THAT MONEY IS HELD ALL OVER THE WORLD, IN BANKS AND AMERICA AND
ALL OVER. IN ORDER TO GET THAT HE'S HAD TO
INSTRUCT A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK ING FOR HIM.
LET'S SAY 10,000 PEOPLE WORKING FOR HIM, TO DO TERRIBLE THINGS,
TO ARREST, KIDNAP, TORTURE, AND KILL TO TAKE PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES
AWAY. AS A RESULT OF THE ACT HE CAN NO
LONGER GUARANTEE ABSOLUTE IMPUNITY BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN
WE'VE CREATED CONSEQUENCES IN THE WEST.
>> AMERICAN-BORN BUSINESSMAN BILL BROWDER IS A PUTIN
ADVERSARY WHO HAS EMERGED AS A SMALL BUT KEY PLAYER IN THE
RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. BROWDER WAS ONCE THE LARGEST
FOREIGN INVESTOR IN RUSSIA UNTIL, HE SAYS, HE AND HIS
ATTORNEY TRIED TO EXPOSE MASSIVE CORRUPTION AMONG PEOPLE LINKED
TO THE KREMLIN. THE BACKLASH WAS FIERCE.
BROWDER SAYS MEMBERS OF PUTIN'S INNER CIRCLE STOLE $230 MILLION
FROM HIS COMPANY AND SET HIM UP FOR TAX EVASION CHARGES.
BROWDER WAS A DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE 2012 MAGNITSKI ACT
WHICH IMPOSED SANCTION ON INDIVIDUAL RUSSIANS AND WAS THE
TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AT ONE NOW FAMOUS MEETING IN TRUMP TOWER.
JOINING ME NOW IS BILL BROWDER, FOUNDER AND CEO OF HERMITAGE
CAPITAL MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU. >> YOUR TESTIMONY GOT
OVERSHADOWED. GIVE US THE ENCAPSULATED VERSION
WHY YOU WENT TO WASHINGTON TO TESTIFY AND WHAT IT IS YOU THINK
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE PUTIN REGIME AND THE MAGNITSKY
>> MY LAWYER WAS MURDERED BY THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT IN 2009.
I EMBARKED ON THIS BIG PROJECT TO GET JUSTICE FOR HIM WHICH LED
TO THE PASSAGE OF THE MAGNITSKY ACT WHICH FREEZES ASSETS AND
BANS VISAS OF THOSE INVOLVED IN HIS MURDER AND DO SIMILAR TYPES
OF THINGS IN RUSSIA. AND VLADIMIR PUTIN BECAME
ENRAGED BY THIS WHOLE THING. THE REASON SOME OF HAD HIS MONEY
IS POTENTIALLY COMING FROM THE SAME CRIME THAT SERGEI MAGNITSKY
HE CAN POSED AND ALL THE MONEY IN THE WEST CANNING FROZEN.
HE RETALIATED BY BANNING THE ADOPTION OF RUSSIAN CHILDREN BY
AMERICAN FAMILIES. HE HELD A BIG LOBBYING CAMPAIGN
TO GET THE MAGNITSKY ACT REVEALED.
I WAS INVITED TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE AND WAS THERE TO TALK
WITH AMERICAN LOBBYISTS WORKING ON BEHALF OF VLADIMIR PUTIN NOT
ADMITTING THAT THEY WERE AND TRYING TO GET THIS IMPORTANT
PIECE OF HUMAN RIGHTS LEGISLATION REPEALED.
THE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE WAS SHOCKED BY MY TESTIMONY BECAUSE
PEOPLE DIDN'T EXPECT THAT THE EVIL OF PUTIN COULD BE SO
CLEARLY INFILTRATING WASHINGTON. >> WHEN YOU HEAR DONALD TRUMP
JR. MET WITH A LAWYER WHO HAS LOBBIED FOR THE OVERTURNING OF
THE THE MAGNITSKY ACT AND THEY TALKED ABOUT ADOPTIONS, WHAT DO
YOU HEAR WHEN YOU HEAR THAT SET OF FACTS?
>> THE FIRST THING MY REACTION IS THAT NOBODY -- THERE WASN'T A
SINGLE PERSON IN THE ROOM TALKING ABOUT ADOPTIONS.
IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME THESE PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN TRUMP TOWER
BECAUSE PUTIN HAS BEEN TRYING EVERY DIFFERENT TACTIC HE CAN TO
TRY TO EASE THESE SANCTIONS BECAUSE THESE SANCTIONS AFFECT
HIM MORE PERSONALLY BECAUSE HIS MONEY IS AT STAKE.
>> VLADIMIR PUTIN HIMSELF COULD BE SUBJECT TO MAGNITSKY
SANCTIONS? >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M
SAYING. HE'S ONE OF THE RICHESTMEN MEN
IN THE WORLD. HE HAS A LOT OF MONEY HELD IN
WESTERN BANKS, AMERICAN BANKS, AND HE RECEIVED MONEY FROM THE
CRY SERGEI MAGNITSKY EXPOSED AND UNDER THE WORDS OF THE MAGNITSKY
ACT THE PERSON WHO RECEIVES MONEY FROM THE CRIME CAN HAVE
THEIR MONEY FROZEN IN AMERICA. HE COULD HAVE IT FROZEN BY THE
MAGNITSKY ACT. HE HAS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE
FROZEN. >> I WANT YOUR REACTION TO THE
U.S. PRESIDENT, TO DONALD TRUMP ON THURSDAY IN NEW JERSEY AND HE
WAS ASKED ABOUT THE NEW SUITE OF SANCTIONS HE'S RELUCTANT LY
SIGNED IN RESPONSE TO RUSSIA'S INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016
ELECTION. TAKE A LISTEN.
>> MR. PRESIDENT, DO YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO THE RUSSIAN
PRESIDENT WITH WORKERS FROM OUR ENTITY?
>> NO, I WANT TO THANK HIM BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CUT DOWN
ON PAYROLL AND I'M VERY THANKFUL HE LET GO OF A LARGE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A SMALLER PAYROLL.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO GO BACK.
I APPRECIATE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO CUT OUR PAYROLL FOR THE
UNITED STATES. >> AS SOMEBODY TANGLED WITH THE
PUTIN REGIME AND WHOSE LAWYER WAS KILLED OR DIED IN CUSTODY IN
RUSSIA, WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THAT RESPONSE BY THE U.S.
PRESIDENT? >> BASICALLY VLADIMIR PUTIN
DOESN'T RESPOND TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TOUGH FORCE AND FOR
ANY KIND OF MESSAGE TO VLADIMIR PUTIN THAT HE CAN DO WHAT HE
WANS AND GET AWAY WITH IT IS NOT A GOOD MESSAGE TO BE SENDING.
I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TRUMP TO HAVE A STRONGER AND MORE
AGGRESSIVE REACTION TO WHAT PUTIN HAS DONE.
PERHAPS HE HAS SOME OTHER STRATEGY IN MIND THAT WE'LL SEE
PLAY OUT IN THE FUTURE. I DO UNDERSTAND HE'S TALKING
ABOUT OUR RESPONSE TO THAT ON SEPTEMBER 1st.
I WILL GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT ON THIS.
HE ONLY UNDERSTANDS A BOOT ON THE THROAT.
>> YOU TESTIFIED WHEN YOU WENT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, A COMPANY
BUILDING UP A FILE ON DONALD TRUMP, AN OPPOSITION RESEARCH
FILE, IS ALSO HIRE AS A CLIENT OF THE LAWYER WHO MET WITH
DONALD JUNIOR AT TRUMP TOWER AND WHO HAS BEEN LOBBYING FOR THE
REPEAL OF THE MAGNITSKY ACT. ARE YOU CONTENDING THAT RUSSIA
WAS ATTEMPTING TO HURT DONALD TRUMP IN THE ELECTION?
>> WELL, SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES.
THERE'S THE FUSION GPS DID A DONALD TRUMP DOSSIER AND FUSION
GPS DID AN ANTI-MAGNITSKY
DOSSIER. THE ONLY THING I CAN TESTIFY TO
AND I DID TESTIFY TO IS THAT AT THE SAME TIME AS FUSION GPS WAS
WORKING EFFECTIVELY FOR THE RUSSIANS AGAINST MAGNITSKY, THEY
WERE WORKING AGAINST THE RUSSIANS WITH THEIR TRUMP
DOSSIER. I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE TWO
THINGS GET MIXED UP. WHAT I CAN SAY FOR SURE FUSION
GPS WAS RECEIVING MONEY INDIRECT LIP FROM THE RUSSIANS AT THE
SAME TIME THEY WERE PREPARING THE DOSSIER.
>> ALL RIGHT. BILL BROWDER, WE APPRECIATE YOU
BEING HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHINING
LIGHT ON THIS SITUATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK