>> OKAY. LET ME READ FROM PEGGY NEWNAN
WHO WRITES HERE IS A CLICHE. IN TIMES OF STRESS AND FRACTURE
PEOPLE WANT A PRESIDENT WHO IS CALM IN THE STORM AND SPEAKS TO
THE NATION'S MORAL CONSCIOUS, RECALLS FIRST PRINCIPLES, EVOKES
WHAT UNITES US. MR. TRUMP DID NOT DO ANY OF
THAT. IF A LEADER IS GIFTED, HE COULD
SUCCEED IN SPEAKING TO THE NATION'S SOUL AND MOVING ITS
HEART BY ADDRESSING IT BRAIN. THIS KIND OF THING COMES FROM
LOVE OF THE COUNTRY, OUR PEOPLE, WHAT WE'VE BEEN.
IT STRUCK ME THIS WEEK AS HE SPOKE THAT HIS SPEECHES AND
STATEMENTS ARE LOVELESS. THE PUBLIC MR. TRUMP IS NOT
WITHOUT SENTIMENT AND OCCASIONAL SPENTMENT TALLTY.
THE DEEPER WELLS OF A BROADER LOVE SEEM NOT THERE TO DRAW
FROM. SEVEN MONTHS IN PEOPLE KNOW THEY
CAN LOOK TO HIM FOR A REACTION, BUT NOT FOR COMFORT,
INSPIRATION, OR HIGHER MEANING. AND JAMES PETER SON, I WONDER,
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WHO GO ON TELEVISION AND ANALYZE FOR A
LIVING CRYING AFTER HEARING THIS PRESIDENT SPEAK, WEEPING OPENLY,
DISTRESSED, DISTURBED, AFRAID THAT THEIR PRESIDENT IS SO
INADEQUATE. >> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
WEEK, IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK. I'M PARTICULARLY MOVED BY WHAT'S
GOING ON IN BARCELONA. I WAS THERE WITH MY FAMILY A FEW
WEEKS AGO. I WAS THERE WITH MY WIFE AND
DAUGHTER AND SON. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE SPACE.
THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THERE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
AND THE IDEA THAT HE WOULD RESPOND TO THAT WITH SOME
MYTHOLOGICAL THING ABOUT A GENERAL USING PIG'S BLOOD, THE
ISLAMAPHOBIC PIECE IS ONE THING, BUT THE ABSENCE OF ANY KIND OF
PRESIDENTIAL SENSE OF THE WORLD. WHEN YOU JUXTAPOSE THAT
TERRORIST ACTIVITY WITH CHARLOTTESVILLE, AND THE
PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE, REMEMBER, PEOPLE FEEL VULNERABLE IN THE
IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH. THEY LOOK TO LEADERSHIP TO EDIFY
THEM IN THAT MOMENT, AND THIS PRESIDENT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY
INCAPABLE OF DOING THAT. >> DONNY, THE GREAT PEGGY NEWNAN
WROTE ABOUT HIS IGNORANCE OF WHO WE HAVE BEEN, OF WHAT WE HAVE
BEEN. I WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY AN INCOMPLETE LIST.
HE HAS A COMPLETE IGNORANCE OF WHO WE ARE.
THIS IS -- THIS IS THE MOST SHORT-SIGHTED POLITICAL MOVE THE
MAN COULD MAKE. THIS IS NARROW CASTING IN A
COUNTRY THAT HAS OVER 300 MILLION PEOPLE.
THIS IS NARROW CASTING FOR EARLY GOP PRIMARIES.
THIS GETS YOU AT 34% IN APPROVAL POLLS.
WE'VE SEEN THE NARROW CASTING. WE'VE SEEN THE TARGETS.
WE'VE SEEN THE HATRED. IT'S SHOWN ITSELF IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE. BUT LOOK AT THE RESPONSE TO
CHARLOTTESVILLE. LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WENT
OUT. FILLED THE STREETS.
LINED THE STREETS. LIKE THIS MORNING IN BARCELONA,
PEOPLE FILLING THE STREETS, APPLAUDING, COMING OUT, SHOWING
THE STRENGTH. WE SAW THE STRENGTH OF A MOTHER
WHOSE OWN DAUGHTER WAS SLAIN BY WHITE SUPREMACISTS HTRED GET UP
AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT? I'VE LOST MY DAUGHTER, BUT IF IT
BRINGS MORE ATTENTION TO THIS CAUSE, SO BE IT.
WE'VE SEEN THIS SORT OF HATRED IN CHARLESTON.
WHAT DID THAT BRING UP? THAT BROUGHT OUT FOR ME, I DON'T
KNOW THAT I'VE EVER BEEN AS MOVED OUTSIDE OF A CHURCH
SERVICE AS I WAS BY THE PEOPLE OF CHARLESTON WHO SHOWED TRUE
LOVE, SHOWED TRUE POWER, SHOWED TRUE COMPASSION.
>> FORGIVENESS. >> SHOWED FORGIVENESS.
I FORGIVE YOU. DONALD TRUMP IS SO DISCONNECTED
FROM THAT COUNTRY. HE WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER
ELECTION. EVER.
HE'S NARROW CASTING, AND THAT'S THE POLITICAL INSANITY OF THIS
AS WELL. >> JOE, YOU TALK ABOUT HUMANITY.
I LOVE THE WORDS. IT'S WHO WE ARE.
WE AS A COUNTRY ARE DECENT PEOPLE AND ALL CREATED EQUAL.
DONALD TRUMP IS NOT A DECENT MAN.
NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT. AND THE GOOD THINGS ARE THE LAST
FEW DAYS, YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THE BIG PEEL.
YOU SAW CORKER. HE USED THE WORD STABILITY.
HE COULD HAVE PUT MENTAL STABILITY IN FRONT OF IT.
THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT. YOU SEE THE REPUBLICANS AND THE
RIGHT WING MEDIA WITH JAMES MURDOCH.
YOU SEE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. >> AND BY THE WAY, NOT JUST
JAMES MURDOCH. OBVIOUSLY POWERFUL, BUT ALSO YOU
SEE ON TWITTER FEED, SOME OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVE VOICES ON THE
RIGHT COMING OUT EVERY DAY GOING NO, NO, NO, NO, THIS IS NOT
CONSERVATISM. THIS IS TRUMPISM.
>> THE PILL IS CONSERVATIVES, BUSINESS REPUBLICANS STARTING TO
PEEL, AND T TIME FOR PEOPLE TO CHOOSE SIDES.
IT'S TIME -- GARY COHN IS A DECENT MAN.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME FRIENDS WHO PRIVATELY IS UPSET.
NO. ONCE YOU STAND NEXT TO THIS MAN
NOW, YOU'RE STANDING NEXT TO A MAN THAT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR
FORM ENDORSED THE KLAN AND NAZI. THAT'S ON HIS LAPEL PIN.
IT DOESN'T GO AWAY. I UNDERSTAND THE GENERALS WHO
WILL NOT LEAVE. THEY HAVE A RATIONALE, WE GOT TO
KEEP THIS -- >> KEEP THE WORLD SAFE.
>> IF YOU'RE STEVE MNUCHIN, A JEW --
>> HOW ABOUT PEOPLE STANDING NEXT TO HIM?
>> YOU ARE LITERALLY AND
FIGURATIVELY, THE PEEL HAS TO HAPPEN.
THIS IS A MAN WHO IS ILL. IT'S ALMOST PATHETIC THE WAY
HE'S BEHAVING NOW. HE'S ILL, AND THE PEEL HAS TO
CONTINUE. >> BUT THERE'S BEEN NO PEEL IN
THE WHITE HOUSE. NICOLE WALLACE CAME ON THE SHOW
ON WEDNESDAY AND SAID IF YOU DON'T RESIGN THIS MORNING,
YOU'LL BE FOREVER TAINTED BY WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID
YESTERDAY. NOBODY HAS LEFT YET.
THIS IS A QUOTE FROM BOB CORKER. THIS IS A REPUBLICAN FROM
TENNESSEE, QUOTE, THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT DEMONSTRATED THAT HE
UNDERSTANDS WHAT HAS MADE THIS NATION GREAT.
AND WHAT IT IS TODAY. EFFECTIVELY SAYING PRESIDENT
TRUMP DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE COUNTRY OVER WHICH HE PRESIDES.
>> I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A TOUGH WEEK FOR EVERYONE, I GUESS.
BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF I AGREE WEE WITH YOU GUYS.
I THINK WHAT HAS MADE THIS WEEK REMARKABLE IS THAT TRUMP IS AR
TICKULATED WHAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY IN SORT OF UGLY
UNDERBELLY OF OUR NATION. WE ARE AND HAVE HAD A FAIRLY
NASTY PAST WHEN IT COME TO RACE RELATIONS.
AND WHAT HE'S DONE IS HE'S ESSENTIALLY TAKEN WHAT HAS BEEN
A DOG WHISTLE AND HE'S SHOUTED IT OUT.
AND THIS IS WHY IT'S SO APPALLING TO US.
FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT I CAN REMEMBER, FOR THE FIRSTFIRST TIU
HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS ACTUALLY
ARTICULATING A SUB TEXT. THIS IS THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY ON
STEROIDS. T NOT JUST ABOUT RACE.
IT'S ABOUT RELIGION TOO. WATCHING THE VIDEO OF THOSE
NAZIS WALKING THROUGH THE STREETS OF CHARLOTTESVILLE
CHANTING "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US "WAS REALLY DIFFICULT.
FOR A PRESIDENT WHO HAS A SON AND DAUGHTER WHO ARE ORTHODOX
JEWS, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE CAN STAND THERE AND SAY THERE ARE
SOME GOOD PEOPLE. THAT'S HIS FAMILY.
THAT'S HIS FAMILY. >> ANDREA MITCHEL, I KNOW YOU'VE
COVERED FOREIGN POLICY AND POLITICS FOR DECADES, AND I JUST
HAVE TO ASK YOU. THAT PRESS CONFERENCE, STEVE
MNUCHIN, ELAINE CHAO, GARY COHN, THEY'RE STANDING WITH THE
PRESIDENT, STANDING BY HIS SIDE AS ALL OF THIS CAME OUT OF HIS
MOUTH, AND I JUST -- AT THIS POINT -- WHAT'S THE DECISION?
IS THE DECISION TO STEP UP, DOO SOMETHING HARD, TO INFLUENCE
THIS PRESIDENCY? OR BECOME COMPLICIT?
OR IS THAT TOO STARK A CHOICE? >> I GUESS EVERYONE HAS TO MAKE
THEIR OWN MORAL CHOICE. YOU COULD NOT DO IT.
I KNOW I COULD NOT DO IT. >> THERE'S NO WAY.
>> BUT THEY HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE BASED ON WHAT THEY
BELIEVE IS THE GREATEST GOOD. I UNDERSTAND WHY JOHN KELLY IS
THERE. I REALLY DO, AND I UNDERSTAND
FOR SURE WHY MATTIS AND THE JOINT CHIEFS.
LOOK AT THE WAY THE JOINT CHIEFS ALL SPOKE OUT, AND THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE JOINT CHIEF IN BEIJING, JOE DUNFORD ON HIS WAY BACK FROM
A TOUGH TRIP IN ASIA AND HEADING INTO THE JOINT MILITARY
EXERCISES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO START THIS WEEKEND AND MONDAY.
AND THE THREAT FROM KIM JONG-UN THAT, OKAY, I'LL TAKE A PAUSE
AND I WON'T FIRE THAT MISSILE TOWARD GUAM AND PRECIPITATE WHAT
COULD BE A NUCLEAR CONFRONTATION IF THERE'S AN ESCALATION AND
RETALIATION DEPEND ON WHETHER YOU STEP DOWN AND DON'T DO THAT
EXERCISE? WHAT KIND OF EXERCISE?
ARE WE GOING TO PULL BACK? THESE ARE THE DECISIONS THESE
PEOPLE ARE MAKING. AND YOU HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE
MOMENT WHERE THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT ONLY NOT COME OUT ON CAMERA
AFTER BARCELONA BUT ENDS UP WITH THAT FALSE INTERNET RUMOR THAT
LIE ABOUT THE GENERAL. HOW DO YOU GET YOUR HEAD AROUND
THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO IN
THAT SITUATION. BUT I KNOW THERE'S A MIX OF
AMBITION AND PATRIOTISM AND DUTY AND FEAR THAT MAY BE ON THE
DOMESTIC SIDE AMONG WHITE HOUSE STAFF.
BUT I GIVE THE MILITARY A TOTAL PASS.
I THINK THEY NEED TO STAND FIRM. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE STANDING RIGHT THERE.
>> I KNOW YOU ARE. >> IS ELAINE CHAO STILL STANDING
BY BOTH MEN? WHY?
>> WHEN ONE IS EMBRACING WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
>> AND TRASHING HER HUSBAND. I MEAN, TRASHING HER HUSBAND,
AND SHE STANDS THERE EVERY DAY WHILE DONALD TRUMP IS TRASHING
HER HUSBAND. HERE HE'S PREACHING MORAL
EQUIVALENCY WITH WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND NEO-NAZIS, AND
JUST STANDING THERE. >> ELAINE CHAO AND GARY COHN,
LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF YOURSELF STAND BIG THIS PRESIDENT.
IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? >> HE'S TALKING ABOUT JEWS AND
THE ADMINISTRATION THAT ARE SITTING BACK SAYING NOTHING.
LET ME TALK ABOUT MY PEOPLE. LET ME TALK ABOUT E HAVE BEEN A
I GREW UP IN A SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH THAT HAD TO MOVE BEYOND A
LOT OF THAT, THAT'S STILL FIGHTING TO MOVE BEYOND A LOT OF
THAT. FORGET ABOUT THE SOUTHERN
BAPTIST CHURCH. WHAT ABOUT EVANGELICALS?
WHAT ABOUT THE EVANGELICAL LEADERS SUPPORTING THIS MAN AND
ACROSS THE SOUTH AND ACROSS AMERICA THAT HEAR HIM MAKING
COMMON CAUSE WITH WHITE SUPREMACISTS, GETTING PRAISE
FROM DAVID DUKE? YOU HAVE THE STORY IN THE NEW
TESTAMENT OF THE GOOD SAMARITAN. YOU'VE GOT JESUS -- ONE OF THE
FIRST THINGS YOU READ, THE WORDS FROM JESUS'S MOUTH IN THE NEW
TESTAMENT, BLESSED ARE ARE THE PEACEMAKERS.
BLESSED ARE THE MEEK. BLESSED ARE THE POOR IN SPIRIT.
YOU CAN GO TO THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT A COUPLE OF CHAPTERS
LATER. JESUS SAYS YOU'VE HEARD IT SAID
LOVE YOUR FRIENDS AND HATE YOUR ENEMIES.
I SAY LOVE YOUR ENEMIES TOO. HE SAYS YOU KNOW HOW OFTEN YOU
HAVE TO FORGIVE? 70 TIMES 7.
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO KEEP FORGIVING FOREVER.
AND HE SAYS BLESSED ARE THE MERCIFUL, FOR THEY SHALL BE
SHOWN MERCY. I WANT TO KNOW WITH THE
FORCE, WHERE ARE THOSE LEADERS? WHY WON'T THEY SPEAK OUT?
BECAUSE THEY'RE SPEAKING FOR, IN MY OPINION, SOMETHING MUCH
BIGGER THAN A POLITICAL FACTION. THEY'RE SPEAKING FOR A CHURCH,
AND THEY'RE SPEAKING FOR THEIR FAITH, AND THEY HAVE BEEN QUIET.
>> OR AT LEAST THEY SHOULD BE. I'M IMPRESSED WITH YOUR BIBLICAL
KNOWLEDGE, JOE, BUT TRUMP IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
THE FOLKS WHO WANTED TO ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH TRUMP AND
TRUMPISM THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT.
WHETHER IT WAS TAX BREAKS OR GORSUCH.
THE SUPREME COURT WAS PIECE FOR EVANGELICALS.
THEY'LL SAY THAT'S A BIG ENOUGH WIN FOR THEM --
>> SO HE CAN EMBRACE KLANSMEN. >> EVEN IN THIS CONTEXT, THEY'LL
CHART IT UP AS A WIN, SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM
POLITICALLY. >> MIKE PENCE WOULD MAKE THE
SAME ONE. >> EXACTLY.
>> I'M TELLING YOU WHAT EVANGELICALS WOULD SAY.
>> DONALD TRUMP ISN'T EVEN CONSERVATIVE.
>> IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. YOU MAKE A BARGAIN SAYING THIS
IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET. WHO KNOWS WHAT TRUMP IS GOING TO
DO? >> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT.
OUR DEMOCRACY IS -- >> THEY HAVE TO LOOK TO THEIR
RELIGION AND GOD. THAT'S RIGHT.
TO MAKE A MORAL DECISION, BUT THE MORALITY OF THIS PRESIDENCY
IS VACANT. >> JOE, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT
CHARLESTON AND WHAT THE MOTHER OF HEATHER HEYER HAS BEEN DOING,
THAT'S GRACE, AND THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY NEEDS RIGHT NOW FROM
THE WHITE HOUSE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE NOT GETTING.
>> I WANT TO SAY THERE ARE PRIESTS AND PASTORS WHO ARE
SPOKEN UP STRONGLY THIS WEEK. HIS CLOSEST FRIEND, I THINK IN
THE EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY IS THE PRESIDENT OF LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
WHO CAMPAIGNED WITH THE PRESIDENT AND ENDORSED HIM EARLY
ON. HE TWEETED TWO DAYS AGO, HE
TWEETED FINALLY A LEADER IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
JOBS ARE TURNING. NORTH KOREA BACKING DOWN.
BOLD TRUTHFUL STATEMENT ABOUT CHARLOTTESVILLE TRAGEDY.
SO PROUD OF REAL DONALD TRUMP. >> THERE YOU GO, SAM.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT -- WELL, THEY DON'T EVEN GET 30
PIECES OF SILVER AND THEY'LL SELL THEIR SOULS.
>> YEAH. THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT, AND
POWER IS AN AMAZING MAGNET FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
IT FORCES THEM OR COMPELS THEM TO OVERLOOK MORAL BANKRUPTCY IN
CERTAIN CASES. I GUESS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT
THIS PAST WEEK, THERE ARE REASONS TO BE HEARTENED.
THERE'S BEEN ADMONISHING FROM CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS AND THE
CEOS OF CORPORATE AMERICA SERVING ON HIS COUNCILS.
THAT'S AN INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT.
BUT I FEAR, AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FEAR THAT WE ARE AT THIS
PLACE WHERE WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CRISIS OR LEGISLATIVE
BATTLE. WHEN CONGRESS COMES BACK IN
SEPTEMBER, THERE'S A HOST OF THINGS THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH
THAT ARE ALL MASSIVE, MASSIVE POLICY LIFTS.
WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT TO FUNDFUN. WE HAVE A DEBT CEILING CRISIS ON
THE HORIZON. YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF TAX
REFORM AND MAYBE AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
MY GUESS IS THAT AS SOON AS WE MOVE ONTO ANOTHER DRAMATIC
STORY, PERHAPS SOMETHING INTERNATIONAL WILL HAPPEN, THAT
WILL KIND OF PUT THIS IN THE REAR-VIEW MIRROR.
IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER THAT A WEEK AGO WE FELT LIKE WE WERE IN
A NUCLEAR EDGE WITH NORTH KOREA. WE HAVE ALMOST TOO GOOD A
METABOLISM FOR NEWS THESE DAYS. WE NEED TO STOP AND