IN FACT,
THERE HAS BEEN MORE THAN 20 INCHES OF RAIN REPORTED, 300,000
PEOPLE WERE LEFT WITHOUT POWER AT VARIOUS TIMES, AND MORE THAN
7000 PEOPLE WERE EVACUATED AND FORCED TO STAY AT VARIOUS
SHELTERS, INCLUDING THE BROWN CONVENTION CENTER ON MONDAY
NIGHT.
I'M SORRY, THE GEORGE R. BROWN CONVENTION CENTER.
THE
CAPACITY OF THAT CONVENTION CENTER IS ABOUT 5000, BUT THERE
WERE VARYING REPORTS INDICATING THAT THERE WERE BETWEEN 7000 OR
11,000 PEOPLE ATTEMPTING TO FIND SHELTER THERE.
THE SITUATION IS
DIRE, LET'S GO TO GRAPHIC 27, ONE INDIVIDUAL SAYS IT'S HELL,
HE ALSO SAYS ALL MY STUFF IS DAMAGED, I HAVE NO CLOTHES, NO
SHOES, NO NOTHING.
PEOPLE ARE DESPERATE TO FIND SHELTER, AND
UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS VERY LITTLE ROOM TO HOUSE THESE
INDIVIDUALS AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
AS A RESULT, THERE HAVE BEEN
SOME PUBLIC FIGURES WHO HAVE FACED CRITICISM FOR WHAT
APPEARED TO BE THEM CLOSING THE DOORS ON THE RESIDENTS OF
HOUSTON.
JOEL OSTEEN, WHO IS A VERY WELL-KNOWN PROSPERITY
GOSPEL PREACHER, ORIGINALLY SHUT HIS DOORS TO RESIDENTS OF
HOUSTON -- HE LIVES IN THE AREA AS WELL -- HOWEVER AFTER
CRITICISM IT APPEARS THAT HE OPENED THE DOORS TO HIS GIGANTIC
CHURCH, WHICH CAN HOUSE 16,800 PEOPLE, AND IS NOW TAKING CARE
OF THEM --
I'M GOING TO BE AS CLEAR AS I CAN ON THE STORY -- THERE IS NOT
A LOT OF CLARITY ON WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
JOEL OSTEEN IS
CLAIMING THAT IT WAS IN AN AREA THAT HAD A FLOOD WARNING, HE
CLAIMED THE CHURCH WAS NOT FLOODED ITSELF BUT THE PARKING
GARAGE WAS FLOODED, PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE AREA SAID THAT'S
NOT TRUE, THEY SHARED PICTURES ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SAID THERE
ARE CARS DRIVING IN THIS AREA, THERE IS NO FLOODING, THE CHURCH
IS FINE.
EVEN SNOPES LOOKED INTO IT AND SAID THAT THE RESULTS OF
THE STORY ARE MIXED.
IT'S HARD TO ASSESS THE SITUATION, BUT
WHAT I WILL SAY IS IF I PUT MYSELF IN HIS SHOES, AND I HAVE
VERY LITTLE LOVE FOR HIM, IF I PUT MYSELF IN HIS SHOES AND I
HAD A MEGA CHURCH THAT USED TO BE A STADIUM AND THERE WAS ANY
POTENTIAL OF FLOODING OR HARM, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T TAKE THAT RISK
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO RISK ANYONE'S LIFE.
THAT'S JUST WHERE
I'M AT.
BUT HERE'S THE THING, VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE CITY OF
HOUSTON IS FLOODED.
THE PEOPLE SEEKING REFUGE ARE SEEKING
REFUGE FROM TERRIBLE FLOODING, AND IF THEY GO TO SOME FLOODING,
OR PERHAPS A PLACE WHERE THERE ARE SERVICES, THAT IS AN
IMPROVEMENT OVER WHERE THEY ARE LEAVING.
SO I THINK THE FACT
THAT HE DIDN'T OPEN IT UP AS A SHELTER TO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE
-- SHELTER IS A FUNNY WORD TOO, BECAUSE THAT CHURCH IS A 16,000
CAPACITY TAX SHELTER, RIGHT?
THEY ARE SUBSIDIZED.
THEY ARE.
AND HE WHO GETS SHELTER FROM OUR GOVERNMENT DIDN'T GIVE
SHELTER AT A TIME WHERE THE RISK -- I UNDERSTAND IT, I UNDERSTAND
WHERE YOU AS JOEL OSTEEN WOULD BE RELUCTANT --
HESITANT.
HESITANT IS A BETTER WORD.
BUT THIS IS A DISASTER, AND HE IS A MINISTER.
AND HE'S AN INCREDIBLY WEALTHY MINISTER, HE LIVES IN A $10
MILLION MANSION.
HAVE THEM OVER THERE.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF HE WAS THE
POOREST MINISTER IN THE WORLD BUT HAD A 16,000 SEATS ACTUARY
THAT HAD PEOPLE TO COME IN THERE AND THERE WAS A RISK OF FLOODING
-- THERE'S FLOODING EVERYWHERE.
IT DOESN'T RING TRUE TO ME.
I
DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT JOEL OSTEEN, BUT IT LOOKS TERRIBLE TO
ME.
IT DOES LOOK TERRIBLE.
TO BE FAIR, IN 2005 HE DID OPEN HIS
CHURCH TO VICTIMS OF HURRICANE KATRINA.
IN THE PAST HE HAS
HELPED PEOPLE, AND IN A BIG WAY.
I FEEL LIKE WITH THIS STORY IT'S
KIND OF HARD TO TELL WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON, AND I FEEL BAD
CRITICIZING HIM, BECAUSE AGAIN ANYTIME WE DO A STORY I WANT TO
PUT MYSELF IN THE SHOES OF THE PERSON I'M ABOUT TO CRITICIZE
AND THINK ABOUT WHAT I WOULD DO.
I DON'T HAVE HARD EVIDENCE
INDICATING IT WAS EITHER COMPLETELY FLOODED, A LITTLE
FLOODED, NO THREAT OF FLOODING WHATSOEVER -- I HATE THIS STORY
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
SNOPES DOESN'T KNOW, THERE IS NO
ARTICLE THAT'S EVEN CLEAR ON IT.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, DO
YOU RISK PEOPLE'S LIVES, POTENTIALLY, OR DO YOU OPEN YOUR
DOORS AND SHELTER THEM ANYWAY?
YOU OPEN YOUR DOORS AND YOU SHELTER THEM ANYWAY.
HE'S DOING THAT NOW.
AND MOST MINISTERS AND PASTORS AND MEN AND WOMEN OF THE CLOTH
THERE ARE DOING IT.
HE MAY HAVE DONE IT IN KATRINA, HE MAY HAVE
DONE MANY, MANY THINGS THAT MAKE HIM A WORTHWHILE CITIZEN.
HE MADE A BAD CALL HERE.
THERE WAS WATER, THEN THERE WASN'T, THEN THERE WAS, THEN
THERE WASN'T -- THE THOUGHT I HAD WHEN I SAW THIS WAS AGAIN IT
GOES BACK TO THE POLICIES AND ALSO SUPPORT FROM YOUR
GOVERNMENT THAT YOU FUND -- MANY PEOPLE, MOSTLY CONSERVATIVES,
WILL SAY WE'VE GOT TO STOP HANDING OUT ALL THIS MONEY TO
THESE GIMME GIMME PEOPLE AND LET CHURCHES AND CHARITIES HELP.
CHURCHES AND CHARITIES DON'T ALWAYS HELP, SOMETIMES THEY DO,
SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. THIS TIME WHEN THEY DON'T, FOR WHATEVER
REASON, HE WASN'T ABLE TO HELP OR WASN'T WILLING TO HELP,
THAT'S WHAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR GOVERNMENT THAT YOU ACTUALLY PAY
FOR DO THIS.
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