Richard Painter: ‘This Is The Face Of Fascism In The U.S.’ | AM Joy

JUST MOMENTS AGO IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA, WHERE
WHITE NATIONALISTS ARE CLASHING AT EMANCIPATION PARK.
THESE ARE LIVE PICTURES NOW. THERE'S A LOT OF OBJECT
THROWING, APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO ONE OF OUR GUESTS, REVEREND
TRACY BLACKMON, THROWING FULL BOTTLES OF WATER.
EARLIER, THEY USED BRASS KNUCKLES AND BATS TO ATTACK
MEMBERS AND ANTI-FASCIST COMES OUT TO MARCH AGAINST THEM AND
BLACK LIVES MATTER ALL OF WHOM CONVERGED ON THE PARK AND
SPILLED INTO THE STREET OF NEARBY CORNER NEAR THE
UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA TO TRY TO COUNTER THIS WHAT THEY'RE
CALLING UNITE THE RIGHT RALLY. A VIOLENT RALLY.
JOINING ME NOW, SENIOR FELLOW AT THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN
RELATIONS, FORMER MEDIA CONSULTANT FOR BREITBART.COM.
AND FORMER CHIEF WHITE HOUSE LAWYER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH,
I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU. YOU'VE BEEN TWEETING ABOUT THIS
AND PRETTY STRONG WORDS FOR THOSE OUT THERE.
IF YOU COULD REITERATE THOSE FOR THE AUDIENCE.
>> WELL, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED IN GERMANY IN THE
EARLY 1930s. THIS IS THE FACE OF FASCISM IN
THE UNITED STATES. AND IT IS DIRECTLY THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION IN THE BHOUS.
I'VE BEEN A REPUBLICAN FOR 30 YEARS BUT WE ARE THE PARTY OF
ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND GEORGE W. BUSH, RONALD REAGAN.
WE ARE NOT THE PARTY OF FASCISM IN AMERICA AND WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE TO REJECT THIS. WE NEED TO DEMAND TODAY THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP FIRES SEBASTIAN GORCA, STEVE BANNON AND ALL THE
OTHER ALT RIGHT. THIS IS BREITBART NEWS WHAT
YOU'RE WATCHING ON THE STREETS OF CHARLOTTESVILLE AND AS
AREPUBLICAN, I WILL REMAIN A REPUBLICAN BUT NOT SUPPORT
FASCISM AND CALL FOR THE IMPEACHMENT IF HE DOES NOT FIRE
THE NEOFASCISTS IN HIS WHITE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY.
>> IS THERE ANY DISCOMFORT INSIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE WITH
THE PRESENCE OF SEBASTIAN GORCA LINKED TO A NAZI LINKED
ORGANIZATION FROM HUNGARY WITH THE PRESENCE OF STEVE BANNON WHO
RAN THE WEB SITE WHERE THE ALT RIGHT FOUND HIS HOME AND ANY
CHANCE THE PEOPLE HAVE JOB INSECURITY AT THIS POINT?
>> IF THEY HAVE ANY JOB INSECURITY, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH THAT WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY. I'VE COVERED LOT OF THESE
DIFFERENT EVENTS IN SCUFFLES AND SOME HAVE TURNED VIOLENT AND
THEY'RE UPSETTING AND DISTURBING WHEN THEY HAPPEN, BUT BUT LOOK.
JUST TO BE MILDLY FAIR TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND PRESIDENT TRUMP
FOR A MOMENT, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNFAIR TO BLAME
PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR STUFF LIKE THIS.
I MEAN, IF HE DOESN'T DENOUNCE THIS ON HIS TWITTER FEED WHILE
HE'S MORE THAN WILLING TO DENOUNCE A BOTCHED OR BLOODY
FACELIFT, THAN YEAH, CALL HIM FOR THAT BUT I THINK WAY MORE
FAIRGROUND IF YOU DENOUNCE THE ADMINISTRATION FOR ITS RACIST
CRACKDOWN ON VOTING RIGHTS OR THE INTENTION TO UPROOT AND KICK
OUT AS MANY IMMIGRANT FAMILIES AS THEY WANT TO.
AND BY THE WAY, THOSE ARE POLICIES THAT FAR PRE-DATED
TRUMPISM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT RICHARD AND MAX HAVE
TO SAY ABOUT THE THINGS LONG A PART OF THE REPUBLICAN DNA LONG
BEFORE PRESIDENT TRUMP CAME ABOUT AND STARTED SAYING VULGAR
WORDS. >> RICHARD?
>> I AM HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THAT.
NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THE REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATIONS
DO BUT WE HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN RHETORIC SIMILAR TO WHAT HAS
COME OUT OF THIS WHITE HOUSE. WE NEVER HAD ANYONE LIKE STEVE
BANNON OR SEBASTIAN GORCA IN THE BUSH WHITE HOUSE.
SOMEONE WHO DARED TO WEAR A NAZI MEDAL TO THE PRESIDENT'S
INAUGURATION. THAT IS DISGUSTING.
WE NEVER WOULD HAVE TOLERATED THAT AND WE CAN DISAGREE.
I DISAGREE WITH MY OWN PARTY ON SOME ISSUES, BUT WE NEVER WOULD
HAVE HAD ANY OF THIS IN THE BUSH WHITE HOUSE AND THESE PEOPLE
NEED TO BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY AND THIS IS BREITBART NEWS.
BREITBART NEWS IS A RACIST ORGANIZATION AND IT NEEDS TO
ACKNOWLEDGE AS SUCH, THEY SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN PREFERENTIAL ACCESS
TO THE WHITE HOUSE WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE NOW GETTING UNDER STEVE
BANNON AND ONCE AGAIN, BANNON NEEDS TO BE FIRED, SEBASTIAN
GORCA AND THE REST OF THE FASCISTS OR WE HAVE TO REMOVE
THIS PRESIDENT. OUR DEMOCRACY DEPENDS ON IT AND
TALKING ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH OR HILLARY CLINTON AND TRYING TO
COMPARE THIS, THAT IS A COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE
COMPARISON TO WHAT REALLY IS A SERIOUS THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY
IN 2017. >> IS IT UNFAIR TO TIE PRESIDENT
TRUMP? >> I DON'T THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP
IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR INSTIGAING THE EVENTS IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE BUT FAIR TO SAY HE'S CATERED TO THE ALT RIGHT
CROWD INCLUDING BY HIRING SOME OF THE CHAMPIONS IN THE WHITE
HOUSE, BY PURSUING POLICIES LIKE NOT ONLY THE CRACKDOWN ON
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND MASS DEPORTATIONS AND WANTS A
CRACKDOWN ON LEGAL IMMIGRATION WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT
REPUBLICANS GOING BACK TO RONALD REAGAN HAVE ALWAYS FAVORED AND
THEN TRUMP IS OPPOSED TO IT AND WANTS TO CHALLENGE AFFIRMATIVE
ACTION IN COURT AND NO QUESTION PURSUING POLICIES THAT ELICIT
SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE LIKE THIS EVEN THOUGH HE'S NOT DIRECTLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AND SOMEONE A LIFELONG AND I WAS A FOREIGN
POLICY ADVISOR TO MARCO RUBIO AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THOSE MEN IN
THE WHITE HOUSE EMPLOYING SOMEBODY TRAFFICKING SOME OF THE
HATRED AND CONSPIRACY MONITORING AND THIS IS NOT WHAT THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS STOOD FOR SINCE 1850s.
THIS IS FRINGE ELEMENTS OUT THERE ALL THE TIME BUT HE'S
BROUGHT THEM TO THE CENTER OF POWER.
>> BY THE WAY, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE SEEING GUNS IN THE HANDS
OF PEOPLE, YOU ARE. VIRGINIA IS AN OPEN CARRY STATE
AND SEEING MORE CLASHES. IS THIS LIVE OR TAPE?
THIS IS LIVE. THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE SEEING THESE CLASHES AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN
THE STREETS OF CHARLOTTESVILLE ARE ARMED.
YOU SEE PEOPLE CARRYING LONG GUNS.
THIS IS AN OPEN CARRY STATE, SO THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS
SITUATION, INCREDIBLE VIOLENCE. IT'S SHOCKING PERSONALLY HAVING
BEEN IN BALTIMORE THAT THE POLICE PRESENCE IS SO SCANT.
WHEN WE WERE IN BALTIMORE, THERE WERE TANKS ON THE STREETS OF
BALTIMORE. WE ARE SEEING A RATHER THIN
POLICE PRESENCE WHEN WE SEE ACTUAL VIOLENCE AND REPORTS
WE'VE GOTTEN ON THE GROUND, INCLUDING VIOLENCE AGAINST
CLERGY PEOPLE, MEMBERS OF THE CLERGY.
I WANT TO GO TO YOU ON THIS. BECAUSE THAT IS SORT OF THE
QUESTION. YOU HAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
BRING IN STARTING WITH SOUTHERN STRATEGY, THIS IDEA OF COOPTING
WHAT USED TO BE SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS WHO OBJECTED TO LYNDON
JOHNSON'S MOVES ON CIVIL RIGHTS OR OBJECTED TO THE IDEA OF
DESEGREGATION AND SORT OF COURTING THEM AND SAYING THERE'S
A SILENT MAJORITY THAT'S FOR LAW AND ORDER AND SOFTER LANGUAGE
TARGETING PEOPLE AND WE KNOW THERE'S A REACTION AGAINST THE
IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION ACT OF 1965 AND PULLED CERTAIN
ELEMENTS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY INTO THE GOP.
DID BREITBART DO SOMETHING SUBSTANTIALLY NEW IN TERMS OF
WHAT THAT ENTITY AND ENTITIES LIKE IT BROUGHT TO THE TABLE?
>> I THINK WHAT THEY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE WAS FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN THE 21st CENTURY IN A DIGITAL ERA, THEY BROUGHT TOGETHER A
CONGREGATING CENTRAL PLATFORM TO UNITE ALL OF THESE VOICES,
RACIST VOICES, AND CHANNEL THEM AND DIRECT THEM AND FOCUS THEM
IN ONE PLACE EVERY DAY THAT THEY COULD GO MULTIPLE TIMES AND A
DAY AND HAVE CONTENT WRITTEN SOLELY FOR THEM.
TO MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE IT WAS OKAY TO FEEL THE WAY THEY FEEL
AND TO INSPIRE THEM TO TAKE ACTION, TO INSPIRE THEM TO RALLY
BEHIND A CANDIDATE THAT THEY THOUGHT WAS ONE OF THEIR OWN WHO
USES CODED LANGUAGE, WHO BRINGS ON PEOPLE INSIDE HIS TEAM, WHO
SUBSCRIBED TO THEIR BELIEFS AND REALLY, THEY USE POLICY AS A
MECHANISM TO SPREAD THE VIRUS OF RACISM AND TARGETING MINORITIES
AND IMMIGRANTS AND LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR VOLATILE
SITUATIONS LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN AND THIS SECOND, PRESIDENT TRUMP
HAS YET TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS, EVERY SECOND THAT GOES BY THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SILENT AND IT'S NOT LIKE HE'S TOO BUSY.
HE'S ON VACATION GOLFING, TWEETING.
THERE'S NO REASON WHY AFTER WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT THAT THE
WHITE HOUSE WOULD BE SILENT IF NOT FOR THE FACT THEY'RE SITTING
THERE LETTING THIS HAPPEN. THE LONGER THEY GO SILENT, THE
MORE COMPLICIT THEY ARE. >> TO THAT POINT, WHEN THE
FERGUSON UPRISING TOOK PLACE AND AGAIN, WATER CANNONS AND LOTS OF
ARRESTS INCLUDING OF JOURNALISTS, PRESIDENT OBAMA WHO
WAS AT THE TIME, IT WAS SUMMER. HE WAS ON VACATION IN MARTHA'S
VIN YARD, HAD TO COME TO A CAMERA AND SAY SOMETHING.
THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS YET TO SAY
ANYTHING WHEN THERE IS LITERAL VIOLENCE IN THE STREETS OF AN
AMERICAN CITY, ISN'T IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES IS SUPPORTING AT MIN
MINIMUM, THE ALT RIGHT WORKING FOR HIM IN THE WEST WING?
>> I'M NOT SURE IF SUB ORNING IS RIGHT BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF HE
WOULD COME OUT TO DENOUNCE AND DIDN'T THREATEN VENEZUELA WITH
POTENTIAL MILITARY ACTION. >> BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER OF
BEING NICE THOUGH. WHEN ANY KIND OF VIOLENCE --
>> I AGREE WITH YOU. >> IT'S WHAT A PRESIDENT
NORMALLY DOES. >> I AGREE WITH YOU 100% ON
THAT. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES SHOULD DO THAT, SO THE RULE BOOK GOES OUT THE WINDOW
WITH DONALD TRUMP. BUT MY CO-PANELIST RIGHT NOW
JUST SAYING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP NEEDS TO SACK GORCA AND BANNON.
I WONDER WHAT MR. BOOT OR MR. BARDELA THINKS ABOUT JEFF
SESSIONS? ARE THEY SAYING THAT WITH THOSE
PEOPLE NEED TO BE CLEARED OUT OF THE ADMINISTRATION, JEFF
SESSIONS NEEDS TO BE TOO? >> A FAIR POINT.
>> TAKE GORCA OUT OF IT. >> IT'S AN UNUSUAL CASE AND I AM
NO FAN OF JEFF SESSIONS BUT REMEMBER, IF HE IS FORCED OUT OF
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S SEAT, DONALD TRUMP HAS THE POTENTIAL
TO APPOINT SOMEBODY WHO WILL FIRE BOB MUELLER SO ALL THINGS
CONSIDERED, I THINK MOST DEMOCRATS AND MOST REPUBLICANS
AT THIS POINT THINK THAT SESSIONS NEEDS TO STAY WHERE HE
IS BUT I STILL DISAGREE WITH HIS POLICIES.
CLEARLY, SOMEBODY WHO'S EMBRACED THIS POPULIST NATIONALIST AGENDA
WHICH IS TRUE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS.
>> AND HAS DONE FOR A VERY LONG TIME WAY BEFORE DONALD TRUMP WAS
EVEN ON THE BANDWAGO

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