FOX NEWS STORY IS TODAY TAKING THE CHANNEL TO COURT ALLEGING
THEY DEFAMED HIM IN A DELIBERATE EFFORT TO HELP DONALD TRUMP DENY
THAT RUSSIA WAS BEHIND THE ELECTION HACK.
ALL THESE ARE CLAIMS. HE SAYS HE EVIDENCE INCLUDING
TEXTS AND VOICE MAILS. FIRST THE CONCEPT.
DNC STAFFER WAS MURDERED IN JULY 2016.
POLICE SAY IT WAS LIKELY FROM A BOTCHED ROBBERY.
IN MAY FOX NEWS TOUTED A SUPPOSED BREAK IN THE CASE.
YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE A STORY THEY HAVE NOT PROVEN AND FELL APART
AFTER AIRING AND WHICH FOX HAS PARTIALLY RETRACTED.
>> A HUGE BOMBSHELL IN THE MURDER OF THIS DNC STAFFER.
>> AN INVESTIGATOR NOW SAYS SETH RICH WAS IN CONTACT WITH
WIKILEAKS BEFORE HE WAS MURDERED.
IF THAT WAS TRUE, AND WE DON'T KNOW YET, LOOKS LIKE RUSSIA
DIDN'T GIVE IT TO WIKILEAKS BUT SETH RICH, PERHAPS.
>> PERHAPS. FOX NEWS CLAIMING MAYBE RUSSIA
DIDN'T DO THE HACKING WHICH WOULD UNDERLINE THE FELONY AT
THE HEART OF MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE EVIDENCE FOR THAT BIZARRE CLAIM.
THIS LAWSUIT DRIVES ANOTHER NAIL IN THAT COFFIN BECAUSE THE
INVESTIGATOR WE'RE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM SAYS FOX NEWS MADE UP THE
FEW FALSE QUOTES THEY HAD FOR THE STORY ALLEGING WHEELER'S
REPUTATION DESTROYED BY DEFENDANT'S DECISION TO DEFAME
HIM. THAT'S NOT ALL.
WHEELER ALSO SAYS THE WHITE HOUSE WAS IN ON ALL THIS AND HE
HAS THE EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT. WHEELER SAYING A KEY VOLUNTARY
FOX INVESTIGATOR LEFT HIM A VOICE MAIL SAYING QUOTE, WE HAVE
THE FULL ATTENTION OF THE WHITE HOUSE ON THIS.
TOMORROW LET'S CLOSE THIS DEAL, WHATEVER WE'VE GOT TO DO.
AND TEXTING QUOTE, NOT TO ADD ANYMORE PRESSURE BUT THE
PRESIDENT JUST READ THE ARTICLE. HE WANTS THE ARTICLE OUT
IMMEDIATELY. IT'S NOW ALL OF UP TO YOU, END
QUOTE. WHEELER ARGUES THAT WAS TRUE AND
THE WHITE HOUSE WAS INVOLVED IN THE RETRACTED STORY.
IF THAT WAS NOT TRUE, IT WOULD HELP THE WHITE HOUSE BUT NOT FOX
NEWS. THAT'S ONE SIDE OF THE CASE.
FOX IS FIGHTING THIS CASE TODAY AND DENYING ALL OF THESE
ALLEGATIONS SAYING QUOTE, THE ACCUSATION THAT FOX NEWS.COM
PUBLISHED A STORY TO HELP DEFRAKT TR COVERAGE OF RUSSIA
COLLUSION IS ERRONEOUS. THE WHITE HOUSE SAID THIS TODAY.
>> DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW ABOUT THE STORY PRE-PUBLICATION AND
DID HE HAVE AN INFLUENCE? THE PRESIDENT HAD NO KNOWLEDGE
OF THE STORY AND IT'S UNTRUE THAT HE OR THE WHITE HOUSE
INVOLVEMENT IN THIS STORY. >> I WANT TO BE CLEAR AS WE
PROCEED. THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THIS STORY.
WE HEAR AT THE BEAT HAVE INVITED THE WHITE HOUSE ON THIS SHOW THE
E HAPPEN RATE AN OPEN INVITATION THIS WEEK.
TONIGHT WE HAVE ANOTHER SIDE OF THIS STORY.
ROROB WHEELER, THE PLAINTIFF IN THE CASE AND HIS ATTORNEY.
ROD, WHAT ARE YOU CLAIMING AND WHEN DID THIS ENTIRE INCIDENT
CHANGE FOR YOU BECAUSE INITIALLY YOU WERE VOLUNTARILY INVOLVED?
>> THAT'S RIGHT. I WAS ASKED TO GET INVOLVED THIS
CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION, A MURDER INVESTIGATION OF SETH
RICH. THAT'S WHY I GOT INVOLVED TO TRY
TO FIND OUT WHO KILLED THIS GUY. DURING THE COURSE OF MY
INVESTIGATION THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAME UP.
THERE WAS A LOT OF SUSPICIOUS INFORMATION I WAS LEARNING EVEN
THE DNC BEING INVOLVED TO SOME DEGREE.
I DON'T KNOW. I DECIDED TO TAKE ALL THE
INFORMATION I GOT AND GIVE IT TO POLICE DEPARTMENT, LIKE YOU
SHOULD DO IN ANY CASE AND GO FROM THERE.
HALF WAY THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION AND UP UNTIL THE
POINT IN WHICH THIS ARTICLE WAS RELEASED BY FOX, THERE WERE
THESE QUOTES IN THERE FROM ME SAYING I KNEW FOR A FACT THAT
SETH RICH HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH WIKILEAKS E-MAILING THEM
E-MAILS. >> LET'S PAUSE.
FOX NEWS REPORTING YOU AS THE SOURCE LINKING THE DNC STAFFER
TO THIS HACKING. YOU'RE SAYING AT TIME THAT WAS
FALSE. >> RIGHT.
THE REPORTER WROTE THAT STORY. I IMMEDIATELY CHALLENGED HER.
I SAID THAT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THIS ISN'T TRUE.
SHE SAID HER BOSS TOLD HER TO LEAVE THOSE QUOTES IN THERE.
I SAY WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE SOMETHING IN AN ARTICLE THAT YOU
KNOW IS NOT TRUE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
>> WHY DO YOU THINK THEY MADE UP QUOTES FROM YOU?
>> I KNOW FOR FACT THAT ED WHO WAS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS
FUNDING MY INVESTIGATION HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE FROM
THE WHITE HOUSE AND HE WAS THE ONE THATE THAT WAS PUSHING THIS
RUSSIAN HACKING NARRATIVE BY THE WAY I DIDN'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT
ABOUT. I WASN'T TRYING TO DEBUNK A
NARRATIVE OR SUPPORT A NARRATIVE.
I WAS TRYING TO FIND A MURDERER. ED EVEN ADMITTED HIMSELF.
I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE REPORTER, HERSELF, FROM FOX
NEWS, ADMITTED THAT SHE LIED AND PUT THOSE QUOTES IF THERE.
SHE ADMITTED THAT. AT THE SAME TIME TO THIS DAY
THEY HAVE NOT RETRACTED THAT. AS A RESULT OF THOSE QUOTES AND
HER STORY IT'S DONE DAMAGED MY CREDIBILITY AND MY INTEGRITY.
>> LET'S LOOK AT FOX NEWS WHEN YOU DID GO ON WITH HANNITY.
>> THERE WAS A FEDERAL INVESTIGATOR INVOLVED ON THE
INSIDE OF THE CASE, A PERSON THAT'S VERY CREDIBLE.
HE SAID HE LAID EYES ON THE COMPUTER AND HE LAID EYES ON THE
CASE FILE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT WITH THE
TOTALITY OF EVERYTHING I FOUND IN THIS CASE IT'S VERY
CONSISTENT FOR A PERSON WITH MY EXPERIENCE TO BEGIN TO THINK
WELL PERHAPS THERE WERE SOME E-MAIL COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN
SETH AND WIKILEAKS. >> IF YOU WERE SO CONCERNED AT
THE TIME, WHY DID YOU GO ON FOX NEWS AND MAKE THAT CLAIM?
>> I THINK THAT CLAIM WAS TRUE. THINK ABOUT IT.
IF THIS FBI INVESTIGATOR THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE FOX NEWS
PERSON. IF THAT PERSON WHAT THEY ARE
SAYING IS TRUE COUPLED WITH EVERYTHING I HAD BEEN FINDING IN
MY INVESTIGATION THEN ANY INVESTIGATOR WOULD SAY TO
THEMSELVES MAYBE HIS DEATH WAS A RESULT OF SOMETHING RELATED TO
HIS JOB. >> I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
YOU'RE SAYING AT THAT MOMENT YOU WERE TELLING THE TRUTH BECAUSE
YOU WERE LYING ON MISINFORMATION.
>> EXACTLY. >> WHEN DID YOU CHANGE YOUR
MIND? >> I NEVER CHANGED MY MIND.
I NEVER BACKTRACKED ANYTHING. I ACTUALLY NEVER MADE THOSE
STATEMENTS, THOSE QUOTES IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE DAY AFTER THAT STORY WAS RELEASED IS IMMEDIATELY I
CONFIRMED THAT REPORTER AND TOLD HER YOU NEED TO TAKE THESE
THINGS OUT OF ARTICLE. SHE NEVER DID THAT.
>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU PLAYED AND THE MAY 16th
ARTICLE IS IN THE CLIP HE'S TALKING ABOUT A SOURCE THAT
ALLEGEDLY EXISTED. WE DON'T KNOW IF THE SOURCE
EXISTED. THEY ATTRIBUTED EVERYTHING TO
ROD HAVING SEEN THE E-MAILS. AS HE SAID MALIA ZIMMERMAN AND
ED ADMITTED THESE QUOTES WEREN'T RIGHT.
ED SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THESE ARE RECORDS THAT YOU NEVER SAID
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO WIN AN AWARD FOR HAVING SAID THEM.
>> THE BEST LEGAL DEFAMATION POINT IS WHATEVER HAPPENED WE'RE
AT PLACE WHERE EVERYONE INCLUDING FOX NEWS SAID PART OF
THIS WAS WRONG. THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER PART OF
YOUR COMPLAINT WHICH IS THIS DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE AND TEXT
THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WAS PERSONALLNALLY INVOL
IN REVIEWING THIS STORY BEFORE IT WAS PUBLISHED AND PUTTING
THAT OUT. >> I LEARNED ABOUT THAT FROM ED.
I SAW THE E-MAILS AND HAVE SEEN THEM WHERE HE SAID THE PRESIDENT
HAS REVIEWED THE STORY. THIS IS THE STORY THAT THE
REPORTER WAS GOING TO RELEASE. THIS IS BEFORE THE STORY WAS
RELEASED. THIS IS WHAT HE SENT TO ME.
THE PRESIDENT HAS REVIEWED THIS STORY AND WANTS IT OUT THERE.
>> WOW. HOLD ON.
>> THERE COMES FROM ED. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU
GOT THAT TEXT? >> FIRST OF ALL, I'M THINKING
WHY WOULD THE PRESIDENT HAVE TO REVIEW A STORY PERTAINING TO THE
DEATH OF A GUY THIS D.C. WHY WOULD THE PRESIDENT BE
INVOLVD IN THIS? AT THAT POINT IT WAS OBVIOUS
THAT THEY LURED ME INTO THIS
INVESTIGATION. THEY MEANING FOX TO DEBUNK THE
RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION. ALL I WANT THEM TO DO IS CORRECT
THE RECORD. >> THIS IS WHY THIS IS A WEIRD
ONE. YOU HAVE SOME TEXTS HERE THAT
MAKE IT MORE THAN A THEORY. YOUR ARGUMENT IS THEY PULLED YOU
INTO USE YOU IN PART OF THIS INVESTIGATION AND FOX NEWS AND
THE WHITE HOUSE WERE ADVANCED PLANNING IT.
I WANT TO READ FROM ONE OF THE E-MAILS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR
COMPLAINT. ONE OF THE BIG CONCLUSIONS THAT
THE FOX VOLUNTEER SAID WE NEED TO DRAW FROM THIS IS THE
RUSSIANS DID NOT HACK OUR COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND STEAL
E-MAILS AND THERE WAS NO COLLUSION LIKE TRUMP WITH THE
RUSSIANS. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT AND WHAT
DID YOU THINK THEN IF YOU LEARN THAT WAS PART OF THE GOAL NOT
SOLVINSOLVING THE MURDER? >> WHY WOULD THEY HAVE ME
INVESTIGATING THIS THING AS A MURDER WHEN THEIR ALTERNATIVE
MOTIVE WAS TO DEBUNK A RUSSIAN HACKING NARRATIVE.
AS A RESULT OF THAT STORY IT KILLED MY CREDIBILITY.
MADE IT SEEM LIKE I WAS BACKTRACKING ON SOMETHING.
I NEVER BACKTRACKED BECAUSE I NEVER SAID THOSE QUOTES.
>> DOUGLAS, I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
THE ARGUMENTS JUST MADE WILL BE TESTED IN COURT FOR THEIR VE RO
VERACITY. YOU ALSO HAVE THESE EXPLOSIVE
ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THE WHITE HOUSE.
YOU DON'T NEED THOSE TO WIN YOUR CASE.
WHY ARE THEY THIS THERE IN. >> IT'S THE BACKDROP FOR WHY
THEY DEFAMED ROD. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE
YOU READ THE STATEMENT BY FOX. THEY SAY OUR CLAIMS ARE
ERRONEOUS BUT THEY GO ON THE SAME THEY ARE STILL
INVESTIGATING IT. HOW CAN THEY CONCLUDE THEY ARE
ERRONEOUS IF THEY ARE STILL GOING THROUGH AN INVESTIGATION
IS THIS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE DISCOVERY IN THIS CASE.
WE'LL SEE THE E-MAILS OR TEXTS OR VISITS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
WE'RE GOING TO GET EVEN MORE INFORMATION IN THIS CASE.
WHAT'S REALLY AMAZING, LAST POINT IS THAT THE GENERAL
COUNSEL OF 21st FOX WAS IN ENGLAND TRYING TO CONVINCE THE
REGULATORS IN ENGLAND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE AND
THEY MET THE BROADCASTING STANDARDS BY IMPLEMENTING NEW
POLICIES THE DAY BEFORE THIS ARTICLE CAME OUT.
>> ROD, FINAL QUESTION. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO
SAY TO PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO IS NAMED IN YOUR SUIT WITH REGARD
TO REVIEWING THIS ARTICLE AND NUMBER TWO, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO
SAY TO MR. RICH'S FAMILY? >> I'VE ALREADY EXPRESSED MY
APOLOGIES TO THE RICH FAMILY. THIS THING EVEN WENT IN THE
DIRECTION THAT IT DID. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY TO
THE PRESIDENT AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS TO BUTT OUT OF POLICE
INVESTIGATIONS AND LET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CONDUCT THEIR
OWN HOMICIDE INVESTIGATIONS. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE HERE
TODAY IF THE DNC WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED TO SOME DEGREE
WITH THIS INVESTIGATION WITH THE D.C. POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> HOW WAS THE DNC INVOLVED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?
>> I SAID BEFORE ON A FOX SHOW DURING MY INVESTIGATION WHEN I
FIRST REACHED OUT, DONNA BRAZILE WAS THE ONE CONTACTED THE RICH
FAMILY KNOWING WHY I WAS SNOOPING AROUND.
WHY WOULD DONNA BRAZILE BE INVOLVED IN THE SITUATION?
I THINK THE DNC NEED TO BUTT OUT AND ED AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT IF
PRESIDENT TRUMP EVEN KNEW ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS GOING ON,
BUT IF I WAS TO BASE IT OFF OF WHAT ED SAID, I WOULD SAY HE
DID. I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A