GOING TO GO HELP NEWT GINGRICH AND
DICK ARMEY. >> THE LARGER PROBLEM IS RULED
IN TWO THINGS, TIMIDITY AND ELITISM.
THEY'VE BEEN SO TIMID ABOUT TAKING ON THESE, USE LIKE
IMMIGRATION. EXPLAIN IMMIGRATION TO PEOPLE
AND WHEN YOU EXPLAIN IT, YOU SAY PEOPLE COMING IN ARE NOT TAKING
YOUR JOB, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOWER YOUR WAGES, AUTOMATION,
TECHNOLOGY, GLOBALISM, THOSE ARE YOUR ENEMIES.
AND THEY'RE YOUR ENEMIES BECAUSE WE'VE LET YOU DOWN.
WE'VE LET YOU SIT THERE IN THE MILL THAT WAS GOING TO LEAVE, IF
IT HASN'T LEFT ALREADY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE UNEMPLOYED
AND MACKING $LE. BUT THEY'RE SO TIMID ABOUT THESE
THINGS AND SO FRUSTRATED BY SPECIAL INTERESTS AND THEY'VE
BEEN DRAGGED TO THE LEFT MAINSTREAM OF THIS COUNTRY.
THERE'S NO MYSTERY AS TO WHY THEY'RE LOSING.
>> BUTS QUESTION IS

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