´Cause I think there´s this issue now
is the Democratic Party sort of hoping for, you know,
something to fall from the heavens to fix this
and not focusing enough on being a strong party.
Do you think the focus needs to be on the mid-terms,
or do you think that is a lost cause?
-Not -- Oh. We only have to flip 24 of the Republican seats.
There´s 435 seats in the House.
To get the House back, we only need 24.
In the Senate, we only need 3.
Are we that much of a loser group of people?
That we can´t get 3?
I mean -- Here. Let me give you the statistic.
Most people don´t realize this.
In the last seven presidential elections,
the Democrat has won the popular vote in six of them.
Six of the last seven.
The Republicans have only won the popular vote once
in the last 30 years, once since 1988.
The American people want the Democrat.
They want the liberal agenda.
They believe women should be paid the same as men.
They believe that there´s climate change.
They believe in stronger gun-control laws.
That´s our fellow Americans. And yet we hold no power!
-And you point this out in your show, that Donald Trump --
You need everybody to admit --
That´s the first step, is that Donald Trump outsmarted us.
-You have to say, "Donald Trump outsmarted us all,"
and then deal with the throw-up that´s in your mouth.
-Yeah. But I think that´s fair to say.
-It´s the truth. -You have to give credit there.
-I mean, generally, in a game, the person who wins the game
obviously was better at least that day.
-Yeah. -And he figured it out.
He was smart enough to --
to convince 8 million Obama voters to vote for him.
-Which is still -- yeah.
-He was smart enough to convince
the majority of white women to vote for him.
53% of white women voted for him.
Smart enough -- He was smart enough to know
where the state of Wisconsin was and go there.
-Go there. That´s a big deal. Yeah.
-And I think that he --
You know, he knew the right things to say
because he was a TV star.
He knew how to communicate on TV.
You keep it simple, you know?
You and I are gonna do eight minutes here.
We´re not gonna do a six-hour harangue
on the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
-No. We´ll keep it simple for TV.
-Right? -You obviously are very --
One of the things you´ve railed against
is the Republican --
or the Conservative belief system.
-Yes.
-But that is an actual belief system.
Do you prefer that to what Donald Trump is?
-I actually -- I actually do. People are worried that,
well, if we get rid of Trump, we´ll have Pence.
I say, no, don´t be worried about that.
Pence actually believes in things.
We can have the great debate with him.
He believes in gay conversion.
He believes gay people can be converted.
He believes that Adam and Eve
rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago.
But we can have that debate with him.
And because the majority of Americans
don´t want the Republicans in charge, we can win the debate
´cause most Americans will agree with us.
With Trump, he doesn´t -- He believes --
His belief system is Donald J. Trump.
That´s it. -Yeah.
-That´s all he believes in, is himself
and what kind of money he can make for himself and his family.
And that´s a much more dangerous,
I think, situation to be in.
You´ve got him out there in Bedminster, you know, last week.
Bedminster, New Jersey.
Threatening nuclear war from a golf club.
And I know you´ve made jokes about this here,
but it´s kind of like --
Seriously, anybody who lives in the New York area,
has any good idea ever come out of Bedminster, New Jersey?
-Yeah.
-Certainly not blowing up the world.
-No, you wouldn´t want that to come out of Bedminster.
Well, congratulations on the show.
And I know it´s going until October. Is that right?
-Yeah. Until the end of October.
I´m having a -- It´s a great --
I want people to come see this, ´cause it´s very --
something I can´t do in the movies.
It´s live. It´s in the room. It´s different every night.
And it´s a piece of theater
that I´ve written for the times in which we live.
And I welcome people to come.
And I made it part of my deal --
´cause you know how expensive Broadway is.
-Yeah, it´s very expensive.
-That the whole balcony is 29 bucks.
-Oh, that´s fantastic. -So people could come.
So it´s -- -Man of the people.
-If you don´t have 29 bucks, I´ll help you out!
-Michael Moore, everybody.
"The Terms of My Surrender" at the Belasco on Broadway.