PLAIN ENGLISH, FOLLOW THE MONEY OR THE RUBLES.
THAT LINE HAS BECOME PART OF THE LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY.
AN OLD HITCHCOCK MOVIES THEY USED TO TALK ABOUT THE McGUFFIN.
WHAT IS THE THING THIS PRESIDENT IS SO DESPERATE TO HIDE HE MIGHT
HAVE GAMBLED HIS PRESIDENCY ON IT?
THAT'S THE QUESTION. WHAT ARE THE LENGTHS HE WILL GO
TO KEEP ROBERT MUELLER FROM FINDING IT.
>> ARE YOU ASKING ME OR CAN YOU TELL ME?
>> IT'S THE UNKNOWN THING ABOUT THIS.
IT'S THE UNKNOWABLE THING FROM THE START.
AS A NEW YORK LAWYER I KNOW SAID TO ME TODAY, THIS IS THE
BEGINNING OF THE END. THE IMPANELLING OF THIS GRAND
JURY OR THE END OF THE BEGINNING.
MAYBE ROBERT MUELLER HAS A GRAND JURY AND WILL START PICKING
PEOPLE OFF ONE BY ONE. >> ONE, THE McGUFFEN IS SOME
ELICIT ACTIVITY RELATED TO THE ELECTION.
TWO, IT'S SOME UNRELATED FINANCIAL ISSUE.
THREE IT'S THAT DONALD TRUMP IS AN UNUSUAL MAN.
HE SAID SO HIMSELF WITH GREAT DEAL OF FEELINGS ABOUT THE LOSS
OF THE POPULAR VOTE IN THE 2016 ELECTION AND A GREAT DEAL OF
RESPONSES THAT HE VIEWS AS THE MISCONDUCT.
>> I THINK IT WILL BE MONEY. I THINK IT WILL BE MONEY.
THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE TAX RETURNS, OR IT'S SOMETHING --
WHEN HE WAS FACING BANKRUPTCY. BACK IN THE 1990s.
THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY BAILED HIM OUT.
THERE'S SOMETHING, IF IT IS MADE PUBLIC, WILL DIMINISH THE IDEA
THAT THIS GUY IS ONE OF THE GREAT TITANS IN THE INDUSTRY OF
ALL TIME. >> WELL, IT IS MONEY FOR SURE.
AND EVERY TIME THIS ISSUE COMES UP, DONALD IS ACTUALLY
TRANSPARENT ABOUT THIS. HE DOESN'T WANT MUELLER LOOKING
INTO HIS FAMILY BUSINESS AND ITS MONEY.
DONALD HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH RUSSIAN MONEY GOING BACK TO THE
LATE '80s. HIS FAMILY HAS HAD NUMEROUS
CONNECTION WITH THE RUSSIANS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE MAY BE
VERY WORRIED ABOUT IS THE TRUMP SOHO LAWSUIT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING
TO GET RID OF IN WHICH THE PROFITS FROM THIS HOTEL PROJECT
IN NEW YORK IN WHICH BOTH BANKS AND INVESTORS LOST MONEY, AND
YET IT HAD PROFITS, DISAPPEARED IN A DEAL DONALD SIGNED OFF ON.
HE WAS AN 18% OWNER OF THE PROJECT.
INTO AN ICELANDIC BANK THAT WAS UNDER THE THUMB OF ONE OF THE
RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS. THAT'S CLEARLY WHAT DONALD IS
REALLY WORRIED ABOUT HERE. AND A GRAND JURY WOULD BE VERY
USEFUL FOR INVESTIGATING THESE THINGS, GETTING DOCUMENTS AS
WELL AS LEVERAGING PEOPLE AND GETTING INFORMATION.
>> WE HAD SOME TRUMP SURROGATES ON EARLIER IN THE HOUR.
TRUMP FOLKS HAVE STRENUOUSLY DENIED ALL THIS.
THEY'VE SAID AN INVESTIGATION OR HUNT OF PAST ACTIVITIES BEFORE
NOVEMBER DOESN'T SEEM VERY FAIR BECAUSE THE FEDS COULD HAVE
LOOKED AT THAT ANY OTHER TIME. HAVING SAID THAT, LOOK AT THE
"NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTING. IT SEEMS MORE AND MORE RELEVANT.
A SENIOR OFFICIAL SAYING MR. MUELLER IS LOOKING AT MONEY
LAUNDERING. A SUSPICION THAT IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN DONE IN AN EFFORT TO HIDE THE PAYOFFS MOST LIKELY BY
ROUTING THEY WILL THROUGH OFFSHORE BANKING CENTERS.
HOW DOES THAT WORK AND WOULD THERE ULTIMATELY BE RECORDS TO
CATCH IT? >> THERE WOULD BE RECORDS.
AND WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT FEDERAL AGENCY WHICH IS MOSTLY
IRS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY GOOD AT FINDING NEEDLES OF MONEY IN HAY
STACKS OF GLOBAL COMMERCE. THE TRANSACTIONS DONALD HAS BEEN
INVOLVED WRGS I'M SURE HE'S WORRIED ABOUT, WILL END UP BEING
CONNECTED TO DEUTSCH BANK, THE BANK THAT WAS LAUNDERING MONEY
FOR THE RUSSIANS. THE PURCHASES OF PROPERTIES FROM
HIM AT HIGH PRICES. AND HOPEFULLY, MUELLER WILL GO
ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE 1980s, AND DONALD'S INEXPLICABLE DEEPEN
TANGLEMENT THAT I GO TO IN DEPTH, WITH A MAJOR
INTERNATIONAL DRUG TRAFFIC PER HE WENT TO BAT FOR.
>> SO FINAL THOUGHT, MORE MONEY, MORE PROBLEMS.
>> ONE OF THE LAWYER I TALKED TO COMES OUT OF THE CASES IN NEW
YORK CITY AND HE SAID DON'T KID YOURSELF.
IF HE HAS GRAND JURY NOW, HE IS LOOKING TO INDICT PEOPLE.
>> THAT'S WHAT GRAND JURIES OFTEN DO, NOT